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Posted: 10/29/2009 5:19:24 PM EST
My High Standard is stove piping and having failure to completely feed a round

A little about this gun. After I bought it, the gun was having the same problems. So I bought two Wilson Mags. I had the ramp polished and the barrel ported and polished. The gun smith also added a beavertail and a different hammer.

I went shooting today and ended up leaving the gun with the gun smith for the same problems. I took photos of what the gun was doing and showed him. You will see the very same photos from todays shooting.

He fondled the gun for a bit and said that It is probably the extractor. Or it could be the casing space???? or the Spring. Or multiple things.

He also prepared me for the fact that this gun may never run like I want it too. To consider selling it and buying a nicer gun. or just keeping as a plinker.

What are your thoughts?
Ideas?
Experience?

Here you see the spent round jammed with another round trying to load. This happened 4 times out of 150 rounds shot.


Ammo that I used

Link Posted: 10/29/2009 5:38:06 PM EST
My first guess would be check the extractor tension.
Link Posted: 10/30/2009 7:59:35 PM EST
Extractor tension and or ejector length. Shouldn't be a high dollar parts problem. Get another gunsmith to look at it that is a 1911 specialist. There is nothing new under the
sun when it comes to 1911 problems.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:40:38 AM EST
The most likely suspect is the extractor. Its hook and body must be shaped correctly and the tension needs to be adequate. Any good gunsmith should be able to tune the extractor for you. I don't know what it would cost, but it should be somewhere in the $50 ballpark. It might be cheaper to buy a new extractor and simply replace this one. That may or may not solve your problem, however. The fit between the new extractor and your slide could still be off.

Another possible culprit is a rough chamber. If extractor tuning does not solve the problem, a good gunsmith will polish the chamber. This should only be done by a professional –– you can cause serious safety problems by removing too much metal from the chamber.

Good luck.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:51:40 AM EST
Looks like a ejector problem. The case is out of the camber, but did not get kicked out. Should be a easy fix.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:34:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 2:22:57 PM EST by Spook410]
Hmm.. I may be a clueless amateur, but I would not start with the extractor. It is really easy to check but so are some other items. I would do things in this order:

- Check your recoil spring. Has it been messed with? Is it due for a replacement? They do wear out.
- Check your ejector position and condition. How well does the gun cycle by hand?
- Check the extractor tension and look for damage on to the extractor hook.

edit: the lips of the magazine aren't bent open a bit are they?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:49:28 AM EST
The gunsmith has it. I wish I had problem solved it a little more before I gave it to him. Hopefully he will figure it out. If not, I will use all of your advice.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:19:02 AM EST
For what it's worth, failures to eject are nearly always caused by a poorly fitted extractor. The extractor's real jobs are (1) to hold the case on the breech face where the extractor can strike it, and (2) provide a pivot so that the case rotates to the right when the ejector does strike it. If the case is not on the extractor, either the ejector will miss it or it will push the case forward, where it will strike the barrel hood or chamber and bounce back. The case needs to pivot to the right to get out of the ejection port.

In most cases, the extractor does not actually pull the case out of the chamber. Newton's Third Law does that. You have high pressure in the barrel, squirting the bullet out one end and the case out the other (once the barrel unlocks from the slide). There are guns that are designed to operate without an extractor. Check out the Beretta Tomcat and Bobcat, for example. Those guns have large ejectors, placed somewhat lower than is usual.

When you have a sticky chamber, then the extractor will actually extract the case from the chamber –– or try. If the chamber is too rough, the extractor will slip off the case before the slide has reached the end of its rearward travel. Then the extractor may miss the case or not be able to pivot it to the right, or the case will remain partly in the chamber. The gun will jam in any of these scenarios.
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