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Posted: 9/2/2005 5:28:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 5:29:23 PM EDT by CURTISLOW]
Are these 45 cal anygood for personal protection my para has no feed problems with them?
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 6:43:53 AM EDT
The Silvertip was one of the very First expanding loads available for .45ACP

It's been around for over 25 yrs. at least .

It's pretty much equivalent to the current .40 S&W 180 gr. loadings , in so far as
velocity and energy are concerned.

But of course you START with a Bigger bullet

I still keep a few boxes on hand for my 1911.
If you have a commander or Shorty 1911 , it's a good choice to ensure some expansion
and a higher velocity than ball ammo.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 7:30:36 AM EDT
thanks do u think its as good as corbons stuff?
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 10:13:21 AM EDT
The 185 grain bullet has a LOW sectional density, especially once it mushrooms. Its penetration will be poor.

For most purposes, you're better served with a 230 grain hollow point.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 3:36:04 PM EDT
I have just shot a couple of the new 160gr DPX Corbon made for compacts. They worked perfect in my P-10 Para Accurate and less recoil than my PPK/S The DPX is designed to penetrate deeper than normal HP This is a non +P you can get 185DPX +P
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 4:09:42 PM EDT
The 185gr Silvertips in .45 are decent in some respects. If the guy is wearing a t-shirt, the round will stay inside of his torso. If the person is wearing denim or a sweatshirt, the front of the HP deforms and turns into hardball.
Sources: At a range we did alot of testing of these against different barriers and clothing. A coroner who reported 19 of 20 shootings he had that involved a .45 Silvertip round, he recovered the bullet from the torso.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 4:05:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 4:52:39 AM EDT
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CORBONS 230 +P STUFF ITS EXPENSIVE BUT LOOKS NASTY?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 4:53:23 AM EDT
Sorry for caps
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:07:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ikor:
I have seen the results of three local shootings (2 LEO, 1 civilian) with this load...two never expanded at all, and one expanded only a little on one side...all 3 remained in the body cavity...two 5in. barreled M645 S&W's and one 1911...all three BGs were DRT with one round each at close ranges, but placement was excellent. I would not use it if I had a better / more up to date load to select from, but recoil is light and feeding is slick. I much prefer a 230gr. standard velocity JHP.



the two unexpanded bullets stayed in the body? were the shots at a funny angle, or just straight through the chest-to-back?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 5:25:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 5:59:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2005 6:00:14 PM EDT by ikor]
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 10:11:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2005 10:12:35 PM EDT by clubsoda22]
My recommendation is gold dot or ranger 230 gr.

Silvertips are old tech. I found a box of those with my dads super vels. Obviously i had to replace his defensive ammo.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 10:18:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CURTISLOW:
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CORBONS 230 +P STUFF ITS EXPENSIVE BUT LOOKS NASTY?




Looks dont have a damn thing to do with it.


Get a standard velocity load in 230gr. Gold Dots and Winchester Ranger SXTs are outstanding. Plain old cheap 230gr ball will give you a practice load that will feel the same and with a similiar point of impact. The 1911 was designed and built to run a 230gr bullet at around 850fps. People fuck with that combination all the time and then bitch about 1911 un-reliability.

Be smart, shoot well, shoot often.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:07:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By leakycow:

Originally Posted By ikor:
I have seen the results of three local shootings (2 LEO, 1 civilian) with this load...two never expanded at all, and one expanded only a little on one side...all 3 remained in the body cavity...two 5in. barreled M645 S&W's and one 1911...all three BGs were DRT with one round each at close ranges, but placement was excellent. I would not use it if I had a better / more up to date load to select from, but recoil is light and feeding is slick. I much prefer a 230gr. standard velocity JHP.



the two unexpanded bullets stayed in the body? were the shots at a funny angle, or just straight through the chest-to-back?



Not unusual at all. Skin is very tough, and it takes about as much force to penetrate the skin as it does to go through a few inches of muscle.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:07:55 PM EDT
If you wanted to go lighter because of recoil or expansion, there are better choices in 185gr.
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