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Posted: 12/9/2009 7:08:42 PM EDT
Does anyone know what Winchester ZQ4369 is?  I know it is .40S&W 180 grain bonded JHP that looks like PDX1 but is sold in plain looking white boxes at a much lower price than PDX1.  Does anyone know more?

Is it a LE contract overrun or slightly out of specification? Is the prepended Z used by Winchester to indicate out of spec?

Has anyone shot this?
Link Posted: 12/10/2009 5:09:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2009 5:09:56 AM EDT by hotpig]
I will not stock any because I do not know 100% that the ammo is contract over run or out of spec. Popular rumor is that it is contract ammo but specs are a little different than RA40B or the PDX1.
Link Posted: 12/15/2009 11:07:49 PM EDT
The official FBI bonded load is Q4355. I wonder if ZQ4369 is actually part of that batch of Q4355 rejected in April of this year?
Link Posted: 12/16/2009 5:40:57 AM EDT
There was a thread in this forum about a batch of Z-series Winchester (9mm if I recall) that was being sold by an online vendor.  The bullets were clearly rejects; the hollow point was much shallower than what it should have been.  It was more of a dimple than a full cavity.  So I guess it is pretty much buyer beware on any ZQXXXX ammor.
Link Posted: 12/16/2009 7:57:06 AM EDT
I have some. Seems to fire fine. Performance IDK, but it looks ok. There was a bit more red sealant on the primers from what I could tell. If they are rejects, maybe that's why. All have uniform HP's all the same depth & look about as deep as other .40 HP I have.
Link Posted: 12/16/2009 4:51:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattja:
The official FBI bonded load is Q4355. I wonder if ZQ4369 is actually part of that batch of Q4355 rejected in April of this year?


Do you know why it was rejected?  I have not heard anything about this.
Link Posted: 12/18/2009 12:34:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Z_0:
Originally Posted By mattja:
The official FBI bonded load is Q4355. I wonder if ZQ4369 is actually part of that batch of Q4355 rejected in April of this year?


Do you know why it was rejected?  I have not heard anything about this.


It had profound accuracy problems.

That's all I heard (about the rejected Q4355 FBI batches.)
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