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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:56:47 AM EST
Ive heard so much shit talk on Blakhawk SERPA holster but after trying out quite a few (end very expensive ones)

SERPA IMO is the best 

I've drawn it hundreds of times and cant figure out how someone would pull the trigger un holstering their weapon

Now I have them only for Glocks

What say you ARFCOM?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:38:25 AM EST
You're trolling.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:38:56 AM EST
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I've had one, didn't really care too much for it. But I never had the trigger finger problem as I also had them for glocks, and on a 17 my hands just so happen to be big enough to rest on the front trigger guard. Again that's just personal experience, it might be different for people with slightly different anatomy. Maybe I'm slightly retarded, who knows.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:43:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Skymcd:
I've had one, didn't really care too much for it. But I never had the trigger finger problem as I also had them for glocks, and on a 17 my hands just so happen to be big enough to rest on the front trigger guard. Again that's just personal experience, it might be different for people with slightly different anatomy. Maybe I'm slightly retarded, who knows.
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Enough people have had problems to show that it is a systemic issue.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 12:04:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
You're trolling.
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swear Im not 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 12:08:13 PM EST
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Good for you if you do, but I find they stick out so far, and are so bulky. The thought is there, the design is not. Have you tried good leather or kydex?
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
The guy they hired to show how impossible it was to draw with the finger on the trigger, DREW WITH HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER in the promotional video
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Yes I have heard all about that but I have never had an issue. 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:45:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TripleC:

Yes I have heard all about that but I have never had an issue. 
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No one has an issue until they do.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:49:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
No one has an issue until they do.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By TripleC:

Yes I have heard all about that but I have never had an issue. 
No one has an issue until they do.
That should be on a t shirt. Nothing is a problem until it is.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:56:18 PM EST
Somewhere in the world there is a guy that likes having AIDS.

Don't be that guy.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:56:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SEK7562:


That should be on a t shirt. Nothing is a problem until it is.
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Reminds me of how I drove when I was 18.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:06:41 PM EST
Oh yay a SERPA thread
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:16:04 PM EST
I used a Serpa for several years, no issues. Knew ahead of time some gravel or other foreign matter could render it inoperable, same can be said for almost all other retention holsters.

There are better designs out now.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 4:25:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PinchedNerve:
Maybe try this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvus55eDSCk
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neat but that thing is like three times the size of the SERPA 

Ill give one a try though
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 5:18:51 AM EST
You get that Glock leg yet? haha

Honestly the SERPA is the cheapest Level 2 holster you can buy. And it works fine if you use it properly. It's a training issue for sure. Of course I know some local shooting ranges that have banned this holster due to accidents. I have one and never had an issue with it. But I generally recommend against it and tell people go with a higher quality holster with a release button in a better location such as the thumb release button type.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 10:23:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GunDisaster:
You get that Glock leg yet? haha

Honestly the SERPA is the cheapest Level 2 holster you can buy. And it works fine if you use it properly. It's a training issue for sure. Of course I know some local shooting ranges that have banned this holster due to accidents. I have one and never had an issue with it. But I generally recommend against it and tell people go with a higher quality holster with a release button in a better location such as the thumb release button type.
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Even well trained people in tiered SOF units have had trouble.
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LoL damn, wasn't aware of the .gov jumping in on the Sarpa hate.

odd that most local gun stores have a whole wall of SERPA holsters if they cause so damn many problems. I've only used them with Glock guns. Was it Glocks that were having the issues or other makes?

My local store http://jimsgunwarehouse.com/ has a wall full of them 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 2:02:42 PM EST
They're dogshit holsters with weak belt mounts, very small amounts of debris lock them up, the retention location is unsafe, and they're easy to rip apart in gun grab scenarios.

The safariland ALS system is a thousand times better, more reliable, and not much more money.

Just because gun shops sell them and people buy them, does not make them a good holster
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 2:19:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
LoL damn, wasn't aware of the .gov jumping in on the Sarpa hate.

odd that most local gun stores have a whole wall of SERPA holsters if they cause so damn many problems. I've only used them with Glock guns. Was it Glocks that were having the issues or other makes?

My local store http://jimsgunwarehouse.com/ has a wall full of them 
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By tenex:
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LoL damn, wasn't aware of the .gov jumping in on the Sarpa hate.

odd that most local gun stores have a whole wall of SERPA holsters if they cause so damn many problems. I've only used them with Glock guns. Was it Glocks that were having the issues or other makes?

My local store http://jimsgunwarehouse.com/ has a wall full of them 
Jims is a big shop, with a large selection... they still have some crap products- as do most gun stores.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 5:30:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fish1856:
They're dogshit holsters with weak belt mounts, very small amounts of debris lock them up, the retention location is unsafe, and they're easy to rip apart in gun grab scenarios.

The safariland ALS system is a thousand times better, more reliable, and not much more money.

Just because gun shops sell them and people buy them, does not make them a good holster
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That is one I haven't had the opportunity to try.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 6:54:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
LoL damn, wasn't aware of the .gov jumping in on the Sarpa hate.

odd that most local gun stores have a whole wall of SERPA holsters if they cause so damn many problems. I've only used them with Glock guns. Was it Glocks that were having the issues or other makes?

My local store http://jimsgunwarehouse.com/ has a wall full of them 
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Call it "Serpa hate" if you want, but it's a very well done study that proves that the Serpa is fundamentally unsafe. FLETC and a number of big-name non-government schools have banned the Serpa. The Safariland ALS is a vastly superior system and is readily available.

Choose what you want. Makes no matter to me. I've banned the Serpa on my department range.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 7:06:42 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/26/2017 7:58:40 PM EST
For an around the house carry holster, they are fine, where the gun spends a lot of time in the holster.
I wish they made them for the 4" S&W K/L frame revolvers.
Would have been nice if they made it for the P7 series HK guns also, that are top heavy, and sometimes hard to retain.
For semi autos w/o a manual safety of some kind, especially those pre-cocked striker fired models, it worries me a little.
Link Posted: 8/30/2017 3:22:35 PM EST
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I use them for several guns and I like them. Then again, I only use them when hunting as a sidearm, so basically never have to use my pistol. I am not LEO, MIL, etc. If I was, I would use the Safariland which I also have and use. Huge difference between them Safariland being on top. But like I said, mine us not used for any competition or CCW or anything that I need to rapidly draw.
Link Posted: 9/7/2017 8:13:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:

Um... Not to be a complete dick. But if you're not familiar with Safariland ALS maybe you aren't qualified to make a determination about what constitutes a quality holster.
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Just haven't been able to get my hands on one for the particular gun Im carrying at the time. 
Link Posted: 9/7/2017 11:44:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TripleC:

Just haven't been able to get my hands on one for the particular gun Im carrying at the time. 
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What gun are you currently carrying? I can promise you that the Safariland ALS system is 1000 times better and infinitely safer. I've carried one on duty for 3 years now. It's gone over fences, been in car crashes, taken extremely hard landings, been in numerous fights with it, etc.

It is the only retention holster I will use on duty. My dept issues a different retention holster that gets tossed in my locker and doesn't even come out of the packaging
Link Posted: 9/7/2017 12:15:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By TripleC:
Ive heard so much shit talk on Blakhawk SERPA holster but after trying out quite a few (end very expensive ones)

SERPA IMO is the best 

I've drawn it hundreds of times and cant figure out how someone would pull the trigger un holstering their weapon

Now I have them only for Glocks

What say you ARFCOM?
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Junk.
Link Posted: 9/8/2017 6:45:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Fish1856:


What gun are you currently carrying? I can promise you that the Safariland ALS system is 1000 times better and infinitely safer. I've carried one on duty for 3 years now. It's gone over fences, been in car crashes, taken extremely hard landings, been in numerous fights with it, etc.

It is the only retention holster I will use on duty. My dept issues a different retention holster that gets tossed in my locker and doesn't even come out of the packaging
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Right now I carry a Glock 30S. 

There is a local shop near me that has a bunch of ALS holsters in stock now and gonna go try one out 
Link Posted: 9/9/2017 9:20:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
You're trolling.
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This. Quit feeding the troll.

They're banned from most instructor courses for a reason.
Link Posted: 9/10/2017 6:57:00 AM EST
If you like your Serpa you can keep your Serpa
Link Posted: 9/11/2017 4:37:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:

Um... Not to be a complete dick. But if you're not familiar with Safariland ALS maybe you aren't qualified to make a determination about what constitutes a quality holster.
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^
Link Posted: 9/14/2017 12:28:55 AM EST
The ALS is a much better system. I got a duty type holster with ALS for my P09.
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