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Posted: 8/25/2023 6:44:02 PM EST
I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but I'll ask anyway since I want a Glock specific answer. What red dot recommendation can be made? I'm anticipating the g26 MOS arrival, so it will go on that.

My short list is the Trijican RMR or Leupold Delta Point from my research. I also see a lot of positives from the Sheild optics. My only experience with a pistol mounted red dot is a range-only g19 with a Swamp Fox something or other green dot.

I thought I wanted to get a Holosun SCS MOS for it, based soley on appearance, but I have read many unfavorable reviews on it.

What say you?
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:04:29 PM EST
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What's the gun's purpose?  CCW, HD, Range, Competition?  How much coin?  Answer that and then narrow the selection down.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:14:54 PM EST
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26 MOS?  I'd throw a Holosun SCS on it
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:20:31 PM EST
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Snag a used RMR off the EE if money is an issue. Ditch the MOS plate and get one from FCD or C&H.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:21:27 PM EST
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I own one Trijicon and two Holosuns. I’m planning on buying the G26 MOS as well.

I have the Trijicon RMR on my G19.5 and I’m going to use the same optic on the G26. I don’t know why but I have trouble with the Holosuns on my G43X and P365XL, but with the G19.5 RMR, I’m dead on.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:27:51 PM EST
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26 MOS?  I'd throw a Holosun SCS on it
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+1

Plates are for eating off of


I'd prefer a EPS Carry on a directly milled slide.  IIRC, EPS Carry width is 25.3mm on the 25.5mm G26 slide.  That perfect match would turn me on every time I used it

Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:43:13 PM EST
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Holosun SCS.

Anything else just get a regular slide and get it cut for whatever optic you want.

Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 7:48:08 PM EST
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For what purpose?

SD? Get an RMR or an EPS if you trust it. They are pretty new.

Range toy? DPP, SRO, 507Comp, or SCS. I personally hate the SCS because it's auto brightness only and the override is non-adjustable and temporary. It has the same downfalls as the fiber optic RMRs with light differential between target and shooter.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 8:01:32 PM EST
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Anything by Trijicon.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 8:20:09 PM EST
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I should have said- for EDC - concealed carry.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 1:31:55 AM EST
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+1 on the SCS.  I trialed mine on a .22 slide for a while before getting my carry 19x cut for MOS specifically to wear one.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 7:10:00 AM EST
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+1 on the SCS.  I trialed mine on a .22 slide for a while before getting my carry 19x cut for MOS specifically to wear one.
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I saw your picture in that holster thread- I do like how low that sits...
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:38:13 AM EST
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Trijicon is the gold standard. That being said, I am cheap and went with Swampfox Optics sights and have not had any issues with them. I use them on my EDC pistols without concern.

MOS plates is another touchy subject that can start arguments. I have been running the OEM MOS plates for years without any issues at all.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:47:56 AM EST
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I should have said- for EDC - concealed carry.
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From your short list...RMR.  As stated, it's the standard that everything is measured to.  Now decide on on dot size, auto or adjustable.  Then open or closed emitters.  With the release of the new closed emitters, you be able to snag a used RMR in the EE at a good price = $400.  
Stay away from fiber optic versions.  


Good alternatives are Holosun's 508Ts with the same footprint.  FCD's plate for sure.  




Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:57:03 AM EST
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I saw your picture in that holster thread- I do like how low that sits...
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Pretty much absolute cowitness with the irons, so it’s super quick and easy to use.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:19:55 AM EST
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I use an RMR, but I’m Trijicon’s whore..

I understand a lot of people like the offerings from Holosun, but I can’t get my head around Chineseum optics.

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Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:30:50 AM EST
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I use an RMR, but I’m Trijicon’s whore..

I understand a lot of people like the offerings from Holosun, but I can’t get my head around Chineseum optics.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284805/IMG_3700_jpeg-2932611.JPG
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But you're cool with Chinesium weaponlights?

Got it.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:35:08 AM EST
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Never mind
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:40:15 AM EST
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But you're cool with Chinesium weaponlights?

Got it.
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On the product info page for the TLR7 it says it's made in the USA with global components. That's about as good as you're gonna get with any weapon light.

Correction, it says assembled in the USA.

https://www.streamlight.com/docs/default-source/fact-sheet/316.pdf?sfvrsn=4558b9f0_80


Link Posted: 8/26/2023 12:28:29 PM EST
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Trijicon if you want the best.

Whatever else if you want to half ass it with some Chinese bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 1:16:48 PM EST
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Trijicon if you want the best.

Whatever else if you want to half ass it with some Chinese bullshit.
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I have to agree with this
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 1:45:54 PM EST
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For the RMR, I’m leaning toward a 3moa but undecided on auto or adjustable…

Expert Voice pricing shows $406 for the  RM01-C-700600 and $438 for the RM06-C-700672 adjustable.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 2:01:21 PM EST
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For the RMR, I'm leaning toward a 3moa but undecided on auto or adjustable

Expert Voice pricing shows $406 for the  RM01-C-700600 and $438 for the RM06-C-700672 adjustable.
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You want an adjustable one. Both mine are RM06.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 4:40:14 PM EST
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You want an adjustable one. Both mine are RM06.
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Adjustable is the way.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 5:38:48 PM EST
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Adjustable is the way.
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+1
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 7:37:34 PM EST
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Snag a used RMR off the EE if money is an issue. Ditch the MOS plate and get one from FCD or C&H.
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Link Posted: 8/26/2023 7:56:46 PM EST
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All of mine are the RM06 Type 2 3.25 adjustable.

I never use the brightness adjustment though, they stay on auto mode 100% of the time.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:24:25 PM EST
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From your short list...RMR.  As stated, it's the standard that everything is measured to.  Now decide on on dot size, auto or adjustable.  Then open or closed emitters.  With the release of the new closed emitters, you be able to snag a used RMR in the EE at a good price = $400.  
Stay away from fiber optic versions.  
https://i.imgur.com/mqwNQcD.jpg

Good alternatives are Holosun's 508Ts with the same footprint.  FCD's plate for sure.  
https://i.imgur.com/t3WyH6W.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ABqnxmZ.jpg

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Agree on the Holosun 508T.  I like them a lot more than the RMR, IMO the current RMR is an inferior product.  I plan to buy the next gen RMR-HD after they have been out for a few months.
I've got one on my VP9 and another 508T waiting on a Glock 45 to get back from Battlewerx.


Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:40:20 PM EST
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Trijicon is the only answer, top quality

Link Posted: 8/27/2023 12:04:24 AM EST
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Agree on the Holosun 508T.  I like them a lot more than the RMR, IMO the current RMR is an inferior product.  I plan to buy the next gen RMR-HD after they have been out for a few months.
I've got one on my VP9 and another 508T waiting on a Glock 45 to get back from Battlewerx.

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I was also on the fence about Chinese made optics...  How many things in our lives are made in China?  Lots if you really look.  
They passed Aaron Cowan's testing, so it's vetted (at least for me).  Holosun has a lot of features that Trijicon should have come up with (i.e. solar, MRS, colors, side loading battery).  They finally jumped on the bandwagon this year with enclosed and a top loading battery like the SROish that's duty rated.  The more options/players, means a cheaper cost for the rest of us.      

Link Posted: 8/27/2023 6:51:21 AM EST
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I was also on the fence about Chinese made optics...  How many things in our lives are made in China?  Lots if you really look.  
They passed Aaron Cowan's testing, so it's vetted (at least for me).  Holosun has a lot of features that Trijicon should have come up with (i.e. solar, MRS, colors, side loading battery).  They finally jumped on the bandwagon this year with enclosed and a top loading battery like the SROish that's duty rated.  The more options/players, means a cheaper cost for the rest of us.      

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Agree on the Holosun 508T.  I like them a lot more than the RMR, IMO the current RMR is an inferior product.  I plan to buy the next gen RMR-HD after they have been out for a few months.
I've got one on my VP9 and another 508T waiting on a Glock 45 to get back from Battlewerx.



I was also on the fence about Chinese made optics...  How many things in our lives are made in China?  Lots if you really look.  
They passed Aaron Cowan's testing, so it's vetted (at least for me).  Holosun has a lot of features that Trijicon should have come up with (i.e. solar, MRS, colors, side loading battery).  They finally jumped on the bandwagon this year with enclosed and a top loading battery like the SROish that's duty rated.  The more options/players, means a cheaper cost for the rest of us.      



My favorite part of Cowan testing Holosuns is when the lens goes flying out and he just keeps shooting like it didn’t happen.
Link Posted: 8/27/2023 9:44:43 PM EST
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I'm certainly no expert but I'm extremely pleased with my Holosun 507C with the green reticle.

I have them on  G19-5 and a G45.

They are really tough. I dropped the G45 on concrete . It hit hard but still works perfectly.

I have an astigmatism and red dots tend to look like a rose to my eye.
Link Posted: 8/27/2023 11:27:48 PM EST
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My favorite part of Cowan testing Holosuns is when the lens goes flying out and he just keeps shooting like it didn’t happen.
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I remember reading that he wasn’t testing the optic so it was never brought up.
Link Posted: 8/27/2023 11:29:27 PM EST
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I have holosuns and have been buying trijicons lately. If anything, having the rmr gives me peace of mind. I hate having doubt if something will work or not.
Link Posted: 8/28/2023 6:42:14 PM EST
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My favorite part of Cowan testing Holosuns is when the lens goes flying out and he just keeps shooting like it didn’t happen.
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To me that's exactly what you should do. Move your eyes to the irons and keep at it.

Eta
I say that but at the same time I would have to stop and be like oh yeah those basic sights are still there. Pistol optics have me spoiled
Link Posted: 8/28/2023 7:05:16 PM EST
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I'm certainly no expert but I'm extremely pleased with my Holosun 507C with the green reticle.

I have them on  G19-5 and a G45.

They are really tough. I dropped the G45 on concrete . It hit hard but still works perfectly.

I have an astigmatism and red dots tend to look like a rose to my eye.
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This is something I need to look into- I have really bad astigmatism. I have gotten away with not wearing glasses, and I’m 52, but I have an appointment for getting contacts next week…
Link Posted: 8/30/2023 5:03:33 AM EST
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I hate my self for saying this, as I’m a Triji whore, and I try to buy as little chinese shit as possible, but some of the Holosun pistol sights are really good, and I like them better than my Trijis.

The biggest problem, besides Chinese, is that chinadots come with a pile of features, and its up to the end user to decide which ones work or don’t. For example, one of my 508Ts battery died recently, and I found that the solar backup does not work.
Link Posted: 8/30/2023 10:47:58 AM EST
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RMR or Holosun are probably ok for daily civilian carry use.  I have a decent number of both.  

I carry mostly with RMR RM-06 or RM-09.  I started with an RM-07 larger dot on my carry gun and it is still perfectly serviceable with no practical degradation to accuracy at least inside 25-30y.  But I like smaller dots the more I have trained with dots.
 
If I was going to war or open carrying as an LEO I would heavily lean toward Trijicon over Holosun.  I think the titanium Holosun bodies are probably as tough as RMRs, but I don't feel the glass is quite as durable.   Seems to scratch easier.  And as of a few years ago anyway,  at a FoF class with Aaron Cowan he said he had yet to see an RMR get broken by a UTM round at that time.   But a Holosun glass in the class was cracked by a UTM hit.  I guess with live fire that's a non issue because a live round would be hitting your eye either way, but I think it does show a difference in glass durability.

 
Battery powered and adjustable is the way for me too.  I take everything out of auto-adjust modes.   Plus I would never carry a dual-illum models after a bad experience getting the dot to show up under white-light in a low light FoF setting.  I had to fall back to iron sights due to the environment leaving the dot too dim.   That was enough for me to build out my own 17T dot gun.  

Link Posted: 8/30/2023 12:35:23 PM EST
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The USA made kickass RDS with the bible verses written on them.
Link Posted: 9/7/2023 7:39:34 PM EST
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Adjustable RMR. I can attest to the ruggedness because I dropped an AR from a height of at least three feet with an RMR piggybacked on an ACOG and the RMR bore the full brunt of the impact. This was on a hard laminate floor too. RMR is fine.
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