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Posted: 11/15/2010 9:02:41 AM EDT
How are the Walther and Sig offerings? I haven't shot either one.
Link Posted: 11/15/2010 9:17:05 AM EDT
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The Walther has a long, long list of owner complaints & a recall or two (IIRC). I owned a Sig Mosquito & I had no issues with it but many others have, FWIW. I later traded it off on something else but not because of any problems I had with the gun.

My current host is a Buckmark Whisper model, a OEM threaded bbl. Price is about the same as a Sig & a much, much better weapon overall.

Obligatory pic:




I don't know if Browning will continue with this model in 2011 or not.
Link Posted: 11/15/2010 9:50:27 AM EDT
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I have a 22/45 already and may thread it later today. The only sig I've fired had a terrible trigger....it was worse than a glock. Spongy, rubber band-ish feel.
Link Posted: 11/15/2010 10:09:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/15/2010 10:48:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/15/2010 3:26:39 PM EDT
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I have a 22/45 already and may thread it later today...



Do it, you won't regret it.



I have numerous rimfire hosts, including the Walther P22 and SIG Mosquito, and my chopped/threaded 22/45 is my very favorite. My Buckmark Whisper (already mentioned above) is becoming my second-favorite, but it's also a bit longer.



My Buckmark Whisper with a Gemtech Outback II (longer bbl/shorter can) and my 22/45 with an AAC Aviator (shorter bbl/longer can):



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Suppressors/BuckmarkwOutbackIIandMkIIIwAviator.jpg
But the P22 with the Outback II makes for a very small/light combo, and my P22 has been problem free (I bought it new and broke it in as directed):



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Suppressors/P22wOutbackIIRIGHT.jpg







I didn't get the chance to turn and thread the 22/45 today. It will be threaded at some point. I was looking at the P22 for exactly the reason you mention. Also, it's a little bit better fit for my wife's hand than my 22/45 is.



 
Link Posted: 11/15/2010 3:30:29 PM EDT
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as .22lr  hosts, I have Tactical solutions 1911, GSG 1911, Ruger MK3, Ruger MK2 with TS upper, Walther P22, and I sold my mosquito





the GSG 1911 is my favorite as of now, BUT the buckmark and cadet and the two best that i have tried.


I considered the TS upper options, but are extra grip frames available? I'd rather have two guns that are GTG than have to swap the upper half all the time. Guess I need to look at the TS and GSG 1911's.



Cadet? A CZ Cadet? Been considering one of those for a while.



 
Link Posted: 11/16/2010 3:51:44 AM EDT
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Spare Ruger gripframes are scarce as hen's teeth. One recently went on GB for about $300. Nobody makes an aftermarket one and Ruger doesn't offer them separately.
CZ Kadets are available as complete guns or as a conversion. My favorite .22 pistol after the S&W M-41. Accurate, solid.
Mosquitos and P-22s have a very spotty reputation.
Not so with the Ruger or Buckmark, which have solid  reps over 60 and 25 or more years, respectively.
If you can find a S$W 422/622/2206, these accept a threaded adapter directly (replaces the barrel nut). The 6" ones require SV ammo to run suppressed (Bulk goes supersonic), but there are 4" ones.
I just get upset when people on a budget throw $300 away on zinc crap when a real gun of heirloom quality is little, if any, more expensive.
Link Posted: 11/16/2010 5:02:28 PM EDT
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I just get upset when people on a budget throw $300 away on zinc crap when a real gun of heirloom quality is little, if any, more expensive.





Link Posted: 11/17/2010 4:54:02 PM EDT
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I just get upset when people on a budget throw $300 away on zinc crap when a real gun of heirloom quality is little, if any, more expensive.


+ 1

Link Posted: 11/18/2010 9:14:34 AM EDT
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Spare Ruger gripframes are scarce as hen's teeth. One recently went on GB for about $300. Nobody makes an aftermarket one and Ruger doesn't offer them separately.

CZ Kadets are available as complete guns or as a conversion. My favorite .22 pistol after the S&W M-41. Accurate, solid.

Mosquitos and P-22s have a very spotty reputation.

Not so with the Ruger or Buckmark, which have solid  reps over 60 and 25 or more years, respectively.

If you can find a S$W 422/622/2206, these accept a threaded adapter directly (replaces the barrel nut). The 6" ones require SV ammo to run suppressed (Bulk goes supersonic), but there are 4" ones.

I just get upset when people on a budget throw $300 away on zinc crap when a real gun of heirloom quality is little, if any, more expensive.


As much as I've like the M41's that I've fondled, I haven't been able to make myself pay the going rate for one. Will the Kadet kit work on an SP01? What are complete Kadet pistols going for?



 
Link Posted: 11/18/2010 2:14:13 PM EDT
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I've seen a lot of complaints on the walther and sig here on the boards here. I went with a Ruger MK II with pacite upper





Link Posted: 11/18/2010 3:16:09 PM EDT
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What are complete Kadet pistols going for?  




Low to mid-$600s on Gun Broker.
Link Posted: 11/18/2010 3:19:36 PM EDT
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I have a number of 22lr hosts for my suppressor.  My first was a P22 that came with a suppressor.  I haven't had a problem with mine.  It is reliable and at 75% the size of full size handgun it is excellent for smaller hands.  

The Sig Mosquito has a stiffer trigger and is 90% the size of full size handgun.  The Mosquito prefers CCI Mini Mags without a suppressor and the barrel is short enough to keep them from becoming super sonic.  

I built my Ruger 22/45 Mk III by buying a threaded barrel from GemTech and putting a WTB order on the Ruger Forum.  I got a grip frame, bolt, and two mags for $175.  I really like the quality of GemTech's work.  The tread protector is almost impossible to detect.  My Ruger is an excellent host.  The sights clear the suppressor and the trigger is superior and only getting better.  

I also have a 9mm Sig P226, I got a 22lr conversion kit with a threaded barrel for it.  With modified mags that hold 15 rounds this setup offers an economical choice to shooting 9mm rounds and allows practice with the controls and the trigger pull.

Link Posted: 11/18/2010 4:44:05 PM EDT
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What are complete Kadet pistols going for?  

Low to mid-$600s on Gun Broker.


I might as well buy a used S&W M41 for a couple hundred more.



 
Link Posted: 11/20/2010 3:07:30 AM EDT
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I might as well buy a used S&W M41 for a couple hundred more.  



Well, it's a toss-up there, IMO. The Kadet is one of the few (the Beretta 87 Target being the other) that even approaches the quality of a Model 41 & I say that as a hardcore Buckmark lover too.

I don't think I would cry as hard if I dropped a Kadet as I would if I dropped my Model 41....................    

Link Posted: 11/20/2010 3:24:43 PM EDT
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Picked up a GSG 1911 for $299. Works great with all ammo I've tried so far. I also have a Ruger 22/45 w/threaded barrel and a P22. The GSG is really fun to shoot. Silencerco adapter for $35.

Cocobolo Grips



Link Posted: 11/21/2010 7:50:20 AM EDT
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doggone double tap!
Link Posted: 11/21/2010 7:55:55 AM EDT
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I recently got a GSG 1911 .22 as well, and was pleasantly surprised to find that they are all threaded from the factory, but unpleasantly surprised to find that it requires a $40 Swarf Works adapter to accept standard suppressors. Being a machinist, I'm pretty certain you could easily make one for next to nothing.

Aside from the zinc slide, mine looks and feels great and has reliably eaten everything I've fed it, save for Aguila Colibri rounds (which won't cycle any action, ever, but are scary quiet!). If I could find or make a steel slide for it, it would be near perfect.

I'm sure you've seen my posts about my Mosquito experiences, by now. Once I did all the polishing, trigger work, and break in it's great, but getting there was a massive headache.
Link Posted: 11/21/2010 8:53:27 AM EDT
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I recently got a GSG 1911 .22 as well, and was pleasantly surprised to find that they are all threaded from the factory, but unpleasantly surprised to find that it requires a $40 Swarf Works adapter to accept standard suppressors. Being a machinist, I'm pretty certain you could easily make one for next to nothing.



Aside from the zinc slide, mine looks and feels great and has reliably eaten everything I've fed it, save for Aguila Colibri rounds (which won't cycle any action, ever, but are scary quiet!). If I could find or make a steel slide for it, it would be near perfect.



I'm sure you've seen my posts about my Mosquito experiences, by now. Once I did all the polishing, trigger work, and break in it's great, but getting there was a massive headache.


A full size 1911 slide in steel would be too heavy for .22 LR to cycle. Some of the conversions(for 1911's) used a slide similar to that of a buckmark, IIRC...which was steel.



 
Link Posted: 11/22/2010 7:01:34 AM EDT
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I can wish, can't I? I realize a full on steel  slide would be too heavy, but there has to be a better solution than these brittle zinc slides.
Link Posted: 11/22/2010 3:52:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Forged or machined aluminum like Sig Classic P-220/226/228/9, Kimber, Ciener, AA, etc.
But not for $300 for a complete pistol.
Even if would work, you won't get a steel slide on a $300 1911.
Link Posted: 11/24/2010 3:21:23 PM EDT
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As much as I've like the M41's that I've fondled, I haven't been able to make myself pay the going rate for one. Will the Kadet kit work on an SP01? What are complete Kadet pistols going for?
 


Yep, a Kadet will work on an SP-01.
Link Posted: 11/24/2010 3:31:33 PM EDT
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I might as well buy a used S&W M41 for a couple hundred more.  



Well, it's a toss-up there, IMO. The Kadet is one of the few (the Beretta 87 Target being the other) that even approaches the quality of a Model 41 & I say that as a hardcore Buckmark lover too.

I don't think I would cry as hard if I dropped a Kadet as I would if I dropped my Model 41....................    



I actually have to give the nod to the Kadet, personally be a significant margin. Never owned one, but I've shot a few Model 41s, and I was never really overwhelmed by them, certainly not at their usual price tag.
Link Posted: 11/25/2010 10:53:30 PM EDT
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Picked up a GSG 1911 for $299. Works great with all ammo I've tried so far. I also have a Ruger 22/45 w/threaded barrel and a P22. The GSG is really fun to shoot. Silencerco adapter for $35.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/davekr/Guns%202010/GSG1911640x480.jpg


Bad ass!

I'm gonna get one of these hopefully soon. My wife is gonna kill me....
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:21:21 PM EDT
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My wife is going kill me too. Mine will be here Monday. Hope my silencerco adapter isn't to far behind!
Link Posted: 12/5/2010 12:39:45 PM EDT
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I might as well buy a used S&W M41 for a couple hundred more.  

Well, it's a toss-up there, IMO. The Kadet is one of the few (the Beretta 87 Target being the other) that even approaches the quality of a Model 41 & I say that as a hardcore Buckmark lover too.





I don't think I would cry as hard if I dropped a Kadet as I would if I dropped my Model 41....................    











They're easier to have threaded than a 41 as well.

 
 
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 1:44:48 PM EDT
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Tactical Innovations used to sell the CZ Kadet with threaded barrel . I'm looking to get one now and its off their website sucks
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 1:50:34 PM EDT
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Tactical Innovations used to sell the CZ Kadet with threaded barrel . I'm looking to get one now and its off their website sucks


Yeah, I think they're done doing that. But you can get a Kadet and other places will fit it with a threaded adapter.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 10:41:43 AM EDT
[#29]
You could always do one of these TS uppers for your 1911:



Link Posted: 12/10/2010 6:31:02 AM EDT
[#30]
I recently got a Sig Mosquito for a silencer host. Im not sure if I got lucky or Sig has made them better, but mine will feed everything ive put thru it, including sub-sonics. The only break inI did was 100 rds of CCI mini-mags
Link Posted: 12/15/2010 6:10:08 PM EDT
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If I still had a full size 1911, I'd probably go that route. My only 1911 right now is a Springer Micro.



 
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 5:42:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:15:14 AM EDT
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I really like my Buckmark with the TacSol upper:

Link Posted: 12/16/2010 12:01:12 PM EDT
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If I still had a full size 1911, I'd probably go that route. My only 1911 right now is a Springer Micro.



I can't remember –– do you own any Glocks?



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Suppressors/AAGlockconvwAACAviatorright.jpg


Nope. Never have liked them.



 
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 12:01:52 PM EDT
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