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Posted: 5/8/2004 10:11:02 PM EST
Ok guys I need ya'lls help :)
I have a 1989 Colt Gold Cup that was my dad's but since he passed away I recieved all of his fire arms. I got several handguns and have sold a couple, but have kept this one because of sentimental value. The gun has seen its better days, I think it's in need of a new barrel because I guessing there has been around 15K+ put through it and needs a good refinishing. It currently has adjustable sights on it and I would like to change them to fixed sights. My questions are:

What's a good replacement barrel
What are some good sights
What is a good new hammer and dove tail
And what is a good finish?

I really appreciate the help.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 4:21:17 AM EST
First off, if it were my dad's, I would leave it as he remembered it as much as possible, but that's just me.
The Gold Cup slide is machined for an adjustable sight, not much choice there.
On guessing the barrel is worn, I would first give it a good cleaning and fire it, a decent barrel will set you back over $100.
As for the hammer and "dovetail"...I think you mean beavertail...the grip safety, some require grinding away at the rear of the frame and cannot be changed back to original configuration.
Assuming your Gold Cup is blue, not stainless, there are a lot of options as far as finish goes, depending on if you want looks or durability or just a reblue to keep it more original.
Very sorry about your dad's passing.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 6:21:29 AM EST
I would prefer good adjustable sights over any fixed sight. Thats me though. If you are serious about the modifications you will need to consult a good 1911 smith and get your checkbook ready. There are more options out there than imaginable.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 6:57:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/9/2004 6:58:41 AM EST by War_Angel]
A, 'good' barrel would be a Bar-Sto, 'precision match barrel'. I'd strongly suggest that you leave the sights and grip safety alone - It's an '89 Gold Cup!

Walter Birdsong's, 'Black T' would make an excellent finish for that fine gun. Walter may be able to help you with the barrel installation, too. Here's the address: WE Birdsong & Associates, 1435 Monterey Road, Florence, MS 39073. Phone: 1-601-939-7448.

The link for Bar-Sto is, www.barsto.com/ There are no finer pistol barrels in the world; and a Bar-Sto match barrel and, 'Black T' finish will NOT diminish the value of that fine classic pistol your father left you. (Wish my dad had been so thoughtful!)
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:41:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/9/2004 8:44:34 AM EST by BadSVT]

Originally Posted By anothergene:
First off, if it were my dad's, I would leave it as he remembered it as much as possible, but that's just me.
The Gold Cup slide is machined for an adjustable sight, not much choice there.
On guessing the barrel is worn, I would first give it a good cleaning and fire it, a decent barrel will set you back over $100.
As for the hammer and "dovetail"...I think you mean beavertail...the grip safety, some require grinding away at the rear of the frame and cannot be changed back to original configuration.
Assuming your Gold Cup is blue, not stainless, there are a lot of options as far as finish goes, depending on if you want looks or durability or just a reblue to keep it more original.
Very sorry about your dad's passing.



Thank you for your kind words, but he passed nearly 11 years ago when I was 8 :) But I still remember him well and hes the reason why I'm a gun nut.

And thanks for the info guys, the only reason I want a beaver tail is because the way its set up right now the slide cuts the crap out of my hands whenever I shoot it. What would you reccomend I replace to freshen up the gun? such as springs and other parts that could be worn. Oh and the gun is chrome with plenty of battle scars.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 4:53:50 PM EST
There are some beavertails that "drop in", but I can't imagine the slide cutting up your hand.
As for parts, the recoil spring would be the first to go, probably long overdue anyway.
With a nickel finish, satin or polished, you should buy matching parts, unless you change a lot of them for contrast.
There are a few special little parts in the sear on a Gold Cup...you may not want to take it down that far yourself, rather perhaps having a qualified gunsmith give it a clean bill of health for you.
I hope you get to enjoy Colt's top of the line classic .45 auto when you get it ironed out.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 2:22:34 AM EST
Your barrel is probably just fine as-is, it may, however, need a thorough cleaning. You may wish to have a new barrel bushing fitted, however and perhaps a new barrel link. Ditto replacment of the recoil spring first thing as it is certainly due for a new one. I have always thought the drop in beavertails looked like an afterthought, but to have something like an Ed Brown, etc, fitted will cost a good bit of change, probably $100+ before refinishing, which will be necessary since the frame will be cut for the install.

You can replace the Accro rear sight with any of several other adjustables, but switching to fixed sights is not a practical option. Call me old fashioned, but I think the National Match / Gold Cup looks best with the deep old Colt blue, even though I will admit that something like BlackT is more practical.

FYI Colt can and will renovate your gun for you if you want them to do so, but there are many good 'smiths out there who can do excellent work as well.

Very nice gun...enjoy it and think of your dad every time you shoot it.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:09:56 AM EST
If there is something we do it's 1911s. You would not believe how many Gold Cups have passed though the shop all newly refinished and perked up. Please do send an e-mail our way for information. Have pictures and references.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 8:30:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/10/2004 8:30:45 PM EST by BadSVT]

Originally Posted By ikor:
Your barrel is probably just fine as-is, it may, however, need a thorough cleaning. You may wish to have a new barrel bushing fitted, however and perhaps a new barrel link. Ditto replacment of the recoil spring first thing as it is certainly due for a new one. I have always thought the drop in beavertails looked like an afterthought, but to have something like an Ed Brown, etc, fitted will cost a good bit of change, probably $100+ before refinishing, which will be necessary since the frame will be cut for the install.

You can replace the Accro rear sight with any of several other adjustables, but switching to fixed sights is not a practical option. Call me old fashioned, but I think the National Match / Gold Cup looks best with the deep old Colt blue, even though I will admit that something like BlackT is more practical.

FYI Colt can and will renovate your gun for you if you want them to do so, but there are many good 'smiths out there who can do excellent work as well.

Very nice gun...enjoy it and think of your dad every time you shoot it.



I'm going to get it in a week and clean that puppy and put down rounds down range.

And Jailcop, I sent you an email

Thank ya'll very much for your kind words and helping me out.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 9:51:44 PM EST
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