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Posted: 6/6/2011 7:49:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Instead of carrying the G19 in a backpack, i recommend a smaller pistol on your waist and accessible.
By the time you react and draw from your backpack it may be too late. A compact 9mm can do the Jo: PPS, Kahr PM9 etc Or even a .380 with some buffalo bore hardcast bullets (mmm P238 or bodyguard). The key is 1) carrying it 2) having it quickly accessible 3) Train Good luck |
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Posted: 6/6/2011 7:50:46 PM EDT
[#2]
oh and carry rigs:
1) Belly Bands 2) Thin IWB holster with Belt (Works great with cargos) 3) The infamous fanny pack Just some ideas. |
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Posted: 6/6/2011 8:39:13 PM EDT
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If I absolutely can't carry the G19, this is what I go to. |
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Posted: 6/6/2011 11:20:36 PM EDT
[#4]
why the gloves may i ask? you an EMT or something?
i carry my glock or XD IWB still. either a baggy tshirt or a short sleeve button up. carrying in your backpack does no good. if you cannot find a way to carry a full size on your person in the summer, think about a LCP or something for pocket carry. |
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Posted: 6/6/2011 11:33:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2011 2:14:25 AM EDT
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a j frame, kel tec or similar small pocket gun would be better than a g19 in a backpack. I will go with a jframe in the summer sometimes, not my first choice but better than nothing.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 2:21:45 AM EDT
[#7]
I carry a PPS in shorts/tshirt all the time IWB. It works pretty well. I still get worried that it will print or I'll bend over and it will be shown, but according to friends who didn't know I was carrying they would have never had a clue.
Its a little big to put in a cargo/front pocket though. I wouldn't mind finding something even smaller for the really hot summer months that can go in a pocket. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 4:30:01 AM EDT
[#8]
I purchased a used Rohrbaugh R9 to answer this problem.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 4:43:31 AM EDT
[#9]
I carry a 5in 1911 with a TLR-1 attached, OWB. I wear a under armor heat gear shirt as a under shirt, so the gun isn't touching my skin. and most days I wear Columbia shirts. either their fishing shirts or their polo style fishing shirts. they are cool, breath able and are meant to be worn untucked. what you wear down below makes no difference. I wear shorts and flip flops too. I keep boat shoes in the truck so If I need to see a client I can put them on. Just because its hot out doesn't mean you have to carry a smaller gun. I would love to see some of you run these small guns in a class and be proficient with them. non the less deploy them in a life and death situation and be affective. it is upper 90's here with a humidity of 95%, it doesnt get much hotter than that.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 4:55:36 AM EDT
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I carry a 5in 1911 with a TLR-1 attached, OWB. I wear a under armor heat gear shirt as a under shirt, so the gun isn't touching my skin. and most days I wear Columbia shirts. either their fishing shirts or their polo style fishing shirts. they are cool, breath able and are meant to be worn untucked. what you wear down below makes no difference. I wear shorts and flip flops too. I keep boat shoes in the truck so If I need to see a client I can put them on. Just because its hot out doesn't mean you have to carry a smaller gun. I would love to see some of you run these small guns in a class and be proficient with them. non the less deploy them in a life and death situation and be affective. it is upper 90's here with a humidity of 95%, it doesnt get much hotter than that. Just keep in mind that others have different concerns than you. For instance... Shorts, fishing shirt, and boat shoes? For clients? You don't really believe everyone is living that dream do you? Your tone even suggests that others are stupid if they aren't. The smart carry is a great way to carry a full size gun with no one being the wiser. And it most certainly can be deployed, shirt tucked in or not, as fast as an IWB with the shirt tucked in. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 5:09:05 AM EDT
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I carry a 5in 1911 with a TLR-1 attached, OWB. I wear a under armor heat gear shirt as a under shirt, so the gun isn't touching my skin. and most days I wear Columbia shirts. either their fishing shirts or their polo style fishing shirts. they are cool, breath able and are meant to be worn untucked. what you wear down below makes no difference. I wear shorts and flip flops too. I keep boat shoes in the truck so If I need to see a client I can put them on. Just because its hot out doesn't mean you have to carry a smaller gun. I would love to see some of you run these small guns in a class and be proficient with them. non the less deploy them in a life and death situation and be affective. it is upper 90's here with a humidity of 95%, it doesnt get much hotter than that. I have qualified with my PPS on the same course that I have my duty gun and shoot it with almost the exact same proficiency. The majority of the time I could easily carry a full-sized pistol, but I don't. It's a matter of choice. I know that 90% of CC shootings occur from 5-7ft and use 3-5 rounds. Sure, I'd like to be prepared for a fucking firefight every single time I go to buy groceries but I know that's not feasible or reasonable. Most people think I over do it because I carry 99% of the time I am off-duty. The 1% of the time that I don't carry is usually in those strange circumstances where carrying IWB or OWB would just be pointless and I can confirm that the risk of incident is near zero. Those are the times that an even smaller gun would be nice to have. If nothing else for my peace of mind. There is nothing wrong with running a small pistol. And I understand where you are coming from and hope that everyone that carries the smaller CC guns puts as much if not more trigger time into becoming comfortable with them than their full-sized guns. But with that being said there ARE advantages to carrying a smaller concealed gun. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 6:42:26 AM EDT
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I thought I was going to have to go to a pocket pistol or J frame for the summer. Turns out I can carry my EDC gun (Ruger SR9C in a Kholster) just fine. With shorts that have no belt loops (swim trunks) I just wear the belt underneath and clip to holster to that as well as the waistband. Its working so far.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 6:45:46 AM EDT
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I carry an LCP in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. For me, this was the best solutions as my XD tended to be in my truck more often than not. YMMV, of course.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 6:49:21 AM EDT
[#14]
Sadly, you're in Texas...
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Posted: 6/7/2011 7:01:57 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
why the gloves may i ask? you an EMT or something? i carry my glock or XD IWB still. either a baggy tshirt or a short sleeve button up. carrying in your backpack does no good. if you cannot find a way to carry a full size on your person in the summer, think about a LCP or something for pocket carry. Because I have first responder training from when I was in the police academy and I don't want people's heebie jeebies if I come up on an accident scene.  They weigh an ounce or something and I put them in a cargo pocket and forget about em.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 8:29:37 AM EDT
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I often do this in the summer with a J-frame. Simple, super easy, and nobody knows.
The belt is less important since the gun is fairly light and no holster. A belt or drawstring that stays tight is the most important thing. 
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Posted: 6/7/2011 8:36:00 AM EDT
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This is a pretty common question. I admit, I am a bit fickle. One the one hand I say “carrying a gun is a lifestyle change, dress around the gun and deal with it”. Then on the other I say “any gun is better than no gun”. There are also times when a t-shirt would sure be nice to wear but I end up wearing a button up for concealment. For me, a t-shirt never works as well as a button up because I don’t like wearing oversized t-shirts and though some seem to defy the laws of concealment but swearing their tight shirt conceals well, it doesn’t work that well for me.
My primary carry gun is a G19. For a while I got in the habit of carrying my 26 instead for size and weight savings. And yes I’m one of those that preached the G19 and 26 were almost the same size for a long time. The weight is noticeable. I loathe carrying a J-frame, but do on occasion. The bottom line is you have to decide what works best for you and go with it. And if that means carrying an LCP or something but you WILL carry it, so be it. Better than nothing. I hate to have the “better than nothing” attitude though on that day that I am in a fight for me life. Probably never happen, but it does happen, hence why we carry. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 9:15:43 AM EDT
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I'm trying to stick it out with the G19 in a CrossBreed, but I must admit, it is getting old. It's hot, and I'm still waiting on my S&W Bodyguard to get here. 
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Posted: 6/7/2011 3:53:40 PM EDT
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Many of you guys may laugh....but, I picked up a North American Arms Mini Revolver (with the holster grip) from a local gun show this weekend.
I ended up paying $225 out the door for it with tax included. It's a .22 LR 5 shot revolver with a 1 1/8th in barrel. When folded up, it looks like a small pocket knife in your pocket and only weighs in at 6.3oz fully loaded. I know .22LR is not typically a defensive round, but it sure beats carrying a G19 in a galco IWB when it's 95* out in shorts and a t-shirt. There's no way anyone could possibly spot it on me. I call it my 'get off me gun' that I borrowed name from Sootch00 on YouTube. As most say....any gun is better than no gun at all. I find myself carrying 100% of the time now, even if its walking a block down the road to the ATM. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 4:16:03 PM EDT
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Many of you guys may laugh....but, I picked up a North American Arms Mini Revolver (with the holster grip) from a local gun show this weekend. I ended up paying $225 out the door for it with tax included. It's a .22 LR 5 shot revolver with a 1 1/8th in barrel. When folded up, it looks like a small pocket knife in your pocket and only weighs in at 6.3oz fully loaded. I know .22LR is not typically a defensive round, but it sure beats carrying a G19 in a galco IWB when it's 95* out in shorts and a t-shirt. There's no way anyone could possibly spot it on me. I call it my 'get off me gun' that I borrowed name from Sootch00 on YouTube. As most say....any gun is better than no gun at all. I find myself carrying 100% of the time now, even if its walking a block down the road to the ATM. Unless you actually have to use it. 
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Posted: 6/7/2011 5:07:05 PM EDT
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For me, the larger pistol issue is one of weight when wearing really light clothing. One poster mentioned OWB and this is actually a very comfortable option in the heat. Just use a light undergarment or underarmor shirt, wife beater, whatever and a cool (temperature wise) cover shirt. Carrying a full mag opposite side helps balance it all with a good belt. I carry my G19 like that at times.
If you have to dress up at work you are already dealing with a certain amount of discomfort in the heat so something like a Supertuck or MTAC would carry a heavier gun well and lots of folks post about little to no irritation without under garments. A light wifebeater or underarmor isn't too hot if you are already dressed up and need the protection. As far as pocket pistols, they aren't optimum based on current training and deployment teaching that most folks offer, but they have been carried for years and used effectively when needed. You have to be aware of the limitations of the gun and the rounds, as well as the need for practice in deploying it. As far as training courses, there are some companies that will offer training on pocket guns, mouseguns, etc. You can do alot to improve your odds by just practicing deploying your pocket pistol and by firing it at realistic ranges and making sure it will run when you need it. While a .38 special J-frame might be the minimum in some eyes, a .380 LCP, for example, that runs reliably can have 7 rounds available and a quick 6 round reload on hand just as fast as any 5 shot .38 deployed and reloaded from the same pockets in your shorts. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 5:24:04 PM EDT
[#22]
I just switched over from a Glock 26 to a Ruger LC9 for summertime. I ordered a Desantis Nemesis for it and will carry in a cargo pocket of my shorts. Also plan to order a Comptac Infidel for iwb carry. Holds 7+1 of 9mm and with a extra mag, gives me 15 rounds of +p hollowpoints available. I am good with that.....
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Posted: 6/7/2011 5:36:47 PM EDT
[#23]
I am in the same league with the guy carrying the 5" 1911 even in the summer, I normally wear, (in the summer) shorts and a baggy t-shirt or a 5.11 shirt meant to conceal, or a loose fitting polo shirt. I carry my 5" Kimber in an IWB Crossbreed holster though, and also wear a moisture wicking undershirt so my pistols grip isn't up against my skin. I'm not saying this is the way everyone should do it, but it works for me. I am not really all too concerned about my shirt imprinting my pistol either, but I would like to avoid being asked about it all the same. I am a Police Sergeant so I always have my badge with me as well, and normally, (except for Sundays at church), have it clipped to my belt right beside of my firearm. Hope this helps.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 6:26:30 PM EDT
[#24]
I carry the same 5" 1911. IWB Crossbreed ST. - Shorts, muscle t-shirt "aka wife beater" Flowery shirt that will obscure possible printing or an XL t-shirt.
Works for me. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 6:44:12 PM EDT
[#25]
My usual carry is a Glock 19 in a BladeTech IWB. I work outside all day everyday and because of the chemicals we use I have to wear long pants, long sleeve shirts, boots, and when using the chemicals, those green nitrile gloves. While the Glock has been just fine for the past couple years, this year I am trying something else. Last week I picked up a Ruger LCP and am currently trying that out in a pocket holster, and I have to tell you it's nice. I know it's just a .380 and I will carry my Glock everyday that I can but for days like today and how tomorrow is going to be(95 degrees, high humidity, and heat index of over 100), this little LCP is a nice change.
I don't advocate drastically changing how/what you carry just because of weather but if you do, just make sure you remember what you are carrying and train with each system. |
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Posted: 6/7/2011 7:51:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Comp-Tac 2 o-clock is a great one for shorts and t-shirt
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Posted: 6/7/2011 8:32:42 PM EDT
[#27]
For the past five years I have been carrying a G32 OWB in a pancake holster. I never liked the ankle holsters. Never was allowed to carry anything more than a Glock (dept rules) and didn't have the money at the time to purchase a baby Glock. I t wasn't much of a problem in winter here, but in the summer I always had to dress around the weapon. Now I have the opportunity to carry something other than a Glock and I am leaning towards a .380 (preferably the sig) or an Airlight for the summer carry. I will still carry the G32 in winter or when I am not going out in shorts and a T-shirt.
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Posted: 6/8/2011 5:29:16 AM EDT
[#28]
I change over from my Glock 19 to a Glock 26 in the summer. Florida heat can be rough and the 26 isn't too bad in a crossbreed supertuck with shorts and a tshirt
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Posted: 6/8/2011 6:51:37 AM EDT
[#29]
Id like to know how yall that pocket carry J frames in cargo pants deal with the "slap" as your walking around. My cell phone is annoying enough...cant imagine a pound of steel whacking me in the thighs.
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Posted: 6/8/2011 7:42:53 AM EDT
[#30]
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Instead of carrying the G19 in a backpack, i recommend a smaller pistol on your waist and accessible. By the time you react and draw from your backpack it may be too late. ... The key is 1) carrying it 2) having it quickly accessible 3) Train Good luck Agree. Find a way to have it accessible. You won't make the G19 work with a tight tee shirt. Only option is a short sleeve buttom up or a small gun. In summer, you need to dress around the gun depending on your fashion preferences and body type. The G26 could fit that bill BUT you still cannot wear a tight tee shirt AND you'll need wear shorts that will take a good belt. And, you still have your spare mag to work in. I find a short sleeve buttom up the realistic option, or a DARK oversized heavy cotton tee shirt. |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 9:22:00 AM EDT
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Id like to know how yall that pocket carry J frames in cargo pants deal with the "slap" as your walking around. My cell phone is annoying enough...cant imagine a pound of steel whacking me in the thighs. If you think that's bad, try it in gym shorts. 
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Posted: 6/8/2011 11:36:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Another J-frame in the pocket guy here. Very good for shorts and t-shirt carry as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: 6/8/2011 12:20:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Kahr PM 9 in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster, extra mag in rear pocket wearing shorts and a T shirt. I don't leave home without it, nobody ever notices and it is so comfortable I don't even think about it.
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Posted: 6/8/2011 12:40:38 PM EDT
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Anyone here have a special summer carry? It is shorts and flip flop weather here, so I have been carrying my g19 in a backpack, instead of on me. Thinking about either getting a better holster, or getting a pistol with a slightly lower profile. What does everyone carry during the hot months? I have been taking my G23 with me, and no one knows it's there but me
I use a CBH SuperTuck... |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 12:42:20 PM EDT
[#35]
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I often do this in the summer with a J-frame. Simple, super easy, and nobody knows. The belt is less important since the gun is fairly light and no holster. A belt or drawstring that stays tight is the most important thing. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/thealpal/arfcom/DSC02658e.jpg I use the black version of that belt... |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 7:40:55 PM EDT
[#36]
SWFL
IWB Blade tech / Sig P229 40sw Cargo shorts & T shirt Spare 12rd mag & Surfire E2d in cargo pockets S&W AW in left front pocket SOCOM ELITE right front pocket |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 7:43:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Shorts, sandals, 2xl T-shirt, and a Glock 22 in a IWB holster supported by a good belt.
Maybe even a 15 or 22 round magazine as a spare. |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 7:52:05 PM EDT
[#38]
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Shorts, sandals, 2xl T-shirt, and a Glock 22 in a IWB holster supported by a good belt. Maybe even a 15 or 22 round magazine as a spare. I carry the same thing with 2 extra mags under a 2xl dark blue t shirt and cargo pants with a Ruger Lcr in the front left pocket. |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 7:53:07 PM EDT
[#39]
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Anyone here have a special summer carry? It is shorts and flip flop weather here, so I have been carrying my g19 in a backpack, instead of on me. Thinking about either getting a better holster, or getting a pistol with a slightly lower profile. What does everyone carry during the hot months? I am in North Texas and would be glad to show you that you can carry a Glock 19 on your person in the hot Texas summer |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 9:20:38 PM EDT
[#40]
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Anyone here have a special summer carry? It is shorts and flip flop weather here, so I have been carrying my g19 in a backpack, instead of on me. Thinking about either getting a better holster, or getting a pistol with a slightly lower profile. What does everyone carry during the hot months? I have been taking my G23 with me, and no one knows it's there but me
I use a CBH SuperTuck... I'm fairly stocky (5'10", 290#) so maybe it is a little easier for me, but... I carry a XD45 service grade, with Crossbreed Supertuck. Sometimes I have a S&W 640 .357 with a 5-shot reload. The pistol is carried in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster, which has a sort of 'sticky rubber' substance that keeps the holster in the pocket when the pistol is drawn. |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 7:44:19 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: Kahr PM 9 in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster, extra mag in rear pocket wearing shorts and a T shirt. I don't leave home without it, nobody ever notices and it is so comfortable I don't even think about it. That's what I do, except I carry 2 spare mags in my back pocket. |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 3:50:50 PM EDT
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Shorts, sandals, 2xl T-shirt, and a Glock 22 in a IWB holster supported by a good belt. Maybe even a 15 or 22 round magazine as a spare. I carry the same thing with 2 extra mags under a 2xl dark blue t shirt and cargo pants with a Ruger Lcr in the front left pocket. I do a S&W left pocket also lite color T shirts Black & Blue seem to soak up the FL heat |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 5:16:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Keltec LCP, in my pocket.
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Posted: 6/9/2011 9:41:08 PM EDT
[#44]
lately a Tomcat in a desantis holster in my pocket
I need to lose a bunch of weight (I've found I deal with the heat even worse than I used to since I've gained some weight) so I can go back to what I used to do which was mt G30 in a sidearmor IWB |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 9:28:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: My primary carry gun is a G19. For a while I got in the habit of carrying my 26 instead for size and weight savings. And yes I’m one of those that preached the G19 and 26 were almost the same size for a long time. The weight is noticeable. Nice to see you've seen the light. There's a significant difference, not only in concealment (depending on where you carry), but also in versatility and comfort, between a G19 and a G26. And the icing on the cake, at least for me, is with the GAP magazine floorplate the G26 is not only more comfortable to shoot, but I shoot it better than my G19.
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Posted: 6/10/2011 10:18:38 AM EDT
[#46]
Anywhere, anytime, anyplace pistol is my LCP in a wallet holster.
Next in line is a 642 in a pocket holster. Main carry pistol is a M&Pc in a MTAC holster. The vast majority of the time it's the M&Pc. Just dress around the gun a bit and I'm GtG! |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 4:30:15 PM EDT
[#47]
I carry the full size M&P .40 in complete comfort, under shorts and a tee shirt all year round; the 9c is for the rare occasion that I need a pistol with shorter grips for adequate concealment under tight fitting, tucked, dress shirts.
My everyday, year round rig. 
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Posted: 6/11/2011 5:56:19 AM EDT
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I daily carry a full size 1911 in an IWB High Noon Tailgater at 3:15 or so. I usually wear some kind of camp shirt (LLBean has a nice selection of no iron camp and button down short sleaves that provide good cover) with cargoes or jeans. The leather High Noon does get a little hot but it's not unbearable. |
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Posted: 6/11/2011 7:22:22 AM EDT
[#49]
No.
My winter carry is the same as my summer carry is the same as my spring and fall carry. Glock 17, IWB, two extra mags, two knives, two flashlights, and a 442. |
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Posted: 6/11/2011 12:13:29 PM EDT
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Anytime I can wear a loose fiiting shirt I carry my FNP 9 in a hi riding holster on the right side of the small of my back. When I ride my motorcycle I put my LCR in a pocket of my jacket. I need to get a good holster for the LCR. Any recommendations?
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