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Posted: 10/24/2013 7:23:25 AM EST
I currently own a G19, my one and only auto-pistol. I've been very happy with it and shoot some gun games with it and it does well for me. I like the price of 9mm ammo, either reloaded or store bought, and like the capacity of my 19. That being said: I need help talking me out of a G21. All I ever hear is how much people like them (accurate, soft shooting 45, their best shooting Glock, etc) and I need to hear all the downsides. I've been eyeballing one and I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to say no much longer.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:25:31 AM EST
The downsides are ammo cost and it's a little too big. I have large hands, but the G21 is just a little bigger than I prefer.

Get yourself a G21sf.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:48:53 AM EST
Had one and sold it after one range trip.
Was just to wide of a grip, didn't like it at all.
I'm sure a sf or gen4 would be better
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:57:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By echofivekilo:
The downsides are ammo cost and it's a little too big. I have large hands, but the G21 is just a little bigger than I prefer.

Get yourself a G21sf.
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A SF is what I was looking at.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 8:02:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:


A SF is what I was looking at.
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
Originally Posted By echofivekilo:
The downsides are ammo cost and it's a little too big. I have large hands, but the G21 is just a little bigger than I prefer.

Get yourself a G21sf.


A SF is what I was looking at.

I would not or could not talk you out of a G21sf.

Do it, do it now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 8:22:38 AM EST
Agree with the comment above. The G21 SF is a great firearm and one i would like to add to my collection. My brother curently has one and I really enjoy shooting it plus i am able to find .45 pretty easily.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 8:25:53 AM EST
My 21C is favorite Glock. It's a tack driver and so smooth
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 8:33:45 AM EST
This may be counterproductive, but you should buy a Gen 4. You'll be happy you did!

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:05:17 AM EST
Since you wanted to be talked out of it, I'll try.

Don't get a G21, because you could get one of these:
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:27:03 AM EST
The grip is big, mainly use my G21 for suppressed fun, as Kriss 30rd mags are a blast.

Shooting cast reloads (wolf barrel) so Im shooting for less than .22lr prices these days.

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:45:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:08:49 AM EST
....................ah............ get a G21gen4 and don't look back, nothing to be a shamed of......

... it's all good!

~g
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:13:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AJE:
Originally Posted By echofivekilo:
The downsides are ammo cost and it's a little too big. I have large hands, but the G21 is just a little bigger than I prefer.

Get yourself a G21sf. gen 4 21


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I keep forgetting Gen4 exists.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:24:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2013 10:26:10 AM EST by coloradocopper]
+1 on a Gen 4. The SF was a major step up from the GIANT 21 grip, but you would be very happy with a Gen4.

Also look at the 36. Very comfy in the hand and still decent capacity.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:37:55 AM EST
I just picked up a 21sf yesterday so no I can't talk you out of it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:39:56 AM EST
21 SF was my duty gun when I was a cop, it is still my favorite .45, and I have a lot of them. Ammo cost is the only downside.This would be the one gun I would keep if I could only have one handgun.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:48:24 AM EST
21 sf is the shit. Then a 30s and you'll be happy forever.

Oh yea chicks dig them too
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:12:59 AM EST
I am issued a G21. I personally own a 21SF. I want a Gen 4 G21.

I'm not the one to talk you out of it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:24:44 AM EST
Not helping. I also just found out my LGS has Gen4 G21s in stock.

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Link Posted: 10/24/2013 12:13:18 PM EST
I tried out a Gen 4 G21 the other day.

It shot nice and I really liked the gun.
When I was thinking of what I would use it for, I have other guns that are better suited for hunting, self defense and competition so I passed on it because it would probably just become a safe queen.

If I had a place to shoot bowling pin competitions, then I could justify it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 12:50:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
Not helping. I also just found out my LGS has Gen4 G21s in stock.

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WTF you waiting for?

Great gun, you weren't really expecting people to talk you out of it were you? Bahahaha fat chance!

~g
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 12:57:27 PM EST
I vote for G21 Gen4.

They are a bit large in the hand and buying ammo sucks but it is just a fun cartridge to shoot. And yes they are very accurate. Interestingly Massad Ayoob has said the most accuracy he has achieved with a Glock was with the G30 I've taken my G21 Gen4 to a few training classes, it's almost boring how reliable it was.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 2:06:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By safeactionjackson:


WTF you waiting for?

Great gun, you weren't really expecting people to talk you out of it were you? Bahahaha fat chance!

~g
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
Not helping. I also just found out my LGS has Gen4 G21s in stock.

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WTF you waiting for?

Great gun, you weren't really expecting people to talk you out of it were you? Bahahaha fat chance!

~g


Well, I could hope.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 2:10:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
Okay, here ya go.... Be a man and step-up to the G20.

There ya go.

After that, get a G21.
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This.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 2:11:30 PM EST
I have a 21 Gen 4 and a 30S. Get a 30S. Perfectly balanced, and can use 21 mags. Doesn't feel too big, it feels just right. You can find one if you look around. Took me a few weeks until I found one at buds. If you buy a 30S and don't like it, I'll trade you for my 21. :o)
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 4:14:30 PM EST
Not going to talk you out of it either. Sold off my 1911 and bought one a year ago and havent looked back.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 4:52:35 PM EST
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This.
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
Okay, here ya go.... Be a man and step-up to the G20.

There ya go.

After that, get a G21.


This.


And this too!

Something tells me you asked for help on the wrong forum!
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 5:14:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 5:28:32 PM EST
I'm not the person to ask to talk you out of a G21.



I've come to the realization, it's probably one of, if not my favorite pistol!

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:28:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2013 6:31:55 PM EST by LMTRocks]
What is this "talk me out of a G21" that you refer to?

Blasphemy!

I'm getting a RTF2 NiBX that will house a factory GLOCK 21 threaded barrel that will also work on my suppressor that I just paid for today (so I'll be photographing it in August or September next year)....

We need pics when the gun follows you home.

Stop delaying.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:41:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:10:01 PM EST
Don't overlook the 30. You may like it better.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:37:57 PM EST
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Get both... (SF of course)
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 7:47:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By King_Mud:
I currently own a G19, my one and only auto-pistol. I've been very happy with it and shoot some gun games with it and it does well for me. I like the price of 9mm ammo, either reloaded or store bought, and like the capacity of my 19. That being said: I need help talking me out of a G21. All I ever hear is how much people like them (accurate, soft shooting 45, their best shooting Glock, etc) and I need to hear all the downsides. I've been eyeballing one and I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to say no much longer.
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I have had a G21 for years and have nothing bad to say about it and a lot of good. It is *simple*, reliable, and reasonably accurate. It's comfortable in my hands and shoots well. Recoil is reasonable and there is no need to baby it. I have not tried the SF (slim frame) but I do not doubt it is a great gun too. BTW, I have a G17, G19, G21, and G27 and I shoot them all. I prefer the G21, not because of any strong personal feelings on caliber, but because it's what I am most comfortable with. I have a half dozen 33rd mags that fit the G17 and the G19, so it is pretty convenient to take them already loaded to the range along with their factory mags. I can shoot 200 rds without reloading. That's convenient for sure but I still like the G21 best.

I know you did not ask about other guns but I got a .22lr Buck Mark and hands down it is the best out-of-the-box pistol I have ever bought. Cheap to shoot, feels superb in the hands, and it's a tackdriver. The only thing I don't like is that the owner's manual says to not tear it down all the way for cleaning.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:47:17 PM EST
I've had a Gen 2 for years. It will reliably shoot pine cones out of trees (don't panic - taking the Jeeps way out in the mountains of Cali). Fits my hands great. I did remove the adjustable rear sight because I did not like how it could get caught on things. It is my "plan A" gun. Stop thinking and go for it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:51:36 PM EST
I also am not the person to talk you out of it.I have a 21SF that has a grip reduction done to it.The thing is accurate and soft shooting.Im considering getting a holster so I can CCW it.You cant go wrong with a Glock21 SF.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 1:39:49 PM EST
Can't help you buddy, it is not only my favorite handgun I own, but my favorite firearm I own overall. It's been on my hip every day since I bought it, and comes to every range session with me. At is point, I'm saving up to buy another, gonna go with a gen 4 this time

Never caused an issue, been shot by me, and 4 brand new to shooting female shooters
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 2:10:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By thecreeper23:
Since you wanted to be talked out of it, I'll try.

Don't get a G21, because you could get one of these:
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If you want to really appreciate a G21, shoot it back to back with a USP. You'll smile knowing you saved $300 and have a better gun.

Link Posted: 10/25/2013 2:27:51 PM EST
I'll give the unfiltered unbiased opinion of a non-Glock person.

The only Glock I liked to shoot was a G20. The owner was lucky if he got a one foot pattern at 20 yards.
I was shooting golf ball sized groups. Recoil wasn't bad. Trigger was crap because some people shouldn't work on their own guns.
I could damn near write a happy face in the target. The accuracy was on par with my Commander and that's high praise.

If i needed a general purpose piece of field artillery I'd get a G20 with an aftermarket barrel.

Forget about the G21, Give the G20 a test drive.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 3:41:18 PM EST
It will lead you to a G30 series. I also own and carry a 30sf.
Man do I dig that pistol ... Challenges my G19 for belt time.

And 45 is coming down and more available.

It's the All-American bullet.

Link Posted: 10/25/2013 3:44:48 PM EST
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If you want to really appreciate a G21, shoot it back to back with a USP. You'll smile knowing you saved $300 and have a better gun.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/Bram556/Gen421.jpg
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Originally Posted By thecreeper23:
Since you wanted to be talked out of it, I'll try.

Don't get a G21, because you could get one of these:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/HK_USP_45_surrounded_by_.45_caliber_Hornady_TAP_(%2BP)_jacketed_hollow_point_rounds.jpg


If you want to really appreciate a G21, shoot it back to back with a USP. You'll smile knowing you saved $300 and have a better gun.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/Bram556/Gen421.jpg

Oooh, the Scarface money shot!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:22:29 AM EST
I have 4 Glock G21's. Two G4 and 2 G3SF. Also have a G30SF. Like them all. I also have a FN FNX 45 which is the best 45 I own. The 15 round mag plus cock and lock, de-cocker and grip slimmer than a G4 G21. Accuracy is fantastic.


I also own 3 G20's which I use the G20G4 as my daily CCW.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:17:06 AM EST
Here's your reason if you're willing to spend more:

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:16:41 PM EST
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Here's your reason if you're willing to spend more:

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Derp. Get the 21 and you can put those 2 errant rounds in the magazine.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:48:25 PM EST
i love my 21
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:14:08 PM EST
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Derp. Get the 21 and you can put those 2 errant rounds in the magazine.
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Originally Posted By N4sty_N4te:
Here's your reason if you're willing to spend more:

http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2013/02/Heckler-Koch-HK45-Tactical_001.jpg


Derp. Get the 21 and you can put those 2 errant rounds in the magazine.




Truthfully, I'm just not a HK guy. My wife has a P30L and I just don't care for it.

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Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:18:34 PM EST
For my G21 (which I have had for 20 years and simply cannot bring myself to even consider parting with) I have the following:

Threaded barrel for my .45 Osprey + 8 13rd mags
An entire Lone Wolf threaded 10mm SS upper & 8 G20 15rd mags
An AA .22 conversion kit + 6 mags
And a theaded MechTech CCU carbine convesrion in .45 ACP + 8 Kriss 30 rd mags

I am trying desperatly to find a reason not to pick up a MechTech upper in 10mm. It's getting harder every day. So far the only reason I can come up with is that I have no more room in my shooting bag for anything else. This would be the same range bag that I had to replace because all I can fit in it are the G21 and accessories, so now I have to carry two range bags if I intend to shoot anything other than the G21 or a variant of it.

Don't do it. It can rapidly become a disease, one which can grow to require it's own safe, for Christ's sake! It truly is my most versatile and useful handgun. BTW, I also quite often CCW a G30. I got it bad for the big Glocks!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:49:55 PM EST
Bought one tonight , they didn't have black but they had OD and FDE and I came home with the FDE one, So far I like it,


Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:14:57 PM EST
Between the sizes, is the gen 4 with the small backstrap about the same size as a 21sf or smaller/larger?

I fondled my dads 21 and overall i like it, it was too big to be comfy in my hands.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:30:53 PM EST
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Between the sizes, is the gen 4 with the small backstrap about the same size as a 21sf or smaller/larger?

I fondled my dads 21 and overall i like it, it was too big to be comfy in my hands.
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To me the gen 4 with no back strap felt smaller compared to the SF although they are supposed to be the same.
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