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Posted: 9/16/2005 10:38:14 AM EDT
Had my little Colt Officer fail me the other day. The plunger slipped past the safey and locked it in place. Because I spotted this just prior to cleaning it, no harm, no foul. But, it certainly got me thinking about something more fool proof.

I want something that can be tucked into a belt scabbard and hidden with an untucked shirt.

Now, being used to a .45, I want at a minimum a 38+P or better yet, a 357.

Found three S&W's that might fit the bill, a little J frame 442 at 15 oz for 38+p or for the 357 the 386PD with an L frame, but I'm concerned the butt on this little guy will be a problem. Sticking with the J frames the 360 looks good. At 12 oz it should be easy to carry but BAD to actually use.

I'm open to comments. If I stick with an auto I may just dust off a SIG 239 in 357sig and use that, a bird in hand. Once I get my Officer back, repaired, I can go back to that as well. But, I'm very tempted to try a revolver for awhile.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 10:54:53 AM EDT
The one gun I am NEVER without is my S&W 642. It is light and fits in the front pocket of just about everything I wear. .38 +p and always reliable.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:50:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:46:58 AM EDT
I don't think the "K" frames are currently available from S&W in .357

sashmore, how does your littl 443 handle the .357? Any ammo it like better than others?
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:30:23 AM EDT
I also love the 3" HB K frames and have owned several M13,64 and 65s. Like the J frames also and have had M60s and a 442. Still carry the 442 with +Ps when I don't carry the 1911. The 442 generally goes into a pocket while the others all rode in belt rigs.

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 6:03:54 PM EDT
A Glock is a lot like a revolver
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:56:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By nueboch:
sashmore, how does your littl 443 handle the .357? Any ammo it like better than others?

It is a 642, so it is .38 spl +p only. I don't think you gain anything in a 2" gun by using .357 ammo. Mine will eat anything and be reasonably accurate.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 9:08:47 PM EDT
I always have my S&W 642 as a backup and i love it, small, light and nearly invisible
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 4:41:58 PM EDT
I A SUCKER FOR A OLDER GENERATION DETECTIVE SPECIALS.THE bare barrel without full shroud like the later generations of which i have one.
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 10:33:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nueboch:
I don't think the "K" frames are currently available from S&W in .357

sashmore, how does your littl 443 handle the .357? Any ammo it like better than others?

S&W made so many "K" frames I doubt there will be a time where they won't be available on the open market. You can find many a NIB one on any of the gun auction sites, and usually at gunshows there's dozens of used ones to be had as well. For the best combination of size, weight, quality, and power, the 3" M13/M65 is pretty hard to beat.

I carry a Colt Detective Special. It's a little beefier than the J frame, and you get six shots. EXCELLENT trigger and action. It's steel, but the alloy counterparts (Cobra, Agent and Viper) are fairly light. I'm looking for a Cobra/Agent right now.

Link Posted: 10/2/2005 8:51:38 AM EDT
i don't trust automatics, they always either jammed on me. or one, i had hammer follow as i would rack one in. (that was scary but no harm done) i'm a 357 2" snub holder. love it and know it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2005 9:00:17 AM EDT
.357 from a Scandium frame is no fun at all. .38+P is tolerable enough to practice with, which you will need to do to be effective. The steel J frames are not too bad with .357, but a lot of practice can get tiring.

The 3" K Frames are a great option. Put a pair of Spegels on it and it hides like a J frame IWB

Shameless link to EE WTS post for Spegel Boot Grips
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