SureFire MR07 Rail system for 1911

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SureFire MR07 Rail system for 1911

Posted: 9/6/2005 9:46:05 AM EDT

I ran a thread on these about 6 months ago. SF has just again released some of these. If you have a 1911 and have always wanted a rail system then this is one of the best options going.

C4

www.GRTactical.com

Posted: 9/6/2005 9:50:36 AM EDT

[#1]

Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

Posted: 9/6/2005 9:57:58 AM EDT

[#2]

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Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

They are $150 and are near the bottom of this link. www.gandrtactical.com/surefire.htm

C4

Posted: 9/6/2005 10:04:52 AM EDT

[#3]

Aaaaagh...not worth it, when I can put a Dawson rail on my steel gun for $150 including a refinish. $75 would be more like it.

Posted: 9/6/2005 11:30:04 AM EDT

[#4]

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Aaaaagh...not worth it, when I can put a Dawson rail on my steel gun for $150 including a refinish. $75 would be more like it.

You generally have to send your weapon away. This is a do it yourself and you can remove it and put it on multiple 1911's.

C4

Posted: 9/6/2005 11:49:42 AM EDT

[#5]

Tempting, but that giant advertisment on the side kinda ruins it.

Posted: 9/6/2005 11:59:20 AM EDT

[#6]

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Tempting, but that giant advertisment on the side kinda ruins it.

Blast it with Krylon or something. That's a neat idea, never saw one before.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:33:17 PM EDT

[#7]

I take it ONLY made for full size 1911s?

Posted: 9/6/2005 4:36:17 PM EDT

[#8]

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I take it ONLY made for full size 1911s?

Yes. They do make them for other handguns, but I don't think they are available just yet.

C4

Posted: 9/6/2005 9:26:52 PM EDT

[#9]

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Posted: 9/7/2005 3:45:53 AM EDT

[#10]

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I hope nobody takes offense to this, but let me point something out my friend found out. He was not pleased after buying his, but his complaint might be minor to most. He installed it on a nice blued Colt, and when he removed it months later, was surprised to find finish wear at various contact points. He had some marks on the front of his triggerguard and the sides of the frame on and behind the dust cover. I thought this would be obvious beforehand, but it wasn't to him.

Anyway, it's a great alternative to drilling holes or silver soldering it on. USMC Det-1 has the Dawson rail, which admittedly is nice. However, their armorer is of the opinion that a detachable rail would accomplish the same at a much cheaper price, and give them the option of being able to use different lights other than their dedicated Surefire lights.

Tell you friend never to holster his weapon (wear marks).

C4

Posted: 9/7/2005 7:14:00 PM EDT

[#11]

Can only surefire lights be used on this rail?

Posted: 9/7/2005 7:23:18 PM EDT

[#12]

Aside from not holstering it, he may want to refrain from firing it. I hear the cycling of the action can actually cause wear marks on the frame and slide.

All kidding aside, thanks for posting that info Hobbs. A lot of people don't think of those things until it's too late.

Posted: 9/8/2005 12:40:22 AM EDT

[#13]

Take off the "SUREFIRE" banner add and make it about $50 and I would probably get one because it would be dedicated to that gun and never come off. I would not go with it If I was going to put it on and off and on and off. However a stainless gun would remedy the mark problem. I am glad Hobbs posted that though because I hate to make marks on my gun when I do not have to.

How is that better than the other for $59
http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/216

I am not saying the sure fire is not better I am just asking how it is better or at least how is it $100 better.

Posted: 9/8/2005 4:34:47 AM EDT

[#14]

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Take off the "SUREFIRE" banner add and make it about $50 and I would probably get one because it would be dedicated to that gun and never come off. I would not go with it If I was going to put it on and off and on and off. However a stainless gun would remedy the mark problem. I am glad Hobbs posted that though because I hate to make marks on my gun when I do not have to.

How is that better than the other for $59
http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/216

I am not saying the sure fire is not better I am just asking how it is better or at least how is it $100 better.

Well it looks like it is big and bulky and would have have a hell of a time finding a holster for it. Most of your Safariland 6004 holsters will work with this mount. The MR07 has been thoroughly tested and approved by the 10-8 guys. I cannot say the same for the other one.

C4

Posted: 9/8/2005 4:35:49 AM EDT

[#15]

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Can only surefire lights be used on this rail?

Any light that uses the the same mounting platform as the SF does can work with this mount.

C4

Posted: 9/8/2005 4:38:40 AM EDT

[#16]

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Aside from not holstering it, he may want to refrain from firing it. I hear the cycling of the action can actually cause wear marks on the frame and slide.

All kidding aside, thanks for posting that info Hobbs. A lot of people don't think of those things until it's too late.

This is true! People have to remember that companies with .Mil contracts build products for durability and functionality. They do not concern themselves with wear marks on frames of weapons. You have to ask yourself is your gun a show piece or a tool to be used (like a shovel).

C4

Posted: 9/8/2005 4:45:06 AM EDT

[#17]

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Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

They are $150 and SCRREEEECCHH<sound of car brakes> I'll stop reading riiiiiiight about there.
C4

$150???

Sell alot of those?

Posted: 9/8/2005 5:39:11 AM EDT

[#18]

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Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

They are $150 and SCRREEEECCHH<sound of car brakes> I'll stop reading riiiiiiight about there.
C4

$150??? Sell alot of those?

The first batch that was released 6 months ago (I had 10 them) sold out in 1 week.

I have not one complaint and all positive feedback on them.

C4

Posted: 9/8/2005 8:44:01 AM EDT

[#19]

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Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

They are $150 and SCRREEEECCHH<sound of car brakes> I'll stop reading riiiiiiight about there.
C4

$150??? Sell alot of those?

Grant. does this take an extended slide stop to mount properly?

Posted: 9/8/2005 10:21:53 AM EDT

[#20]

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Well, how much are they, and do you have them?

They are $150 and SCRREEEECCHH<sound of car brakes> I'll stop reading riiiiiiight about there.
C4

$150??? Sell alot of those?

Grant. does this take an extended slide stop to mount properly?

No Sir it does not.

FYI folks, the price of $150 is retail! I do offer ARFCOM memer discounts.

C4

Posted: 9/8/2005 11:03:18 AM EDT

[#21]

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Take off the "SUREFIRE" banner add and make it about $50 and I would probably get one because it would be dedicated to that gun and never come off. I would not go with it If I was going to put it on and off and on and off. However a stainless gun would remedy the mark problem. I am glad Hobbs posted that though because I hate to make marks on my gun when I do not have to.

How is that better than the other for $59
http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/216

I am not saying the sure fire is not better I am just asking how it is better or at least how is it $100 better.

edit: It does look rather nice I will give you that. The other one looks great on the 92 but is a little short on the 1911.

Edit: It does look rather nice I will give you that.
Well it looks like it is big and bulky and would have have a hell of a time finding a holster for it. Most of your Safariland 6004 holsters will work with this mount. The MR07 has been thoroughly tested and approved by the 10-8 guys. I cannot say the same for the other one.

C4

I guess if you are going to use it with a holster it is a plus however if I used one it would be for the bedside. I pesonaly would not use it for concealed carry and if I was a profesional I would have one permanantly installed or buy a pistol with one machined into the frame. I do agree it looks a little better however to me "Mr Elcheapo" it does not look $100 better when I know it could not have cost them any more to machine that one than the $59 one. Now if one is made in the States and one is made it a commie country I might spend the extra. That is still a big price jack though.
Just my two cents.

Posted: 9/8/2005 11:18:43 AM EDT

[#22]

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Take off the "SUREFIRE" banner add and make it about $50 and I would probably get one because it would be dedicated to that gun and never come off. I would not go with it If I was going to put it on and off and on and off. However a stainless gun would remedy the mark problem. I am glad Hobbs posted that though because I hate to make marks on my gun when I do not have to.

How is that better than the other for $59
http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/216

I am not saying the sure fire is not better I am just asking how it is better or at least how is it $100 better.

edit: It does look rather nice I will give you that. The other one looks great on the 92 but is a little short on the 1911.

Edit: It does look rather nice I will give you that.
Well it looks like it is big and bulky and would have have a hell of a time finding a holster for it. Most of your Safariland 6004 holsters will work with this mount. The MR07 has been thoroughly tested and approved by the 10-8 guys. I cannot say the same for the other one.

C4

I guess if you are going to use it with a holster it is a plus however if I used one it would be for the bedside. I pesonaly would not use it for concealed carry and if I was a profesional I would have one permanantly installed or buy a pistol with one machined into the frame. I do agree it looks a little better however to me "Mr Elcheapo" it does not look $100 better when I know it could not have cost them any more to machine that one than the $59 one. Now if one is made in the States and one is made it a commie country I might spend the extra. That is still a big price jack though.
Just my two cents.

The thing that people forget is that a certain level of R&D went into this product. Is that free?? No it sure isn't. SF was the first company (to the best of my knowledge) to come out with a quality solution for folks that have a 1911 and wanted a rail.

C4

Posted: 9/9/2005 9:39:54 AM EDT

[#23]

So the one for $59 had no R&D that went into it?

Posted: 9/9/2005 9:53:19 AM EDT

[#24]

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So the one for $59 had no R&D that went into it?

Didn't say that. They could have very well copied a lot of it from the SF design (saving them money).

C4

Posted: 9/9/2005 1:26:34 PM EDT

[#25]

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So the one for $59 had no R&D that went into it?

What $ 59 one?

Posted: 9/9/2005 6:20:36 PM EDT

[#26]

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So the one for $59 had no R&D that went into it?

What $ 59 one?

This one.

The first things I noticed that I didn't like about it;
-The rail is not very long, so it is alot less flexible in mounting options.
-It drops the light a significant amount lower than the Surefire.
-It looks less sturdy due to the fact the Surefire extends to the slide stop on both sides, where as the other one only extends on one side.
-It appears to be shiney.
-The drop and angle of the rail platform looks very prone to snagging.

It comes down to what you need. I'd take the Surefire myself if I needed one.

Posted: 9/9/2005 8:17:50 PM EDT

[#27]

Well I think for the money and the fact that it will be on my duty weapon my money is on the Surefire. I have already e-mailed Grant about it and I will be getting one. I will let you all know how it works out.

Posted: 9/10/2005 1:55:06 AM EDT

[#28]

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So the one for $59 had no R&D that went into it?

What $ 59 one?

http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/216

Posted: 9/18/2005 9:13:21 AM EDT

[#29]

I just got one that came with my P107 Nitro. I haven't test fired with the new slide stop yet. Range is closed on Sunday. Anyone have any results to give? I'm interested to see how the weapon cycles for everybody else. I'll post again next weekend after I run a few hundred through mine.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:59:59 PM EDT

[#30]

I just got mine in today and the fit and finish is great. I'm not a big fan of the advertisment but what ever. I'm going to run it through some rounds at the range this weekend just to see what it does to my milspec....my ever faithful mule

Also is has rubber under the barrel and on the trigger guard. I know they will still rub somewhat but at least its not metal on metal.

Sorry for the terrible pic my camera sucks

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:35:18 PM EDT

[#31]

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I just got mine in today and the fit and finish is great. I'm not a big fan of the advertisment but what ever. I'm going to run it through some rounds at the range this weekend just to see what it does to my milspec....my ever faithful mule

Also is has rubber under the barrel and on the trigger guard. I know they will still rub somewhat but at least its not metal on metal.

img294.imageshack.us/img294/7071/im0021376dd.jpg

Sorry for the terrible pic my camera sucks

Looks good!

C4

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:38:17 PM EDT

[#32]

I hear they work well and I know a million more people would buy them if they didn't look like a billboard.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:43:02 PM EDT

[#33]

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I hear they work well and I know a million more people would buy them if they didn't look like a billboard.

Just get it KG coated if you don't like the writing on the side.

C4

Posted: 9/21/2005 6:27:30 PM EDT

[#34]

to me its function over form. If I wanted a "pretty gun" I would have gotten a operator or something like that with a rail. I have my other SA targets, micros and what not to keep my eye candy desire's filled. This gun is a bedside gun and I need a light. It works, gets the job done, I can sleep at night, good enough for me.

Posted: 9/22/2005 7:30:11 PM EDT

[#35]

I received mine from Grant a week ago. (Thanks Grant the best customer service and fast shipping!) I have put about 450 rounds through the pistol and it has preformed without malfunction. The pistol always has but I was not certain how well it would do with the new slide stop and rail. It is a bit of cash but it is built like a brick shit house. I would always be willing to pay a little extra for something that is of known quality and I think Surefire has proven them selves over and over. It is also recomended by the 10-8 group as an alternative to the Dawson. They don't take these things lightly and if they have said it is good to go you can take it to the bank. As far as the Surefire logo and wear to the pistol if it is going to get me through the worst case situation I could give a damn about looks. My weapons are meant to see wear and tear as well as use. If I have a weapon that does not then I will pull it out of the safe and sell it for more ammo. YMMV but I think this is a great product and a great alternative to the Dawson.

Stay Safe!
Tex

Posted: 9/23/2005 5:28:58 AM EDT

[#36]

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I received mine from Grant a week ago. (Thanks Grant the best customer service and fast shipping!) I have put about 450 rounds through the pistol and it has preformed without malfunction. The pistol always has but I was not certain how well it would do with the new slide stop and rail. It is a bit of cash but it is built like a brick shit house. I would always be willing to pay a little extra for something that is of known quality and I think Surefire has proven them selves over and over. It is also recomended by the 10-8 group as an alternative to the Dawson. They don't take these things lightly and if they have said it is good to go you can take it to the bank. As far as the Surefire logo and wear to the pistol if it is going to get me through the worst case situation I could give a damn about looks. My weapons are meant to see wear and tear as well as use. If I have a weapon that does not then I will pull it out of the safe and sell it for more ammo. YMMV but I think this is a great product and a great alternative to the Dawson.

Stay Safe!
Tex

Glad you like it. You are correct about the 10-8 crew. They don't take their recommendations on gear lightly.

C4

Posted: 9/24/2005 3:05:20 AM EDT

[#37]

I'm taking mine out today and rattling some off down range. Frankly, I think my mil-spec looks meaner than hell with it on, even with a billboard. If it still runs like a top, then I think this rail might be a very smart alternative to buying a new frame, pistol w/ rail, or having one gunsmithed. Plus, the ability to remove it when desired is a plus.

Anybody know of any concealment holsters that will fit this monstrosity now?

Posted: 10/12/2005 6:12:26 AM EDT

[#38]

I recently recieved one of these as a test unit from a Surfire rep, with the guidance from him to "beat the dogshit out of it". Got home from my trip and mounted rail on a Kimber w/ a spare M3 Streamlight and ran a quick 500 rounds through it. The rail does mount other lights than Surefire and holds up well to extended firing. Would I buy one for $150? You bet (turned out I didn't have to spend the money though), good piece of gear.

Posted: 10/12/2005 6:16:57 AM EDT

[#39]

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I recently recieved one of these as a test unit from a Surfire rep, with the guidance from him to "beat the dogshit out of it". Got home from my trip and mounted rail on a Kimber w/ a spare M3 Streamlight and ran a quick 500 rounds through it. The rail does mount other lights than Surefire and holds up well to extended firing. Would I buy one for $150? You bet (turned out I didn't have to spend the money though), good piece of gear.

Good feedback (thanks).

C4

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