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Posted: 7/20/2006 5:59:35 AM EDT
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The hi-power has been around since at least the 1930's. This means the bugs have all been worked out.
 There is probably no hand gun that has been as carefully designed and refined as it. I simply LOVE my Belgium/FN weapons. Never a problem. You simply can't go wrong in buying one.  There is a forum for hi-power owners that you may want to look at, but I can't recall the address. 
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Posted: 7/20/2006 12:17:41 PM EDT
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although ive only shot 600 rounds through mine, it has been 100% reliable. ive shot everything i can find for it and it eats it all. it is hella accurate too.
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Posted: 7/20/2006 12:29:10 PM EDT
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BHP durability and reliability is legendary. The SAS uses hi-powers as their standard sidearm to great effect. I don't think they would use it if there was a tendency for malfunctions when the weapon gets dirty.
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Posted: 7/22/2006 4:21:24 PM EDT
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www.hipowersandhandguns.com |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 8:45:02 AM EDT
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Told to you by someone wishing to sell you something else they had in stock, no doubt.  At one time, the HP was THE most adopted sidearm of the entire world. This was back in the day when guns had to earn the right to be adopted, no PC need apply. As for being durable, there's a slew of older High Powers out there for sale. While slim & elegant, they're also built solid as a tank, IMO. Damn fine handguns, IMO.
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Posted: 7/23/2006 9:14:43 AM EDT
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I agree with Bob on this. If someone told you that they are unreliable or has any durability issues, they are flat out LYING! BHP is one of the most accurate,dependable and durable handguns you will ever buy. I own a Belgium HP and it is the most accurate handgun I own. I've owned two other HP's previously. All shot anything and everything I put through them. If you are looking to buy a BHP and any gun shop personel tell you not to buy one, walk right out and go buy one else where. DAMN FINE handguns! |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 9:20:53 AM EDT
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I just picked up another one yesterday. my other one that I had and sold, never so much as hickuped.
here's the one I just got.  |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 7:52:57 AM EDT
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I use my guns hard. I work on a lot of guns. I see a lot of broken guns at my friend's shop, which is the busiest full service shop in Phoenix. Hi-Powers rarele come in with a problem, and when they do, it's usually something the owner did to the gun.
I can tell you this. They are supremely reliable handguns, and as far as durability, they are top notch. Are they as durable as a Glock? Not much is. I would put a Hi-Power up against pretty much any 9mm out there though. Add to that the superior grip size and shape, the gun's slim profile, and the low bore axis, and you have a winner. It's one of the most shootable 9mms out there. |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 8:00:57 AM EDT
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I have two HPs, one an older model that I have an extended and threaded barrel on and one almost new with the newer safety lever. I agree, the HP is slim and elegant and very comfortable to shoot. Almost everyone I have seen pick one up comments on how nicely it fits the hand. I have never had a reliability issue with either weapon and as far as being usable when dirty, I do not think that is an issue any more than with any handgun design.
Highly reccomended if you don't want or need a plastic pistol. |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 8:01:58 AM EDT
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Absolute total piece of shit!
I want one too...
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Posted: 7/25/2006 3:43:28 PM EDT
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just picked up another one on auction arms. New mk111 2 mags $365
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Posted: 7/25/2006 4:23:53 PM EDT
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I think the last person I ever saw carry one was Al Pacino about 33 years ago. As a young man at the time, and new to the shooting sports, I was steered from the Serpico charachter and advised by real folks in the real world to seek a 1911 for the enhancements a high power could never touch. (not to mention the bigger bore)
Dunno.....maybe an after market trigger, safety lever, accuracy job, etc...are now available to make it something really special for folks like me that like to customize their full size carry guns. Maybe? Hey, if you like it just the way it is.... then knock yourself out. Enjoy! Not everybody has to buy a Glock or a 1911. I remember hearing something about a whole army that almost took over the world with a 4" DA Walther that few carry today. |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 4:41:05 PM EDT
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 BHP for guys like you.  
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Posted: 7/25/2006 4:42:20 PM EDT
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i picked up a like new Belgian 80's made gun several months ago for cheap.
while i have never really "liked" them <always bit my hand> this thing has grown on me. it's more accurate than 90% of all pistols i have shot and it's a pleasure to shoot. mike 
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Posted: 7/25/2006 4:47:40 PM EDT
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My millitary contract HP has NEVER failed not once zip, zero ,zilch ,nada. just one more reason why its my daily carry gun .
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Posted: 7/25/2006 4:58:44 PM EDT
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www.hipowersandhandguns.com I'm not going to replace mine, but using the spur hammer seems to be the fix. |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 5:14:36 PM EDT
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yes i could change the hammer but this gun doesn't bite me like all the other si have shot <who knows why?> that said it will remain pristine as a piece of my collection. not so much as a carry/shooter.
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Posted: 7/25/2006 6:04:53 PM EDT
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BHPs are great pistols, just be sure to get good magazines. I threw away about half of the aftermarket mags that I bought for my wife's BHP because they would not feed reliably. With good mags it functions flawlessly and is very accurate.
IMNSHO, one of the first things you should do is install the Cylinder & Slide brand trigger. It disables the magazine safety and seems to lighten the trigger pull a bit. |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 7:00:16 AM EDT
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As you correctly identify, the magazine is critical, as in any self-loader. Mec-gar is available from a number of sources. I got great prices on my 15 rounders from Midway. BTW, I like the 15, no problems over the 13, but I really don't care for the 17 round mags (I believe Sout African or Argentinian at CDNN). |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 7:16:08 AM EDT
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Holy Moly! That is funny! I have a HP Pratical, I have owned a HP Beligun and 2 HP GP Comps. Wish I still had a GP Comp. I actually like the BHP a lot. I hope I always have at least one, if not more. Bill |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 7:35:58 AM EDT
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I have and like HPs but find that the CZ-75 is better and cheaper too. CZ basically copied the HP design but did it somewhat better. The CZ-75 is a leading gun used for practical competition shooting (Hogan's Alley type shooting courses) in the production division often beating Glocks out for the world championship.
Basically the CZ has better ergonomics (for most, unless you have small hands) than the HP, including a wider trigger and a better positioned safety. And you don't have to remove the mag safety. The CZ can be used in a SA only mode (cocked and locked) just like the HP, but also has the capability to act in a DA/SA mode, which the HP can't do. HPs are fine, but after discovering the CZ-75 and using it quite a bit in rigorous competition, I'd go with the CZ. Cost less too. |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 10:05:21 AM EDT
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I think some of the reliability complaints come from using hollow point ammo in older (before 1980) hi powers which have been untouched. Certain ammo. under certain circumstances will fail to feed - one of those wrong place at the wrong time things. The original Hi power/p35 feed ramp and throat were designed with ball ammo in mind, and a Hi power of the older vintage will feed those just fine. Sometimes, however the hollow point will get hung up by the combination of the hump in the ramp and the throat. After 1980-1982 they started to throat the chambers, which made feeding a lot easier. Reliability in the older ones can be as simple as a throating and ramp smoothing (by someone who knows what to do and how to do it). The current ones are just fine (after break-in, as with anything). |
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Posted: 7/28/2006 2:28:46 PM EDT
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I just struck a deal for another. 
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Posted: 7/29/2006 11:42:54 AM EDT
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Uhm, no, they're not. CDNN offers HP's for $399 each. As for doing it "better", when the CZ reaches the sales & military adoption levels of the High Power, then get back to us. |
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Posted: 7/29/2006 7:12:47 PM EDT
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I have a MkIII in .40 S&W. Bought it in '98, got 1k all flavors thru it. Never missed a beat. I'm left handed so the ambi safety was a selling point for me. I like other handguns too, and would sell my Browning if I needed the money. BUT, it is a very good pistol, money well spent, never felt bad about the purchase.
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Posted: 7/29/2006 7:23:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2006 7:31:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2006 8:22:21 PM EDT
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I have several thousands of rounds through HP Practical and have never had any issues with it. I use only 115 gr JHP's, and its accurate enough to make head shots well beyond 50 meters as I used to shoot tennis balls at 100 meters with it...
I've had it since '94 IIRC, and can't imagine parting with it ever... |
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Posted: 8/4/2006 1:38:27 AM EDT
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Damn! I have problems doing that with my Bushy with iron sights! |
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Posted: 8/4/2006 4:13:09 AM EDT
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you shot tennis balls at a 100 meters consitantly with a 9mm handgun. we should change your name to deadeye. |
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Posted: 8/4/2006 5:13:46 AM EDT
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I've shot steel swing targets at 100m with my Mk III.
Granted, the target was 2 feet across and I had to use 30 rounds before I finally learned the best place to aim. Even then, I'd expend a full 10 round magazine and only get two hits, and one of those hit or grazed the chain. 
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Posted: 8/4/2006 5:18:55 AM EDT
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oh i bust clays with mine all them time. It just takes me a case of ammo to hit 2-3
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Posted: 8/4/2006 6:15:17 AM EDT
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 I love my BHP, but come on man. |
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Posted: 8/4/2006 8:15:17 PM EDT
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What, don't you guys practice?
At the time I was shooting, on average, about 1500 rounds a week...just thru the BHP. ETA: The only mods to the weapon was a trip to my 'smith for a removal of the mag disconnect and a "trigger job". |
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Posted: 8/5/2006 7:26:34 AM EDT
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I have seen guys keep a can in the air with a 1911. I would think, from experience shooting both, that would be easier with a BHP. No, I am not of that level of ability. |
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Posted: 8/5/2006 7:36:17 AM EDT
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they could do that accross the lenth of a football field(100 meters), consistantly. I've never seen that in my life, I would love to see it of course.
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Posted: 8/5/2006 7:42:23 AM EDT
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That guy was lying. I own several. |
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Posted: 8/13/2006 2:04:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2006 9:25:33 AM EDT
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Stick with FN or Browning ( nearly the same, anyhow ) and you can't go wrong.
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Posted: 8/25/2006 9:26:58 AM EDT
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You need more HP Porn:
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Posted: 8/25/2006 9:39:30 AM EDT
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I've got two, one an original belgian made back in the early 70's and another is an FM copy detective model, the belgian has well over 10k rounds through it, and the FM is coming up on 600 or so, I love both of them and would heartily recommend purchasing a hi-power.
I'm looking at the aluminum ones that AIM is advertising right now, hope there is still one available when I decide to buy it... LOL |
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