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Posted: 8/17/2004 4:12:21 AM EST
Any opinions on Springfield Armory's Mil-Spec 1911-A1? Quality, value, etc.?
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 4:27:31 AM EST
If you can get it for $400 or less, great deal. It is the gun I carry and over the last years I've updated it with thumb safety, beavertail, and commander hammer, thin grips. Great learning experience if thats your thing. If you just want a Milspec looking pistol, its great as well.

My pistol has always functioned VERY well. I can't think of a malfunction that has ever occurred that was not operator induced!

Seeing as my pistol is considerably less than stock at this point, if I wanted all those updates, I'd save a little longer and get a 'Loaded' model.

Link Posted: 8/17/2004 4:14:53 PM EST
I liked the SA mil-spec 1911 I had one for awhile and loved it. Unfortunately I sold it to finance another AR project.
If you can get one at a good price go for it, you'll like it!
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 6:22:35 PM EST
Might be a hit or miss.


If you want a reliable out of the box gun, this isnt for you IMO.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 7:45:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Timanator:
Might be a hit or miss.


If you want a reliable out of the box gun, this isnt for you IMO.



Agreed. I bought one last year, and it was a "miss." I'm looking to upgrade to the MC Operator by the end of the week...that, or another AR...
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 7:49:48 PM EST
My Mil-Spec's been perfect. Only jam was from a cheap 15-round magazine, and that was every shot, FTFeed.

My Loaded was good once I cleaned it.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 7:54:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By Timanator:
Might be a hit or miss.


If you want a reliable out of the box gun, this isnt for you IMO.



Alot of guys have had problems with the recoil springs. Springfield seems to like 16-pound recoil springs, when 18 is supposed to be normal.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 1:27:42 PM EST
Mine was problems with:

1. a loose rear sight

2. Bad QC causing FTE, (the ejector dont even touch the casing in the breach).

3. Finishing wear from rails hitting the slide in the first 10 shots.

4. Rough machining causing the Safty to be hard to engage, but easy to dis-engage.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 1:59:08 PM EST
My Defender (ca. 1986-1988) came with a bad parkerize job.

I sent it to Pachmayer for:

1) black Teflon
2) extended trigger
3) King's #109 sights
4) 3 pound trigger

Only problem was Pachmayer magazine "blew open" had a hard time getting it out.

I trashed the mag and it never happened again!

(2000-3000 rounds shot thru it to date...)

Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:50:30 PM EST
I have a mil-spec I bought used. I haven't had one iota of a problem with it in 10+ years. The sights leave a bit to be desired so I changed the rear out.

The 16lb recoil spring is news to me. Retail on these are approx $450-475 it seems. Getting one in the $425 range will take a bit of shopping, IMO. Good guns for the money!
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 2:26:32 AM EST
I got mine for $399. I got lucky finding a price like that. Though, for the trouble I've had with mine, they should refund my money.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:35:50 AM EST
If there is a problem, why would anyone not just send it back and let them fix it? They have the lifetime warranty after all. This is a valuable thing.

Example: I bought a new S&W sigma SW9M compact, not knowing any better, a few years ago, for under $300. The thing was a veritable P.O.S., badly made and it malfunctioned (FTF,FTE) all the time. I parked it in the gun cabinet, but then after a few years, a friend said send it in they (S&W) had a lifetime warranty on all their guns. So I did. Lo and behold, they had discontinued this model, the SW9M, so they send me a brand spanking new S&W 908 9mm at no cost to me. This was a well made pistol that retailed for $400-$450, and I had only paid about $250 for the SW9M in the first place.

The little S&W 908 9mm functioned flawlessly through 1,000 rounds of various ammo. Alas, I decided that I find Smith & Wesson products a bit bland, so I ended up trading it for a preban AR15 carbine (along with a postban AR- I was into Sig Sauer pistols at that point), but my point is that with a reputable manufacturer, the lifetime warranty like Springfield Armory offers is a good value and something that should be taken advantage of.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 7:30:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 7:31:58 AM EST by Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted By lonewolf223:
My Defender (ca. 1986-1988) came with a bad parkerize job.

I sent it to Pachmayer for:

1) black Teflon
2) extended trigger
3) King's #109 sights
4) 3 pound trigger

Only problem was Pachmayer magazine "blew open" had a hard time getting it out.

I trashed the mag and it never happened again!

(2000-3000 rounds shot thru it to date...)



my SA "DEFENDER" was bought back in 1989 and the problems were:

*weak factory recoil spring = I replaced with a standard COLT 18 lb spring]
*bad factory magazines, soft metal that deformed easily [replaced with USGI contract mags]
*poor quality parkerizing, looked un-even = had pistol re-parkerized a WWII grey / green color


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