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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:40:25 AM EST
I´m planning to buy new barrel for my Government model and found Kart barrel at Brownells.

Price, at least, isn´t an issue here, about $95.

Does anyone know how´s their quality vs. Wilson, Brown or Bar- Sto?

Thanks in advance,
MN

Link Posted: 9/1/2004 8:14:02 AM EST
be hard to justify passing up a product as good as barsto for a brand i've never heard of over a few bucks.....
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 8:42:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 8:42:55 AM EST by M4A2_L073754]
I know Bar- Sto, those barrels are damn good and accurate. I have one on my .45 Commander. It´s possible to get unbelieveable groups even with ball ammo but I´m willing to test something new.

Material on those Kart barrels aren´t bad, they are using 4150 steel. Intelligence I gathered from Brownells website:

Forged from ordnance steel to strict, national match specs; rifled by a proprietary technique that holds lands and grooves to exceptionally close tolerances and leaves the surface finish mirror smooth. Air gauged to maintain .0002" tolerance through the bore. Feed ramps are throated for wadcutter ammo. Standard Barrel - Non-ramped, oversize hood, top and bottom lugs to achieve an exact fit for optimum match accuracy. Ramped Barrel - Fully supports the case head; gives direct feeding from magazine to chamber.

SPECS: 4150 ordnance steel. In-the-white. Available in 5" (12.7cm) or 6" (15.2cm) long. (W/N) Wilson/Nowlin ramp. (C/P) Clark/Para ramp. Ramped barrels require machining of frame. Requires gunsmith fitting.


www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=7615&title=PRECISION+QUALITY+BARREL

My second choice would be Bar-Sto but it seems there isn´t Bar- Sto barrel w/o ramp in stock.

MN


Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:16:18 AM EST
Between a properly fit Kart barrel and a properly fit Bar-Sto you won’t notice any difference in accuracy. I have guns with both and about the only difference between the two is that the Bar-Sto is stainless and the Kart is carbon steel. Either barrel will work and shoot well for years and many 10s of thousands of rounds provided that it is fit to the gun correctly.


Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:28:30 AM EST
Kart barrels are good enough for most applications.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 10:06:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 10:06:53 AM EST by M4A2_L073754]
I love this site. Thank you guys.

BTW, Rock River Arms is using Kart barrels on their 1911s.

MN
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 10:13:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4A2_L073754:

BTW, Rock River Arms is using Kart barrels on their 1911s.



As does Les Baer.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 10:19:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By AJohnston:

Originally Posted By M4A2_L073754:

BTW, Rock River Arms is using Kart barrels on their 1911s.



As does Les Baer.



So, it has to be good!

MN
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 3:34:43 PM EST
All of my gunsmiths prefer Kart, and, needless to say, I trust these gentlmen.

Be well!
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 5:43:51 PM EST
Kart make one of the best barrels in the US. A lot of bullseye shooter perfer them over Bar Sto. The only real differance is how the rifeling is cut.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 9:45:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By moxnix228:
Kart make one of the best barrels in the US. A lot of bullseye shooter perfer them over Bar Sto. The only real differance is how the rifeling is cut.



You got me curious, what method Kart does use? Broaching, forging or what?

MN
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