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Posted: 10/25/2004 6:24:10 PM EST
Alright handgun Gurus, I know this has been gone over before, but could I get a refresher on shooting .380 in a .357. From what I understand it's OK to shoot .380 in a .357 revolver. My father in law called and wants to know if he can shoot .380 in his .357 Desert Eagle. I thought he probably couldn't because the action may not cycle completely. Before he goes out and KBs his $900 pistol, can you guys set us straight. Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
2IDdoc
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:35:50 PM EST
.38 in a .357 revolver = ok.
.380 ACP in a .357 revolver = no go.

I dont think .38's will work in a DE though.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:35:53 PM EST
No. Sometimes you can shoot .38 super in a .357, but never .380, unless its a Medusa or similar weapon. You could get a single action chambered for it, you would need a new cylinder.


And the DE is a finicky weapon as it is, this wouldn't function. Hell, it wouldn't headspace.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 9:35:09 PM EST
Why would you want to shoot .380 in a .357 when .38 special is so abundant and cheap?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:28:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:59:27 AM EST
Thanks for the advice gentlemen,and I do use that term loosely. Me thinks we'll be sticking to shooting the bullets God intended us to fire out of whatever firearm we are using from now on.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 11:49:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Getsome:
Why would you want to shoot .380 in a .357 when .38 special is so abundant and cheap?



Because, who doesn't want a 10" .380? Easy for CCW.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 3:32:32 PM EST
Maybe if you had half moon clips. Seriously, a .380, like a 9mm or most other hand gun rounds are a rim less case, it'd fall right through a revolver. Revolvers made to shoot 9mm and .45's have to use clips to hold the bullet in place.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:14:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Maybe if you had half moon clips. Seriously, a .380, like a 9mm or most other hand gun rounds are a rim less case, it'd fall right through a revolver. Revolvers made to shoot 9mm and .45's have to use clips to hold the bullet in place.



The full or half moon clips aid in ejecting the rounds in 45 & 9mm revolvers, they don't hold them in place. In those revovlers the bullet headspaces on the cylinder wall. You can shoot a 45acp revolver without moon clips you just can't eject the cases using the star extractor. There is nothing for it to grab onto. In my 1917 S&W 45acp, I used a pen to pop on the spent casings, when I didn't use moon clips. Most revolvers use what is called a straight wall rimmed case, ie. 32 & 38ws, 45 Colt, 38 special, 357 & 44 magnum. The star extractor (not sure extractor is correct term) pushes on the rims of the cases to eject them out of the cylinder.

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:20:30 PM EST
You can use moon clips to headspace, its common when people shoot their 10mm M610 with .40s.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:19:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
You can use moon clips to headspace, its common when people shoot their 10mm M610 with .40s.



The early M1917's were bored right through and the issue half-moon clips were required to headspace. After the first batch, they chambered them the same way autos are chambered so the case headspaces on the mouth. That way you could use the revolver without clips in a battlefield emergency.

Since then, nearly all revolvers chambered in auto cartridges headspace on the mouth, mainly for accuracy. Some conversions of the Webely revolver to .45ACP, and using the .40 in the 610, are good examples of revovlers that need to use the clip for headspacing. The S&W 547 9mm doesn't use clips, headspaces on the mouth and ejects with an extractor spedifically designed for rimless ammo. No clips used at all.

Ross
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