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Not to add fuel to the fire. But my TLE / RL II is my first Kimber and within 200 rds I had two FTE's. I am going to run another 500 through it before I make a call. But I can say my Beretta 92G-SD & G17 have NEVER had a FTE and they are both well over 1000 plus rounds with everything from Wal-Mart el-cheapo ammo to match grade. I still like my Kimber, but at this point I would not trust my life to it. As for now it seems to be a $1000 dollar range gun.
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sorry you had a bad gun. i like mine. but then i like my Springfield armory M1A and my AR-10. bot of which get bashed a lot here. |
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Had a BP Ten II here, never worked well, my $300 RIA works better.
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Many have bought Kimbers with the external extractor and base the quality of the Firearm soley on the problems from the bad design of this extractor.
I have two Kimbers, both with internal extractors. Both run flawlessly. One I carry quite Often and the other sits on my night stand. Kimber has finaly seen the error of the external extractor and is returning to the original internal design. If you're sour on Kimber then that's your loss. Go buy a RIA and live happy. Ps................ SIG had major problems with their release of the GSR GUESS that makes Sig crap too by your rules don't it. |
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Ps................ SIG had major problems with their release of the GSR hat I never said that my issues made Kimber crap. I did say that their price was not commensurate with their quality. My intent was not to bash Kimber, it was merely to express dissatisfaction with a particular product (tactical ultra series). Don't twitst my words or intentions because I've stepped on your toes by calling a spade a spade. |
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hobbs, good post....Your right, I'm not trying to bash ALL Kimber pistols. I didn't word my title line correctly. Originally I wanted to hear others thoughts on 3" 1911s, and to warn them about my experience. After discussion with a couple of knowledgeable people who have had this type of experience (i.e. reliability problems with Officer size 1911s) I've come to the conclusion that maybe the 1911 design isn't suited for 3" or "Ultra" size pistols
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I twisted nothing as your intent is quite clear in the manner in which you expressed yourself. You need to re read my post friend as my intent is equally clear . . . . and by the way you're not big enouph to step on my toes |
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I have a Kimber Tactical Pro II. I have had maybe a handful of extraction problems. But all were within the first 300-500 rounds. Have not had a problem in over 1500 rounds.
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After reading up on 3" 1911's I decided to go with a proven 4" design. Have heard of Springfield,Kimber and other 3" guns having problems. From what I could tell it was a hit or miss getting 1 to work out of the box.
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LOL!!!!!! |
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I have a Tactical Pro, Tactical Ultra, and Custom Stainless II.
After about 500-600 rounds fired the Pro became less problematic in regards to FTF/FTE. Indeed, after putting about 1500 rounds through the Pro, it has become sufficiently reliable to have earned the status of residing on the table next to my bed at night. Now that's trust!! The Ultra has yet to achieve such high regard. It's only sent about 400 rounds downrange, and is mostly plagued by failure to completely return to battery. I will fire the Ultra further and see if the action smooths out through usage. If not, then I'll replace the stock recoil spring with a heavier tensioned Wolf product. Most of my 1911's have required either a break in period, or some minor adjustments prior to becoming sufficiently reliable to become carry pistols. Although, I will add that my full sized Kimber Stainless Custom has performed flawlessly from the day it was purchased. An aside regarding 1911's with 3" barrels: my Colt Defender is completely trustworthy to the point that it is my daily CCW.... .02 - paddle3 |
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I had a series 1 which was a jammomatic as well. I think Kimber excells at marketing more than building a good pistol. I think we can all agree that there seem to be more issues with the Series II pistols. SGB, you seem a bit testy. No new deals at the gunshops this week? |
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Five Kimbers over the years, all flawless. You are right, their quality is much better than their price reflects, IMO.
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Kimber does some stupid stuff I'll grant you, most likely you got one of thier infamous MIM [internal] extractors that were as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Then they compounded the error by going to that monstrosity of a design called the external extractor............... that they've since abandoned (QUITELY) so as not to have to admit the error of their ways (and eat a lot of external extractor cut slides that no one in their right mind is gonna want). However they are no more guilty than Colt, Ruger, Sig and Smith & Wesson of making bad desicsions. And in my opinion are no more overpriced than anything else on the market.
Afraid I kinda flushed the fund with Christmas and all Sorry if I come across as testy...................... I have been fighting an infection with Antibiotics for about 10 days now with minor surgery to follow. |
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I have an Eclipse Target II, and absolutely love it... it gives me FTE problems once in a while, but nothing severe. I have, however, had 2 of the cheap MIM pieces break on me: the thumb safety fell off one day while I was shooting, broke on the flat area next to the pin, and the rear sight windage screw broke dropping the rear sight to the floor (this, incidentally, happened the first time back to the range after fixing the safety!). Kimber's customer supports was *excellent* both times that I called... they sent me a new safety lever... but they had me send the slide back to them to replace the rear sight. These things *shouldnt* break on a $1000 pistol... but when they did, Kimber did their best to rectify the problem, and that is all I can ask!
BTW -- in my holster, its a Sig Sauer (P220 or P229) ... I love the glamour of the 1911, but my Sigs, from shot #1, have never failed me. -tjg |
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+1 1911's were intended to have 5" barrels, period. My Colt Commander (4.25" barrel) has feeding problems (approx. 1 stoppage per 25 rounds), while both of my 5" 1911's almost never have problems. |
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Amen! |
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Kimber Warrior... best hand gun I have ever owned... followed by my CDP PRO II....followed by my GLOCK 19...
So far the service with Kimber has been amazing for me. Anthony |
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This brings up another point... IMO, if you buy a $900+ pistol it should run flawlessly from the first shot on. It should not be common to have experience dealing with the service department because the pistol shouldn't need it. I know several people with Kimbers and EVERY ONE of them has sent his gun back to the factory within the first 1000 rounds. Also, there are several posts where people talk about how great their Kimber/1911 functions once they add Wilson Combat BP extractror, new mags, mainspring, Wolf recoil spring etc. You shouldn't have to customize a $1K gun, IMO. |
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Not that I disagree with you, but unfortunately its true. I knew that when I bought my first 1911, and accepted it before hand, as most do. However...my external extractor Kimber TLE RL2 has worked 100% since day one, even on the stock parts. |
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I've never met and talked to anyone that bought a 1911 that ran perfect when they got it, they all had to be tuned no matter what brand, and I've known alot of people. Even if 100 people came up on this thread and said mine ran fine, it would still pale by comparison.
lol, mike ur smokin crack |
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NOTHING mand made, let alone mass produced is going to be 100% perfect 100% of the time. NOT Kimber, not Glock, not Ruger and not Sig. That's why manufactures have warranties.
And I have TWO Kimbers that haven't missed a lick, as well as knowing several others with Kimbers that have and have not been problem free since purchase. Your point?
One of the beauties of the 1911 is the ability to do just that if you're so inclined. If you want to debate the quality of Kimbers then you're in the right place. Anyone who wants to talk about your Sigs then take it to the Sig Forum. |
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-1 I've got a few Kimbers laying around. Never had a problem. The CDP was a gift from God himself. Flawless after thousands of rounds. ETA: It was flawless until I scratched the shit out of it when removing the zip tie from the trigger the day I brought it home. Used a knife instead of scissors. Doh! |
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Kimber is the reason if I ever again Own a 1911, it'll be a Les Baer.
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THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS! EVERYONE KNOWS THERE ARE BAD APPLES. STOP BITCHING AND GO SHOOT WHATEVER YOU OWN. YA DAMN BABIES!
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he I've got a 1984 Plymouth Colt to sell you...how about $40, 000. Then I'll sell you some parts to make it run he Apparantly I am...Lets just agree to disagree on this matter. This is getting old. I'm not going to change your mind (which wasn't my intent) and your certainly not going to change mine. Happy shooting! |
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Now I see the problem, you're smoking Crack!
You are correct in that this gets old and neither of us will change our minds. |
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