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Posted: 9/9/2004 5:47:17 PM EST
ammoman has it pretty cheap and i was wondering if it was considered +P as it has the NATO headstamp.

thanks :)
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:02:32 PM EST
+P+ to my understanding.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:17:23 PM EST
Contact Eric and ask him, get it straight from the horse's mouth. I'm 100% sure he would know.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:49:20 AM EST
If I remember the numbers correctly from the manual

M882 has a 124 gr FMJ +/- 1250 fps
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:04:34 AM EST
I would say so. The +P means higher pressure I believe. This is a hot round.
From what I understand, this is NATO ammo intended for sub-machine guns.
I wonder how well it will function in a Glock or Beretta.

Factory 115gr 9mm ammo has a velocity in the 1150-1170FPS range. Corbon's 115
JHP pushes the envelope with a velocity of 1350FPS.

Use with care.

My $0.02 worth.

Spambo
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:18:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/10/2004 6:20:00 AM EST by Hoplophile]

Originally Posted By spambo:
I wonder how well it will function in a Glock or Beretta.


Since both of those pistols were designed as European military sidearms and this ammo is loaded to European military specifications, I don't see how there -could- be any issues. I bought a few cases from Eric a couple years ago and it was great in my Beretta.


Factory 115gr 9mm ammo has a velocity in the 1150-1170FPS range. Corbon's 115
JHP pushes the envelope with a velocity of 1350FPS.

That's the factory spec for the weak assed American 9mm. The Europeans have always used a higher velocity round and having the NATO headstamp means that it is made to the European specifications.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:44:13 AM EST
Speaking of Corbon 115JHP, I clocked it at 1320 FPS out of my Glock 19. Since this
gun has a shorter barrel than a Glock 19 or Beretta 92, I believe that 1350 FPS claim
is genuine.

Spambo
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 12:34:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 1:02:25 PM EST
It's fine to shoot in any well made late model 9mm, although I would be careful about running thousands of rounds through, say, an S&W or a Hi Power. The SEALS...according to the people at Beretta as well as some friends who just might know, given their occupations...were running some shit through the guns you would not believe! This stuff is about +P level on the US scale and just standard ammo everywhere else.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 1:31:14 PM EST
This stuff isnt +P+ subgun ammo like some of the Hirt that was dumped on the market a few years ago.. the M882 ( it comes in a carton marked XM982 if you order it sans cans from ammoman) is roughly equivalent to a +P load like Speer Gold dot 124gr +P or the new 124gr +P Ranger T. It will work fine in modern pistols-- its what is used in the M-9--- the 1250 FPS velocity spec is correct, and it does have the NATO cross headstamp.

My XD-9 likes the stuff and its pretty accurate, I've only shot about 100 rounds of the 2K I ordered.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:11:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By kpel308:
Remember the SEALs problems using hot rounds in the M9. Of course, those guys fired more rounds in a day than I will in my life.

This is not the stuff that the SEALs were using. It is the same stuff that the entire US military and all of the assorted militaries if Europe. It is also the same pressure as the defensive ammo that is used by police and ordinary citizens across America.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 1:45:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:47:57 AM EST
i believe the ammo that smoked the seal's m9s were WAY overclocked. subgun ammo fer sure.

however, m9s have had an assload of slide failures using the standard stuff. but thanks to some frame mods, the slide will no longer hit you in a chest when it fails during a firefight. what a relief!
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