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Posted: 10/5/2007 8:24:29 PM EDT
Yes.

I know I can get something "Used" for this amount and I really dont want to hear the bullshit stories of people getting $900 guns for $400.

Is there anything out there....right now. That you can find "anywhere" NEW for $450?

Thanks
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:28:01 PM EDT
I think the CZ75 should be in that range.
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:28:03 PM EDT
Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm is $439 delivered from Budsgunshop.com.

Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:28:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:30:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 9:15:06 PM EDT by Msokol13]
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Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined
-external hammer preferred
-rust resistant A MUST



Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:32:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Msokol13:

Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined
-external hammer preferred
-rust resistant A MUST

Used HK compact or Sig

Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:34:14 PM EDT
Depends on your definition of a quality peice.

I like glocks but dont consider them quality. They can be had all day long at that range. NIB Used for about 100 less,

Walthers are in that range NIB so are many others. SIGS are a little highter as well as HK (Bout 120 higher NIB)

I am rather partial to the Witness CZ types and they are easly picked up for that kind of $$. Thats a quality rig IMHO. Steyr handguns are also only 350 NIB. They are extremely high quality IMHO. Have you looked around?

What are you looking for exactly?

Why not consider Pre owned or Certified. Hell even police trades etc.
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:38:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fister:
Depends on your definition of a quality peice.

I like glocks but dont consider them quality. They can be had all day long at that range. NIB Used for about 100 less,

Walthers are in that range NIB so are many others. SIGS are a little highter as well as HK (Bout 120 higher NIB)

I am rather partial to the Witness CZ types and they are easly picked up for that kind of $$. Thats a quality rig IMHO. Steyr handguns are also only 350 NIB. They are extremely high quality IMHO. Have you looked around?

What are you looking for exactly?

Why not consider Pre owned or Certified. Hell even police trades etc.


I looked at a Walther PPKs tonight, I liked everything about it except the slide mounted safety.

It made it difficult to pull back the slide with a less than perfect grip.
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 2:33:18 PM EDT by PromptCritical]
Kahr CW-9.

Your criteria:

-It will be a carry pistol ..............(That's what it's designed for, hence "CW")
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 ....(I think it's a bit smaller)
-Reliability .............................(My PM-9 hasn't ever had a malfunction)
-380 or larger .........................(9mm)
-slim lined ..............................(single stack)
-external hammer preferred ........(nope)
-rust resistant A MUST ..............(all metal parts are stainless steel)

Link Posted: 10/5/2007 8:41:11 PM EDT
I was actually refering to the P99's I like the qucik action and decocker. BTJM

XD's also fall into that range but I am not a fan of those. BTJM
They bite me in the web
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 9:07:11 PM EDT
there are alot of good "used" "pieces" out there for the price you stated.

if you know what to look for in a "used" gun you shouldnt have any problems. If you dont know, then its probably best to buy new. even then there are some good guns out there. Most of what people have recommended is good, however, you probably wont find any NIB CZ75s in SS for that. Used yes, but NIB no.

If you do your buisness with a LGS, i would see what they have. if its used, they will probably take it back if you have any issues, at least my LGS will.

Rugers GP100, SP101 is a good quality revolver and it comes in SS. I have the GP100 and one of my friends has the SP101.
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 9:10:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2007 9:10:45 PM EDT by Fister]
whitness in wonder finsih. Pretty much a CZ with a slide on steriods.

You shoud be able to land the sub cal kit in that range as well then you can shoot both 22lr and whatever
Link Posted: 10/5/2007 9:20:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2007 9:21:21 PM EDT by SGB]
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 6:50:02 AM EDT
The closest thing I can think of that fits all of those requirements is the Kahr CW9. A stainless S&W 908 would also fit the bill, but a brand new one would be ever-so-slightly over your price target.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 7:05:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 7:10:49 AM EDT by Boru]
You could get one of these in non stainless. I don`t have one but i sure like the way they look and feel. I`ve read many owners here telling how much they like them.

Link Posted: 10/6/2007 7:14:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 9:33:39 AM EDT by anr6t]

Originally Posted By Msokol13:

Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined

-external hammer preferred

-rust resistant A MUST




Sounds like your looking for a ...Glock 19
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 7:34:58 AM EDT
Simple, reliable (goes bang every time), durable,easy to clean, acceptable accuracy for CCW....Where does Glock lack quality
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 8:01:31 AM EDT
unfortunately you'd have to do a little looking:

Glock
CZ
Beretta
Sig poly line (2009, 2022, etc)
SA XD

but if you wanted to skip the "looking", i'd say the best you could probably do is a Ruger (P-89, p95, etc)
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 8:18:48 AM EDT
For a low cost pistol its hard to beat the EAA Witness line.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 9:15:51 AM EDT
PX4??? It's bigger though. Didn't you have a USPc before? Wouldn't that have filled your requirements besides the price????
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 9:23:06 AM EDT
Glock 19
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 9:31:31 AM EDT
I picked up a retired CHP S&W 4006 last month for 350.00. It is in great shape and functions flawlessly.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 10:00:31 AM EDT
Glock 19
Ruger P95
SA 1911

Would be on my list to look at.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 10:12:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By anr6t:

Originally Posted By Msokol13:

Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined

-external hammer preferred

-rust resistant A MUST




Sounds like your looking for a ...Glock 19


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VVVVVVV
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 4:10:41 PM EDT
Bersa 9mm Ultracompact in SS:



Budsgunshop $334.57 delivered to the FFL.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 5:43:20 PM EDT
Yep, Glock 19, the AK47 of the pistol world, I've got over 6000 rounds through mine and never had a hiccup.
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 9:15:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 9:16:24 PM EDT by Msokol13]

Originally Posted By Msokol13:
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Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined
-external hammer preferred
-rust resistant A MUST







My friend bought a rod and reel combo from Sportsman's Warehouse a few days ago and was given a $25 gift card. He sold the gift card to me for $15 so I went looking.

$479-$10 I saved on the gift card=$469....Close enough




ETA: TOP of the PAGE!
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 9:22:51 PM EDT
Cool!

Of course you could have gotten one of these for $130!
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 10:11:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2007 10:13:00 PM EDT by yekimak]
Now that I think of it a Stoeger Cougar would probably do the trick...made on Beretta equipment in Turkey.....

For a MSRP of $370 I might have to get one...
Link Posted: 10/6/2007 10:17:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KingC:
Bersa 9mm Ultracompact in SS:

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/34018.jpg

Budsgunshop $334.57 delivered to the FFL.


Or Bersa Thunder .380.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 5:32:54 AM EDT
FN FNP9

Link Posted: 10/7/2007 12:01:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 12:02:46 PM EDT by BSheppard]

Originally Posted By Msokol13:

Originally Posted By Msokol13:
.Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined
-external hammer preferred
-rust resistant A MUST







My friend bought a rod and reel combo from Sportsman's Warehouse a few days ago and was given a $25 gift card. He sold the gift card to me for $15 so I went looking.

$479-$10 I saved on the gift card=$469....Close enough

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Msokol13/June212006030.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Msokol13/June212006031.jpg

ETA: TOP of the PAGE!

I like it. How does it shoot?
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 1:07:58 PM EDT
For something inexpensive, I would look at the EAA Witness line or Ruger.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:57:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Msokol13:

Originally Posted By Msokol13:
.

Originally Posted By SGB:
Hmmmmmmm........... lots.


What are your parameters?


-It will be a carry pistol
-nothing bigger than a Glock 19 (using this as an example)
-Reliability
-380 or larger
-slim lined
-external hammer preferred
-rust resistant A MUST







My friend bought a rod and reel combo from Sportsman's Warehouse a few days ago and was given a $25 gift card. He sold the gift card to me for $15 so I went looking.

$479-$10 I saved on the gift card=$469....Close enough

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Msokol13/June212006030.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Msokol13/June212006031.jpg

ETA: TOP of the PAGE!



Just don't get any lint between the hammer and the decocker. Your pistol will cease to function.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:32:41 AM EDT
XD
CZ-75B
Glock 17

or depending on what your needs are:
Ruger MKIII .22 and plentiful amounts of ammo.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:45:17 AM EDT
I see Beretta 9000s around all the time for less than $450. I know there are a few members here who carry them. I don't have any personal experience with them though.

I personally would be looking at a sub compact XD for carry. They will be right around your $450 price range. They have shipped with Melonite finishes for quite a while now, so the finish issues of the early pistols have been resolved. I own an older 4" barrel XD 9mm, mine has the stainless slide, so finish was never an issue with mine. Really like the XD platform.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 7:13:15 AM EDT
I got a brand new Glock 19 in January for $449.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 7:23:22 AM EDT
Hell, I think you can get a Glock 22 factory used gun. With factory warranty night sights and 3 new mags. $349 at http://www.summitgunbroker.com
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 6:52:15 PM EDT

Bersa 9mm Ultracompact in SS:

Yep. My daily carry is a Firestorm Mini 9 (made by Bersa and basically the same pistol).
I have 2 Bersas and 2 Firestorms and all have performed excellently with no malfunctions (except my Firestorm .22). Also, the triggers smooth out very nicely after some shooting.
www.bersafirearmsusa.com
www.bersatalk.com
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 7:45:30 PM EDT
$349 brand new from CDNN. The Steyr absolutely cannot be beat in my opinion. As high of quality as ANYTHING on the market for half the price.



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