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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:20:05 PM EST
The topic pretty much says all––I would like to get a dot scope on my M41, but not lose the iron sight capability. I should also add that I would prefer a decent dot scope, not one of those $30 Wal Mart ones.
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 2:08:03 AM EST
Buy a second Barrel.
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 4:28:12 AM EST
I recommend Clark's Team Challenger barrel; no rear strap (improves reliability) and Picatinney milled top.

There's a Bully Barrel that's supposed to be accurate, too.

If you're talking about irons and dot simultaneously on the same barrel, I see that as similar to asking about see throughs on a M-94 .30-30 in case the 4-16x50 varmint scope craps out; no there's no GOOD way.
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 5:10:48 PM EST
I have a red dot on my 41 & can still use the iron sights. I don't use them, but I can if I wanted to.
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 5:40:30 PM EST
I think Aimtech made a grip panel mount.
It puts the scope pretty high above the bore though.
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 9:32:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By frog5215:
I recommend Clark's Team Challenger barrel; no rear strap (improves reliability) and Picatinney milled top.


I think a setup like that is probably the best and then I can go back to the regular barrel to use iron sights because the barrels are quite easy to change.

What's the deal with the lack of a rear strap improving reliability? Is that really important?
Link Posted: 10/23/2009 2:46:02 AM EST
All the problems I ever had with a 41 were FTEs. Removing the topstrap pretty much eliminates this.
Link Posted: 10/23/2009 3:44:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By frog5215:
All the problems I ever had with a 41 were FTEs. Removing the topstrap pretty much eliminates this.

I know this shouldn't matter but 41's with a barrel that has no top strap look goofy as hell to me. That and I personally would rather have a reddot further back by the rear anyway.

Link Posted: 10/23/2009 9:13:22 AM EST
Are there any pictures floating around of a configuration like that? I'm having trouble visualizing it, but it does sound sort of awkward.
Link Posted: 10/25/2009 5:32:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2009 2:23:43 PM EST by frog5215]
I'll see if I can get my kid to help out.



But here's the link to Bully with the same type deal.

http://www.bullybarrel.ray-vin.com/frbarrels.htm

And Clark's.

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/22pts.htm

Link Posted: 11/1/2009 5:18:52 AM EST
Thanks for the help. I have to see whether I want to spend the money on a dedicated scope barrel. If I don't want to, what are the available mounts for the regular barrel? The Weigand one requires removal of the rear sight––which ones do not? I would prefer not to have to remove the rear sight even if I can't use it, that way I can take the scope on and off to use the iron sights if I go that way.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:17:38 AM EST
You can probably get the barrel tapped for a picatinney rail. Whether you can still see sights without removing the rail is doubtful.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 2:26:02 AM EST
If you don't need to use iron sights and red dot nearly simultaneously, you can mount the red dot in QD mounts on a Weaver or Picatiny rail. That way you can quickly pop off the scope while retaining zero. I have a Weaver 2x scope in Warne QD mounts on my .500 PC Hunter. I can quickly remove or replace the scope to use iron or scope.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 1:54:02 PM EST
Get your barrel drilled and tapped for a Ruger 10/22 base. There are dozens of different bases available including picatinny bases that you can use the factory sights over. I did that and run a Burris mini red dot on mine that can be easily removed and replaced without zero shift.
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