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Posted: 8/13/2007 4:21:33 PM EDT
My wife has agreed to give me $250 towards a new pistol for my b-day in October. The additional money will likely come from selling my little used Ruger MKIII. It will be used on the range, occasional carry, and possibly for some IPSC matches. There are two that I'm looking at, both are approx $450-$500.

The two that I'm looking at are a Charles Daly Hi-Power in 9mm, and am Armscor 1911A1 in double stack 9mm. I'm not sure who makes the Charles Daly models these days, but I do know that Armscor is the same company that makes Rock Island Armory 1911s.

What's everyone's opinion on which to get?
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 4:25:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 4:31:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
i have yet to see a charles daly anything that held up to any kind of regular shooting.

the armscor pistols are rough but not a bad place to start a build. that said i haven't seen many 9mm 1911's that ran worth a damn.

personally i'd keep looking. glocks or xd's can both be had in that range and both are better guns.


Agreed. And this from a 1911 guy.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 5:31:50 PM EDT
+1 on what was said before.

Also if you are looking for a double-stack 9mm with a frame mounted safety I would suggest a version of the CZ75. It falls within your budget range.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 5:34:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
glocks or xd's can both be had in that range and both are better guns.


I already have an XD9 Tactical and a S&W M&P-9. I'm looking for something different.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:08:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 6:09:31 AM EDT by ken_mays]
These should all be available in your price range, and I would personally buy any of these before I ever considered a CD or a Armscor.

FN P9 or P40
Ruger anything
EAA Witness
CZ-75
Stoeger Cougar
SIGPro in 9 or .40
S&W 3rd gen (5906, etc)

The Charles Daly High Power is basically a Hungary-made FEG.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:12:21 AM EDT
I have a CD 1911. Nothing but trouble. After much polishing and tinkering and mag experimentation it will feed ball ammo reliably. It may or not feed JHPs. I do not trust the gun even though I have had it for 6 years.

My advice is stay away from CD handguns. Others may give you their advice.

I know nothing of the Armscor other than seeing them in magazines.

For 500$ you can pick up a XD or Glock that will be reliable.

Before I got either of the handguns you listed, I would also look at Ruger semis.

Heck, I got my Walther P99 9mm for 489$ by shopping around.

You could also pick up a Beretta 92 in your price range. I got one of mine, hand select used for 345$ with an extra mag.

all above is my opinion.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:56:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 12:38:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
i have yet to see a charles daly anything that held up to any kind of regular shooting.

the armscor pistols are rough but not a bad place to start a build. that said i haven't seen many 9mm 1911's that ran worth a damn.

personally i'd keep looking. glocks or xd's can both be had in that range and both are better guns.




Lots of good advice there, IMO....................
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:38:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
CZ75 the best of both worlds and excellent customer service.

+1

I'm thinking of one myself.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:32:02 PM EDT
CZ-75s are hard to beat at ANY price.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:10:37 PM EDT
Keep what you have, take the $250 and put it in a jar.

Add change or cash whenever you have extra.

Then when you find something that you really want buy it.

A really BHP or good quality 1911 will pop up for a good price when you have the money.

IHMO, a quality used gun is better than a cheap quality new gun.

Steve
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:12:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:18:30 PM EDT
I've made many mistakes when buying firearms. But the mistake I find the most frustrating after purchasing a firearm is buying a cheap gun. In my opinion do not buy either one. Who knows where Charles Daly will be next year. A buddy came to me 5 months ago b/c he wanted to buy a 1911. He didn't want to spend that much and mentioned Rock Island. I told him to spend the extra 125.00-175.00 and buy an A1 1911 from Springfield and we'll build it up over a year. He did not take my advice and now he hates the gun. Even S&W make good, not great, entry 1911. You can look here at AR-15 and Gunbroker.com to see if you can find a used .38 super. Parts are very easy to find. If you buy used than you can make it a project to rebuild the trigger, barrel, guide rod, mag well...
I'd go with .38 super - Good luck - hope that helps
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