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Posted: 7/16/2005 12:48:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2005 8:47:04 PM EDT by M11293]


Just in general what should I expect for reliability and accuracy?

Parkerized PX9109L Full Size
Caliber: .45 ACP
Capacity: 7+1
Barrel: 5", 1:16 LH
Sights: Novak® Night Sights
Sight Radius: 6.75"
Size: 38 ozs., 8.5" overall length
Trigger Pull: 5 to 6 lbs.
Magazines: 2
MSRP: $845.00
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 1:15:20 PM EDT
got one that's going on 2000 rds without any failures that couldn't be attributed to the crappy mags it came with. (not a single failure with Wilson 47Ds) Accuracy is decent--3" offhand at 15 yds. More than needed for a carry gun.....and a lifetime warranty!
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 2:08:33 PM EDT
Well, I bought one today!

Thanks for posting.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 3:35:42 PM EDT
I bought a loaded stainless several years ago. It has had some mods but was good to go right out of the box. I think you will be pleased.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 3:38:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/16/2005 3:39:07 PM EDT by sysop]
The Springfield Loaded Models are very nice. I don't own one (all my 1911's are Kimber) but I have several friends who do and have shot most of them. Edit: That is to say I have shot their Springfields not them as such.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:09:07 PM EDT
One of the other customers at the store said it is hard on a 1911 to let the slide go when not chambering a round.

True or False?
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:20:14 PM EDT
I use one as my everyday carry gun, close to 2k rounds and zero failures
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:32:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M11293:
One of the other customers at the store said it is hard on a 1911 to let the slide go when not chambering a round.

True or False?



It is a bad idea to let any firearm sslam into battery without a cartridge to cushion the blow.

1911's with touchy trigger jobs really don't appreciate the abuse. Think sear engagement angles. Simply depress trigger if you must slam slide on empty chamber. I know this is not exactly what the NRA teackes but it does disengage the sear via the disconector.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:44:59 PM EDT
It is generally not a good idea to slam slide any semi-auto on an empty or no mag regularly.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:46:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bubba99:

Originally Posted By M11293:
One of the other customers at the store said it is hard on a 1911 to let the slide go when not chambering a round.

True or False?



It is a bad idea to let any firearm sslam into battery without a cartridge to cushion the blow.

1911's with touchy trigger jobs really don't appreciate the abuse. Think sear engagement angles. Simply depress trigger if you must slam slide on empty chamber. I know this is not exactly what the NRA teackes but it does disengage the sear via the disconector.



true. It's a good idea to do this once or twice when purchasing a new gun (to ensure the hammer won't follow the slide...that would really suck if it happened with a loaded magazine)



I didn't mention it (until now) but my other 1911 is a Les Baer. The Baer is definately a more finely machined pistol, but I'd put my SA up against it any day. Both are accurate, well made guns.....of course, there's no MIM on the LB, but if something was gonna break on the SA, it probably would have by now.
Link Posted: 7/18/2005 11:18:43 AM EDT
You purchased an excellent weapon. Probably one of the best production 1911s on the market. It will serve you well and if you do ever have any problems with it Springfield will take good care of you. I have 2 (one for several years and probably close to 10,000 rounds with not malfunctions) and have never had any problems.

I will tell you this, mags can contribute more problems to a firearm than most can imagine. Do yourself a favor and get some wilson or CM mags. They will make your 1911 run better.
Link Posted: 7/20/2005 8:58:12 PM EDT
I'm of the oppostie opinion. I won't buy another Spingfield again. I had a 1911a1 loaded stainless steel. SHot low 9" from point of aim to point of impact at 15yds. Yes that is correct. Was sent back twice managed to finally shoot with 5" low poi/poa. Called several times in a professional courteous manner and situation was never resolved. Traded in on an Armalite AR.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 7:17:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VTwin60:
I'm of the oppostie opinion. I won't buy another Spingfield again. I had a 1911a1 loaded stainless steel. SHot low 9" from point of aim to point of impact at 15yds. Yes that is correct. Was sent back twice managed to finally shoot with 5" low poi/poa. Called several times in a professional courteous manner and situation was never resolved. Traded in on an Armalite AR.



So it is accurate and reliable, just accurately low.

Hope my new stainless doesn't have the same problem.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 9:09:25 PM EDT
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 4:03:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



Plain old USGI style is all I ever use anymore, it's not like the spring is going anywhere anyways. I figure if my 60 year old GI pistols have the same one they came with in them they must hold up pretty well. Replace the springs every 3 to 5 K and thats about it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 4:58:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



It's a 2 piece. That's the only part of my gun that isn't factory--swapped it out for an Ed Brown GI plug/guide before I put more than a box thru it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 7:35:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2005 8:57:45 PM EDT by M11293]

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



It's a 2 piece. That's the only part of my gun that isn't factory--swapped it out for an Ed Brown GI plug/guide before I put more than a box thru it.



www.edbrown.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00112.1.890689168618189541, which one of these would it be?






Springfield 1911-A1





S&W 686P



I tossed the cat in to show off the 5 megapixel Panasonic FZ5.. I thought this thread was worthless without pics.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 10:25:03 PM EDT
I do not like 1911's that are made outside the USA. Look at your slide and see if it is not made in Brazil?
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 10:56:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JCG4:
I do not like 1911's that are made outside the USA. Look at your slide and see if it is not made in Brazil?





- N20
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 11:36:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JCG4:
I do not like 1911's that are made outside the USA. Look at your slide and see if it is not made in Brazil?




My Springfield is American made. (blued Trophy Match)
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 3:33:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2005 3:47:45 AM EDT by SGB]
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 3:47:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2005 3:48:23 AM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By JCG4:
I do not like 1911's that are made outside the USA. Look at your slide and see if it is not made in Brazil?


dosen't really matter since it's Imbel that makes them and they make good stuff
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 6:16:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M11293:

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



It's a 2 piece. That's the only part of my gun that isn't factory--swapped it out for an Ed Brown GI plug/guide before I put more than a box thru it.



www.edbrown.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00112.1.890689168618189541, which one of these would it be?




you'll want part numbers 881 STD and 882 STD from the EB website
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 3:41:16 AM EDT
I carry one every day (Loaded, flat hard chromed by Metaloy) w/ CMC Power mags...owned the pistol for about 8 years now and nary a problem...
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 6:51:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M11293:

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



It's a 2 piece. That's the only part of my gun that isn't factory--swapped it out for an Ed Brown GI plug/guide before I put more than a box thru it.



www.edbrown.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00112.1.890689168618189541, which one of these would it be?


img326.imageshack.us/img326/6135/p10105438ag.th.jpg

img326.imageshack.us/img326/2343/p10105458zf.th.jpg

Springfield 1911-A1

img326.imageshack.us/img326/4708/p10105476ix.th.jpg

img326.imageshack.us/img326/5159/p10105480wv.th.jpg

S&W 686P

img326.imageshack.us/img326/4511/p10105345ur.th.jpg

I tossed the cat in to show off the 5 megapixel Panasonic FZ5.. I thought this thread was worthless without pics.



Hey! You stole my cat! It looks just like one of my cats.

I was planning on getting that exact model of the SA 1911, but I bid on a Champion on AuctionArms and actually one the bid. When I am done with it , it's going to look just like the loaded model except that it has a 4" barrel.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 6:54:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 6:56:00 PM EDT by Brian_in_Pullman]

Originally Posted By M11293:

Originally Posted By Colt45guy:

Originally Posted By ChupacabrA:
Does this model come with a FLGR, and if it does, is it a 1 piece or a 2 piece? I've been very seriously considering this exact gun myself but I read that the Full length guide rods are undesireable, especially the 2 piece ones. What type of guide rod brand/setup is nominal?



It's a 2 piece. That's the only part of my gun that isn't factory--swapped it out for an Ed Brown GI plug/guide before I put more than a box thru it.



www.edbrown.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00112.1.890689168618189541, which one of these would it be?



img326.imageshack.us/img326/6135/p10105438ag.th.jpg</a>

img326.imageshack.us/img326/2343/p10105458zf.th.jpg</a>

Springfield 1911-A1

img326.imageshack.us/img326/4708/p10105476ix.th.jpg</a>

img326.imageshack.us/img326/5159/p10105480wv.th.jpg</a>

S&W 686P

img326.imageshack.us/img326/4511/p10105345ur.th.jpg</a>

I tossed the cat in to show off the 5 megapixel Panasonic FZ5.. I thought this thread was worthless without pics.



Hey, you have 2 of the exact same handguns I have, which happen to be my 2 favorites. My SA loaded has been 100% reliable with the factory mags and lots of different ammo, except a FTE with a CCI shot shell. I have been very impressed with mine. I still like my 686P, but the 1911 is just so right

ETA: I don't have a cat though.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 12:37:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JCG4:
I do not like 1911's that are made outside the USA. Look at your slide and see if it is not made in Brazil?





blah blah blah.....
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 9:50:57 PM EDT
i bought a loaded springer and loved it so much i had to have another but this time in ww2 GI. i love both and both have been great to me i would recommend springfield to anyone.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 9:51:47 PM EDT
btw my loaded is made in usa but my GI is brazil. both have great quality.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 1:07:05 PM EDT
Some are imported?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 10:19:14 AM EDT
The frames are forged by Imbel in Brazil. Imbel is also a license manufacturer for FN for their FAL line.

They make good stuff.

The finish and assembly are done here.

I just ordered the exact same pistol from Mooneys, so I'm really looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:06:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:07:41 PM EDT by BrianNH]

Originally Posted By Parabellium:
btw my loaded is made in usa but my GI is brazil. both have great quality.



The lower end SA's are marked made in brazil because most or all of the machining is done there. I heard they are, or will be marking this on the inside of the dustcover of the pistols.

The higher end SA's, such as the Professional model frames are still made in Brazil, however, since the final machining is done in the US, they dont need to be marked "made in Brazil".
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