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Posted: 1/5/2006 12:30:55 PM EDT
2 internal and one external running just fine.
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-2, internals. Both were problems out of the box. Bought both used, as new.
Compact SS I corrected with good mags and later a Wilson BP extractor. Good pistol. Usually my CCW. Custom LE was a jammamatic when it got dirty. I mean less than 50 rounds dirty. It hated cast reloads than my 1991Colt loved. Good mags and new extractor no fix. |
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+2 internal
one with 15,000+ rounds with no non-ammo related failures |
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Early TLE II. Only one FTF ever, first mag. Over 2k rounds through pistol. The last 1k without cleaning/lube.
+1 Internal |
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i have a TLE II w/internal. i bought it brand new straight from the factory and the first mag had 2 FTF but hostestly after that mag i put 600 rounds through it with no problem so im going to say 100% reliable. im guessing the parts just needed to wear in a bit. +1 internal
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Stainless TLE II w/EE Never had any problems.
This was traded in for: Stainless Pro TLE/RL II w/IE Haven't had any problems so far. |
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+5 Internal. All Series 1 in either the Classic Custom or Royal Custom config. 5" models.
All have run 100% (non ammo related) for as long as I have had them. The ONLY failure's I've ever had was on a batch of handloads where I did not set the crimp properly. The lack of crimp was causing the bullets to set back in the case during cycling, causing a failure to return to battery. I've used Wilson mags, Kimber OEM mags, and Chip McCormick mags. All have worked 100%. As an aside, I did a year long test with one of my pistols to see what type of abuse (actually neglect)it would require to cause a malf. I shot this gun a minimum of 500 rounds a month, and never cleaned it. I stored it in a leather holster the entire time, and the gun pretty much lived in my truck. It was filthy, dusty, and the at times the slide felt very gummy when the action was cycled. Still, it never malfunctioned once. When I eventually did clean the gun, the only problem I found was some light rust in the bore. A good cleaning, plus a trip to the range took care of that problem. |
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+1 external TLE
+5 internal both 4" and 5" guns with my Clackamas having over 7000 rounds w/o a malfunction that wasnt mag or ammo related |
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-1 For each. Probably one malfunction in 100 rounds with the external. Half that with internal.
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TLE with EE - no extractor problems in over two years of shooting on a regular basis
CDP II with IE - no extractor problems in one year of shooting on a regular basis |
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4 EE - All unreliable.
No problems with friends Kimbers with IE's, Springers, and Colts. |
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+3 internal...all Series I
+1 external TLE...so far at least... |
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+1 IE
Bought used, I've put about 8500 rds through it, zero extractor problems. It will jam after about 100 rounds of LSW reloads and I had two magazine related failures. I put 800 rounds of ball and various hollow points without cleaning and it ran fine. |
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+1 EE Pro Raptor II w/no problems. About 1,000 rounds FMJ through it.
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After a trip to Kimber for some polishing of this and that my Warrior is 100% even with HP. It is a Internal Extractor.
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1 external- problems every other mag. FTF and FTE. Jam-O-Matic . Sold.....
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2 x Series II with internal extractors; both 100% including JHP's (bought the first one used)
*Currently only using factory Kimber mag and CMC regular mags which are considered crap by most people |
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Just bought a Pro TLE/RL with the external extractor. Less than 200 rounds and already more than 20 FTE failures!
What can I do to correct this? Please IM me with info. Thanks, Andrew |
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Call Kimber and get a RMA. Send it in and with any luck they will replace it with a new slide with an internal extractor. |
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I have 1000 rounds through my TLE with EE, no problems, no FTF, no FTE. I'm pretty happy.
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+1 |
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1 Stainless Custom II: Never had a single problem in ~1000 rounds
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External TLEII/RL
Started feeding and ejecting reliably around 100 rounds. Wilson Mags are a must. |
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I own 1 Kimber Custom II with the EE. I put about 1200 rounds down range and not a single problem. The one I thing I did was to trash the factory mag, rough feed lips, before using it. I only use MecGar chromed mags, best mag there is in my opinion.
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1+ IE 100% reliable
1+ EE Not reliable FTEs Is on second trip to factory. |
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Other than a person who did not specify extractor type on his Series II and the guy who did not specify how many Series I guns he had, here are the results so far:
-Internal: 38 reliable, 3 unreliable -External: 15 reliable, 12 unreliable Of the guns listed so far, that means internal extractors are 92.68% reliable, and that external extractor guns are 55.56% reliable. Total percentage of Kimbers regardless of extractor type that are listed as reliable is 77.94%. I realize this is not very scientific, with only 34 people's info, but it gives a rough idea. |
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Still having serious trouble with my Pro TLE/RL II with External Extractor after more than 500 rounds through it. I just packed it up to ship back to Kimber. Hopefully they get it right the first time!!! (Well, the second time, actually!) Wish me luck! Thanks,
Andrew |
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Experience with two EE pistols, both were reliable for several thousand rounds then the extractor took a dump.
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To be fair, I feel the extractor is the weak link on IE guns as well-at least until you install a properly contructed and tensioned part. I've replaced the extractor on my loaded Springfield about 18 months ago. The factory part didn't like type 3 malf drills, and had been virtually 100% until a handful of FTFs on the same day after the drills. The gun has had exactly ZERO jams since I replaced the part with at least 3-4K downrange. My 1991A1 Colt, purchased NIB sometime around 1992-3 is still on its original part. This was my main shooter until my recent Springfields and another outstandingly reliable pistol. I'd hope the problem rate isn't > 40% overall for the EE guns, but that could explain why it is going the way of the dodobird. |
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I have a Warrior with about 5000 rounds fired. I had 3 FTE in the first 500 rounds. Truth be known the FTE's were probably due to weak grip or wrist. The gun is very reliable. This is my favorite ccw.
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Internal Ultra Raptor. first 200 rounds I had 6 FTF's now it is 100% at about 2k rounds
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Bought a used TLE/RLII w/ external extractor, not sure how many rounds were through it before I bought it but it's definitely used. Has been reliable for me so far (few hundred rounds)
+1 for my EE. |
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If you have my luck, even when the replaced the slide to an internal extractor, you'll still have issues. For the record my TLE/RLII Pro has been through the following and I just had to send it back AGAIN. 3 barrel, 3 guiderods, 3 slides, 2 frames, still not working. This has been ongoing for almost a year now. |
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Betcha I could fix it.... Seriously, if it does not work this next time, tell Kimber that you want them to send it to a 1911 smith of your choice on their dime, or just tell them they can send you a whole new gun. That is just ridiculous to have the gun not corrected after all those trips. |
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