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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:11:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2020 6:12:29 PM EST by Soopreme]
After a month wait I just got an email from KKM with my tracking number for my 19.5 barrel and comp. woot!

Btw: I took the 19.5 with the silencerco barrel to the range today and it ate everything I fed it. Cheap 115gr pmc, federal 124gr and 147 syntech match training ammo. Groups were pretty damn tight also. Very pleased.

Going to take @AKSU advice and shoot a few more rounds through this until the PMM comp comes in to break it in. Most likely do the same with the KKM barrel as well.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 9:51:31 PM EST
I’ve got the gen 3 KKM, had some issues when shooting WWB 115. Swapped the RSA for a 15#, still occasionally had an issue with the 115s. Now I just shoot 124 WWB through it. Zero issues with that combo.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 11:43:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bg10:
I’ve got the gen 3 KKM, had some issues when shooting WWB 115. Swapped the RSA for a 15#, still occasionally had an issue with the 115s. Now I just shoot 124 WWB through it. Zero issues with that combo.
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Sounds like 124gr is the sweet spot with the KKM. Going to have to load up on 124gr... now if I can just find some...
Link Posted: 8/16/2020 11:46:30 AM EST
I just realized how long it’s been since I stirred the shit up in this thread...



Eat your hearts out, Glockbois Oh, and it’s my new EDC CCW pistol:



https://www.instagram.com/p/CDz3S3npt3u/?igshid=1rj5cqp7uvhwe

(All in good fun gents )
Link Posted: 8/17/2020 3:19:20 PM EST
Went over to the Zev Duty slide from the hex slide.  I like the simplicity.







Link Posted: 8/17/2020 5:03:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/17/2020 7:21:22 PM EST by Soopreme]
My KKM barrel and comp came in for my 19.5 after about a month wait. Also got the NDZ 13lb spring as well. Can’t wait to take it out this weekend. Just needs a Magwell.



Link Posted: 8/19/2020 8:55:22 PM EST
Picked up my 19x today. Did a little switcharoo cause I’m bored. 19x is being sent off to ATEI tomorrow for a pro cut.



Link Posted: 9/4/2020 6:12:38 PM EST
Range report:

Federal Aluminum case 115gr - no issues cycling
PMC Bronze 124gr - no issues cycling
Speer Lawman 147gr - no issues cycling.

G19 Gen 5
KKM Barrel and compensator
NDZ 13lb Recoil Spring

Happy camper here.

Link Posted: 9/4/2020 10:20:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/4/2020 10:25:23 PM EST by 135Patriots]
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Originally Posted By Soopreme:
Range report:

Federal Aluminum case 115gr - no issues cycling
PMC Bronze 124gr - no issues cycling
Speer Lawman 147gr - no issues cycling.

G19 Gen 5
KKM Barrel and compensator
NDZ 13lb Recoil Spring

Happy camper here.

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That NDZ guide rod + 13lb spring is the sweet spot IMO. Gets a Roland about as reliable as it can be without battering the frame or having return to battery issues.

ETA you should go to all peanut butter FDE. Imo.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 8:24:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 8:28:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 8:52:24 AM EST
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ETA you should go to all peanut butter FDE. Imo.
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yes! this is the way
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:43:08 PM EST
I'm thinking about jumping back into the Roland game. While very nice, carrying my G19 with TLR7 appendix in a Tier 1 Agis is a little too bulky and uncomfortable for comfortable, totally print free carry. My girlfriend just bought a G48, and I think I'm going to get one for the appendix deep concealment role. I recall from when I had my G19 set up as a Roland, carrying at 4 o'clock was no problem.

What are the preferred holsters these days? Also, it looks like TBRC is no longer in business. What are the best barrels/comps these days? I will probably go KKM for one, but would like the other to be suppressor compatible, since I intend to eventually buy a pistol can if I decide I like my 22lr can enough.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 11:11:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:

@KTM300XCW

Who did your slide?

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Originally Posted By KTM300XCW:


I went with the SLR magwell on my Gen 5 and really like how it looks and functions. It also serves to push my fingers a little north on the grip which helps me. I have average sized hands. If yours are large, pushing your fingers up on the grip may not be a good thing.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/241166/20200331_123244_jpg-1343557.JPG

@KTM300XCW

Who did your slide?



@lancelot Jagerwerks (sp) did both my 19.4 and 19.5. I've been very happy with the work and turnaround time.
Link Posted: 9/11/2020 8:02:03 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2020 8:41:06 AM EST
I have a failure to eject every once in awhile with 115 grainers so thought I would try a NDZ 13 # spring. NDZ says the stock Gen. 4 spring is 18 #. Is this true, I thought it was 15#.
Link Posted: 9/11/2020 9:02:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KTM300XCW:
NDZ says the stock Gen. 4 spring is 18 #. Is this true, I thought it was 15#.
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I believe G19s are 18# G17s are 17#
Link Posted: 9/11/2020 12:12:53 PM EST
19.5 BFG Rolando Speciale



Link Posted: 9/12/2020 7:29:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2020 7:29:17 AM EST by AWZ1287]
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I like that bfg, it looks good.
Link Posted: 9/12/2020 10:36:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2020 10:36:56 AM EST by Soopreme]
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Originally Posted By AWZ1287:


I like that bfg, it looks good.
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Thanks! Glock is slacking on getting the ODG version out so this will do for now.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 2:09:30 AM EST
For those who have occasional reliability problems with their RS, you may be interested in this article I wrote explaining reliability of compensated pistols in simple layman’s terms:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-to-ensure-reliable-performance-in-compensated-semi-auto-pistols/

TL:DR - Use higher power +P/NATO loads to make sure your comped pistol runs like a sewing machine
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 7:04:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:
For those who have occasional reliability problems with their RS, you may be interested in this article I wrote explaining reliability of compensated pistols in simple layman’s terms:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-to-ensure-reliable-performance-in-compensated-semi-auto-pistols/

TL:DR - Use higher power +P/NATO loads to make sure your comped pistol runs like a sewing machine
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Pretty sure that’s already been covered lol
Link Posted: 9/17/2020 4:41:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2020 4:42:04 AM EST by Rudukai13]
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Originally Posted By Soopreme:


Pretty sure that’s already been covered lol
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:
For those who have occasional reliability problems with their RS, you may be interested in this article I wrote explaining reliability of compensated pistols in simple layman’s terms:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/how-to-ensure-reliable-performance-in-compensated-semi-auto-pistols/

TL:DR - Use higher power +P/NATO loads to make sure your comped pistol runs like a sewing machine


Pretty sure that’s already been covered lol


Seems to keep coming up every once in a while, doesn’t hurt to reiterate it for those who won’t or haven’t read all 39 pages of this thread
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 10:04:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
I'm thinking about jumping back into the Roland game. While very nice, carrying my G19 with TLR7 appendix in a Tier 1 Agis is a little too bulky and uncomfortable for comfortable, totally print free carry. My girlfriend just bought a G48, and I think I'm going to get one for the appendix deep concealment role. I recall from when I had my G19 set up as a Roland, carrying at 4 o'clock was no problem.

What are the preferred holsters these days? Also, it looks like TBRC is no longer in business. What are the best barrels/comps these days? I will probably go KKM for one, but would like the other to be suppressor compatible, since I intend to eventually buy a pistol can if I decide I like my 22lr can enough.
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I’m happy with my KKM setup.

As far as holsters for my Roland I like Phlstr, but I carry mine AIWB.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 1:32:07 PM EST
I spent a lot of money last week... Attachment Attached File

Now i need to break out the wood burner!
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 1:39:43 PM EST
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I spent a lot of money last week... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/74831/20200921_121028_jpg-1601458.JPG
Now i need to break out the wood burner!
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shes purtty. atei do the slide work?
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 2:34:23 PM EST
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shes purtty. atei do the slide work?
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Yeah, I had them do two G19s a few years ago. When the TLR7 came out I sold my X300 and KKM comp barrel, and set them both up for concealed carry. Always kind of regretted it. One of my TLR7's failed, which caused me to think about the X300 again.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 2:39:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:

Yeah, I had them do two G19s a few years ago. When the TLR7 came out I sold my X300 and KKM comp barrel, and set them both up for concealed carry. Always kind of regretted it. One of my TLR7's failed, which caused me to think about the X300 again.
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how did it fail on you? i have a TLR light on my M&P but i cant remember which model. ive had it for just about 8 years now without issues. but i still think the x300 is superior in all aspects except size.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 9:22:44 AM EST
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how did it fail on you? i have a TLR light on my M&P but i cant remember which model. ive had it for just about 8 years now without issues. but i still think the x300 is superior in all aspects except size.
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It started flickering, a well known problem on early TLR7s. I just need to get around to sending in to customer service. My other one works fine.
Link Posted: 9/24/2020 2:57:24 PM EST
Baby Fauxland and Roland

Link Posted: 10/5/2020 8:51:09 PM EST
Well, I joined the "almost" a Roland special club with this. Gen 3 G19, RMR, KKM barrel/comp/Ameriglo. Lower has the Glock 3.5 minus connector with the Wolfe springs. Battle Werx did the RMR milling and it is tight.

What is missing is the correct light, front serrations and grip work. Kind of doubt I will have the frame work done - living in CA I can not put this on my CCW so this will be a range/desert toy. I screwed up by not getting the serrations done at same time as the RMR. Live and learn.

Tomorrow is Range day. Looking forward to finally taking it out.

Link Posted: 10/8/2020 5:06:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2020 7:26:46 AM EST by AKSU]
Stock recoil springs and all function 100% with 124 NATO, 147 and 147 +P.





Link Posted: 10/10/2020 6:25:27 AM EST


I've been thinking about the noblex/docter for my 43, any experience out there with it?

Link Posted: 10/10/2020 9:17:12 AM EST
Seen a few reports of that mini Docter optic breaking but havent seen one come through a class or handled one in person yet.  I do like the idea behind it though
Link Posted: 11/18/2020 6:27:14 PM EST
I really picked the worst time to start a build, but here is where I'm at so far. KKM + comp is in the mail.

I sat on a Gen 5 MOS slide and watched seven in stock disappear overnight. I really don't want to be without my slide for months while waiting during current lead times for slide milling. I might get an aftermarket slide or just wait until the Gen 5 MOS slides are back in stock.

Link Posted: 11/20/2020 12:35:21 PM EST
How do you guys like the PMM comp vs the KKM?  I have a 19 Gen 5 and am debating another KKM or go another direction.
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 12:47:57 AM EST
My contribution:










Link Posted: 11/23/2020 3:32:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 6:45:00 PM EST
What is the correct magwell for the Roland? Or is it user choice?

Where I'm at now -

Link Posted: 11/23/2020 7:41:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar:
What is the correct magwell for the Roland? Or is it user choice?

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Raven Concealment Freya.

Link Posted: 11/23/2020 8:05:37 PM EST
@Xhado

Thanks!
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 9:06:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar:
What is the correct magwell for the Roland? Or is it user choice?

Where I'm at now -

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50639492676_833aff27cf_k.jpg
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Also note that it was a Gen 3 (and possibly the 4).

In your case, whatever works for you.
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 9:29:30 PM EST
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Also note that it was a Gen 3 (and possibly the 4).

In your case, whatever works for you.
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Yea, it's full-blown fauxland with a Gen 5 frame and G45 slide. I just wanted to get as close as possible with a Gen 5. Looks like I'll have to go ZEV though just by limited options and stock.

Link Posted: 11/23/2020 10:13:52 PM EST
@Pleaforwar
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Yea, it's full-blown fauxland with a Gen 5 frame and G45 slide. I just wanted to get as close as possible with a Gen 5. Looks like I'll have to go ZEV though just by limited options and stock.

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For a gen 5 go with Overwatch Precision, a former client/partner of Chuck.
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 10:37:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Xhado:
@Pleaforwar


For a gen 5 go with Overwatch Precision, a former client/partner of Chuck.
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Cool, checking them out now.
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 11:57:31 PM EST
Temporary setup, was just playing with the freshly done Battle Werx cut I got today. Otherwise this gun wears the Unity ATOM below.

Link Posted: 11/24/2020 1:25:55 AM EST
@AKSU

How do you like the front sight placement on the Agency comp?

Do you get any benefit in sight tracking from having it relatively stationary?
Link Posted: 11/24/2020 8:57:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By feudist:
@AKSU

How do you like the front sight placement on the Agency comp?

Do you get any benefit in sight tracking from having it relatively stationary?
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It’s a nice feature to have a longer sight radius when shooting with your irons.
Other then sighting in my irons initially, I don’t really notice. While the front sight doesn’t reciprocate it does move up when the barrel tilts to unload and load.
Link Posted: 11/24/2020 1:12:29 PM EST
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Raven Concealment Freya.

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Originally Posted By Xhado:
Originally Posted By Pleaforwar:
What is the correct magwell for the Roland? Or is it user choice?



Raven Concealment Freya.



Good luck finding a G19.3 version. That is the only part/spec missing on mine. I ended up using an Overwatch Precision to complete my Roland Special.
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 7:16:27 PM EST
@Xhado

Thanks again for the recommendation.


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