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Posted: 1/3/2011 12:31:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2011 12:32:57 PM EDT by Rampant_Colt]
Is this stuff the same exact thing as Golden Saber??
What's the difference?


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Link Posted: 1/4/2011 10:03:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2011 10:06:15 AM EDT by RedFalconBill]
It is the original Golden Saber ammo in new packaging.

Most of the newer GS ammo I see is bonded.

The original GS ammo had core separation issues with automobile glass and sheet steel, though the heavier bullet (147gr 9x19, 180gr .40S&W, 230gr .45acp) are ok.
Link Posted: 1/4/2011 2:01:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2011 2:01:45 PM EDT by SevenMMmag]
looking at their specs on the remington website, the 9mm HD ultimate seems like it is the same as the 9mm 124gr Golden Saber, but not the 9mm 124gr +P Golden Saber
Link Posted: 1/9/2011 7:03:45 AM EDT
I found out that R-P "HD Ultimate" ammo is less costly because they do not use sealed cases or flash-suppressed powders like Golden Saber.
Link Posted: 1/9/2011 8:34:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2011 5:14:29 AM EDT by Coltman77]
Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
I found out that R-P "HD Ultimate" ammo is less costly because they do not use sealed cases or flash-suppressed powders like Golden Saber.


Great information. Thanks for posting.

Somehow I'm not real surprised, as that explains the price difference.
Link Posted: 1/9/2011 4:43:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
I found out that R-P "HD Ultimate" ammo is less costly because they do not use sealed cases or flash-suppressed powders like Golden Saber.


Where did you find this out?
Link Posted: 1/10/2011 5:10:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sj586:
Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
I found out that R-P "HD Ultimate" ammo is less costly because they do not use sealed cases or flash-suppressed powders like Golden Saber.


Where did you find this out?


Curious about that too. Marketing an ammo for HD, that might very well be used in a low light situation with a non flash-suppressed powder, is doing a disservice to their customers. IMO.
Link Posted: 1/29/2011 4:13:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sj586:
Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
I found out that R-P "HD Ultimate" ammo is less costly because they do not use sealed cases or flash-suppressed powders like Golden Saber.
Where did you find this out?
Remington replied to my email (info@remington.com)

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:06:45 AM EDT
There was a thread on this a few months ago. And yes, the "ultimate defense" is inferior to the standard golden saber. Some of it looks like it was swept up from the factory floor. YMMV

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Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:03:52 AM EDT
There was a thread on this a few months ago. And yes, the "ultimate defense" is inferior to the standard golden saber. Some of it looks like it was swept up from the factory floor. YMMV

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