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Posted: 7/23/2013 12:06:53 PM EDT
So, I am looking for another collection piece/occasion range gun.  I have always loved the Walther/Sig 380 ACP blowback type of guns, but since I don't reload 380, I wouldn't shoot it very often.  I also like the single action of the CZ 75 and because it is 9mm, I would probably shoot it more often.  What do you guys think I should get next?
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 12:37:34 PM EDT
CZ 75 without a doubt.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 12:43:15 PM EDT

The PPK is roundly hated by many folks who've owned them.   They are hand-biting, palm-stinging little whores.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 12:45:33 PM EDT
Speaking as someone who has owned both...

Get the stinking CZ!

The PPK may be collectible but even PPK owners will tell you that its a gun that isn't really good at anything.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 12:46:25 PM EDT
The CZ is a no brainer.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 1:55:24 PM EDT
The original Walther PP, in it's original chambering, 7.65 Browning (32 ACP) is a total pussy cat to shoot, and mine has never once taken a bite
out of the web of my hand.

My 1937 Walther PP.

I put 150 rounds through it last Saturday.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 2:15:32 PM EDT
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CZ 75 without a doubt.
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Link Posted: 7/23/2013 2:21:58 PM EDT
CZ 75 no question.

The PPK is a stupid gun.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 2:36:38 PM EDT
The CZ is a true gem to shoot.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 4:04:21 PM EDT
Alright, it looks like the score is 7 to 1.  CZ wins without a doubt.  

What model do you guys think is better, the 75 B or 75 BD?  I like the safety on the B because I can carry it cocked and locked and run it single action only on the range, but I can't find one in stock.  For me, I don't really see a need for the decocker on the BD.  What's the hive's thought?
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 4:13:04 PM EDT
75B no doubt... Cocked / locked wins for me over a decocker everytime.

The Walther is a neat gun.  Not a real range gem and it has been surpassed many times by other better carry guns, but it is a very well made little gun.

Between the two, I'd grab the CZ first unless I found an older (Pre-Smith and Wesson era) PPk.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 6:18:56 PM EDT
CZ 75
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 6:23:45 PM EDT
I've had both the 75B and 75BD.   The BD decocker is in an uncomfortable spot and reeks of being an ill-considered add-on.  The trigger on the BD was better, though.  

Still own the 75B if that means anything.

Link Posted: 7/23/2013 6:54:31 PM EDT
The CZ-75 is a better range and home defense gun, but the PPK is better for concealed carry. A non S&W made Walther is more collectible than a CZ.

I like them both for different reasons, but if I could only own one, it would be the CZ-75. I prefer the PPK in 32ACP/7.65mm as it's similar in ballistics to the 380, but easier on the hand.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 7:23:12 PM EDT
For concealed carry the CZ 75 Compact is a good choice if you were willing to consider a PPK for CCW.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 9:55:37 PM EDT
as an owner of both I'd go with the CZ 75

ammo is cheaper, more capacity, easier to shoot

honestly the PPK, while a decent pistol, is pretty overrated
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 7:00:03 AM EDT
CZ75 for serious personal defense

PPK for 007 fantasy

Both are fun to shoot

ETA- I own both
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 8:15:05 AM EDT
I own a CZ 75B in addition to the PP I posted above.

Apples and Oranges really.

If you want something that will appreciate over time, in other words a collectable, you want a pre S&W PPK or any of the PP models.

If any kind of social work is expected, then the CZ is the better choice, if carry is on the agenda, then I'd opt for the Walther PPS, which I did.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 3:01:44 PM EDT
I owned a CZ 75B for awhile but sold it to a brother in law.  Frankly as 9mms go I prefer a Hi Power.

I also own a PPK/S and I still own it.  People slam the S&W versions, but once the recall was dealt with there was nothing really wrong with them, and they have a long tang that eliminates the slide bite for most users. They lack the collector value of the pre-S&W models, but if you're buying it to shoot a SS S&W is hard to beat.  The PPK/S is larger than many .380s but is lighter and more concealable than  most 9mms.  They are also very durable and quite accurate at self defense ranges.  If they have weaknesses it's the 7+1 mag capacity, the rather vicious recoil that comes with a blow back operated .380 (but the all steel construction really helps tame it relative to lighter/smaller .380s), and the lack of decent tritium night sights for it.

My primary carry gun is usually a .45 ACP Ultra Carry in the summer and a 9mm Hi Power in the winter, but the .380 is the back up weapon year round and is the weapon of choice for dressy occasions when concealing either of the other two would be problematic.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 3:08:31 PM EDT
CZ75 is probably the best DA/SA 9mm hi cap full size on the market. Mine is my EDC CCW.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 3:59:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 7:38:46 PM EDT

Can't go wrong.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 8:04:44 PM EDT

I have a PPK/S and its a pile of shit, really the only gun I have that doesn't fuction. I rented a CZ75 and a Baby Eagle at a local range one night and they were sweet (BE had a better trigger)
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 1:53:33 PM EDT
PP or PPK.
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 8:22:14 PM EDT
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The PPK is roundly hated by many folks who've owned them.   They are hand-biting, palm-stinging little whores.
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I second this fact, and I'm a guy that thinks .44 mags are fun to shoot with max loads. Here's my story; back when I was an officer the local FOP had a drawing at the Christmas party and a PPK/S was the prize. Incredibly, I won. Sure was a dead sexy little piece but, Lord was it a bear to shoot! Straight blowback and a snappy action that hurt the web of my thumb on every shot. Wound up selling it.
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