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Posted: 12/13/2005 7:36:12 AM EDT
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I dont know about a POS. I do have one, but I will say they are some ammo specific little bastards. I shoot mine initially with the heavier spring when I try new ammo, cause if it will feed crappy ammo with the stiff spring it wil work like a charm with the lighter spring. Def. a good gun, but very particular!!!hug.gif
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Posted: 12/14/2005 5:08:19 PM EDT
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thanx for the reply. reason I asked is im looking for a new 22 plinker. Sig has a great rep but I heard some discouraging things when the pistol first came out. I bought a P-22 and what a steaming pile that washink
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Posted: 12/14/2005 6:16:10 PM EDT
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I paid $369.00 for mine. I put five hundred rounds through mine today and was disapointed. I only had a few mags that emptied without a hitch. My Ruger never had a problem like this when I bought it and didn't clean it until I had 1100+ rounds through it.
The Sig fails to strip a round off and it stops half way intoi the chanber. I am using the spring that came with it. I like the feel of it and was planning to get a new Sig in 9mm but am thinking about it now. I don't feel this should happen in a $400 gun |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 5:23:40 AM EDT
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Called Sig CS on Friday. They said yeah we have heard of a few problems and that the gun was ammo specific. They suggested I not use the Remingtons because they have waxed tips and can cause some problems. They also suggested I change ammo, spring and try CCIs.
For the price of CCIs I would rather shoot 9mm. The spring is changed and the gun is clean. I will try some Federal and see how it goes. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 5:56:31 AM EDT
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I know this is an internet story , but. I looked at one in a store, as I examined it I noticed that the front sight was loose. It was a new gun. After hearing other stories about them, I decided to pass. Its a shame, because they look like neat little guns.
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Posted: 12/17/2005 4:34:53 PM EDT
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You did right. |
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Posted: 12/28/2005 6:07:29 PM EDT
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Thanx for the posts' I went with a ruger MKII with a 10" bull barrel fitted for a scopeh.gif
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Posted: 12/28/2005 6:14:44 PM EDT
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=14&t=23525
Nice concept, poor execution. The trigger is way to heavy/long for a .22 LR. |
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Posted: 12/28/2005 6:20:57 PM EDT
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The Mosquito is begining to sound like a mediocre traing pistol that you can have roll around in your truck. but why the hell pay 400+ for somthing like that.
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Posted: 12/29/2005 2:15:58 PM EDT
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an unfortunate +1. Get two Makarovs instead 
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Posted: 12/29/2005 11:24:35 PM EDT
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I bought a P22 and a mosquito in the past few weeks. They both work great. The Mosquito is picky when it comes to ammo but mine runs fine with CCI Mini Mags, Remington golden bullets and Federal game shok. In 700 rounds I have had 5 FTF's but they all fired when I hit them a second time. I started having problems with FTE's but it was due to the gun being dirty. I was shooting Remington golden bullets and they are very dirty, plus it had not been cleaned since I got it. The P22 has 1000 rounds through it and I have had 3 FTF's. I am very happy with both of them but I like the Sig better. They are both keepers.
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Posted: 12/29/2005 11:59:34 PM EDT
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Sig must have had a sudden attack of the stupids, and released a cheap product that cheapens their name somewhat.
They make fine pistols, but the Mosquito is not amongst them. |
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Posted: 12/30/2005 11:56:52 AM EDT
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YES
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Posted: 12/30/2005 3:17:46 PM EDT
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I was going to buy one, but I can get the Ruger MKIII Hunter for the same money.
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Posted: 12/30/2005 8:55:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2005 3:33:56 PM EDT
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Heres some hard data for you...got mine Christmas and have put almost 1000 rds thru it. The fun factor is *high*...I really like it a bunch. Ive run CCI minimags, Rem HV, Win power points and Federal cheapos thru it w/o any problems. I will say that feeding/function is best when its clean though. I can shoot about 500 thru it before feed.function problems become an issue (not a big one at that). Mags are expensive though. In all Id say its a good buy. AP |
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Posted: 1/1/2006 7:11:36 PM EDT
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thanx for the positive feedback on the mosquito. I think sig is one of the best gun makers but ill have to go with a diffrent make for a .22, can't have it craping out at 500 rounds.
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Posted: 1/2/2006 1:42:30 PM EDT
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More data....I shot 500 CCI minmags thru it this morning w/ only a single FTE. Wow! This is far better than my Trailside. Im planning to run some other brands thru the Mosquito just to see what might cause malfunctions. I believe though most lubed HV ammo is going to work well w/ the heavy spring. Ill report back periodically w/ that data.
Ive had the weapon apart several times now for cleaning/lube and to replace the front sight blade. Its a breeze to break down and put back together...VERY simple, quick and easy. I understand other brands can be challenging to reassemble. |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:26:16 PM EDT
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Changed ammo. Gun shot better with the Federal Chanpion brand but would not always cycle another round. I now need to go with the weaker spring. The gun feels great, has good sights and acurate however, too many problems for this kind of money. I could have bought a Ruger MKIII too. My Ruger 22/45 goes about 1100-1500 rounds before I clean it. It also shoots the dirty Remington ammo. I didn't know remington was dirty until I got the Mosquito. My mistake was not reading this board first. Now that I have, I took advice from all the positve inputs on the Sig classics and bought my second Sig, a 226. What can I say this forum was right its a great pistola. I thimk I see an X-5 in my future. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:06:47 AM EDT
[#20]
is there a 22lr conversion available for a 226?
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Posted: 1/4/2006 9:17:03 AM EDT
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Get a Trailside he For a gun that's 90% the 226 it should: be metal,have no safetys other than the trigger,and be available in DAO/DAK.Like the 226 . And wheil were at it I want a Sig 551 w/ a fun switck
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Posted: 1/5/2006 9:02:37 AM EDT
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I was having a similar issue with jamming and FTF's, but I read thru the manual incase I missed anything and was suprised to see that sig actually recommends oiling the cartridge(s) prior to use. I took my spray oil gave the box of ammo a quick shot, shook, and shot. So far after greasing the ammo I have not jammed or FTF'ed once.
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Posted: 1/5/2006 9:09:01 AM EDT
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Wow, oiling the dirtiest firing ammo seems like a terrible idea to me. I'll stick with my G-17 conversion or my 22/45 thanks.
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Posted: 1/5/2006 9:43:47 AM EDT
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Never heard of oiling the whole box of ammo. An old .22 shooting trick was to place a drop of oil on the first cartridge of a magazine. This usually cured any malfuctions that may arrise during a shooting session. Seasoned shooters would realize when they needed to add another drop but that is usually the extent of oiling ammo. |
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Posted: 1/5/2006 10:49:44 AM EDT
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I caught that one when reading thru the manual and just ignored it. I figured if I use factory lubed ammo then that'll do just fine. As I said above the CCI minimags are lubed and run best. The CCI ammo has the most lube of all the brands Ive tryed so far exc for perhaps for some Federal ammo (which I haven't yet run). The others will cause malfunctions but only after many are shot. I think the Win powerpoints have no lube at all though.
ETA: Its sort of sad that SIGs second attempt at a .22RF HG is having the same problems as the first. I thought they would have learned some important lessons from the Trailside. That appears not to be the case though. Perhaps making a reliable 22 autoloading HG is just hard? I don't think so though.... |
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Posted: 1/6/2006 3:03:41 AM EDT
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I bought the first one I saw. 10% fail to fire in 500 rounds, Some fail to feed. Accuracy was good. Decocking lever was loose and would lock up the action if it sliped. Gun went back to SIG who replaced it with a new one which I told the dealer to keep and got my money back, POS is correct,
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:14:26 AM EDT
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I looked at one today, loved it, unitl I tried the DA trigger pull. HORRIBLE. SA was nice. Anyone making longer threaded barrels for them yet?
S.O. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 4:55:47 PM EDT
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IMHO, I think you are better off buying a P22. They are $100 cheaper and come factory threaded.
You get the same quality pistol (or lack thereof) for much less $$. That is what I have done. I plan to get rid of the P22 when something better comes along. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 9:27:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2006 7:31:12 AM EDT
[#30]
You missed the point of my post. |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 8:10:15 AM EDT
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My P22 hasn't blown any goats. I think I'd know, cause it would smell like goat cock and it doesn't. And, oddly, mine has been 100% perfect since the day I bought it, some 1,500 round of various ammo and not a single failure yet. If yours blew goats and didn't run, I'd take it back to the store and get a non-goat-blowing P22. |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 9:54:27 PM EDT
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I got the point, I was just elaborating on the unfortuante purchace of a p22hinking.gif |
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Posted: 1/8/2006 10:04:12 PM EDT
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I did, and got a non goat blowing S@W 432PD. I am encoraged to hear that your P22 shoots well and you must have bought a Wednesday gun and I had the misfortune of buying a Monday gun when the machinists were working off there hangovers  .
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Posted: 1/9/2006 1:32:46 PM EDT
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I must have the only working Mosquito on the planet...or at least the only one to admit it. I ran 700 Win powerpoints thru mine last night which didnt perform as well as the CCI minimags. I had some feeding problems most of which appear to be magazine/ammo dimension related. The problem centers around the rim dimension I think. The rounds get jammed in the mag and you must be careful when loading so they go in just so. I didnt have this problem w/ the CCI ammo. Also there were 3 or 4 times a round feed OK but the weapon didnt go into battery. Trying to push the slide foward didnt work and only after pulling the slide back a bit did the spring move the slide far enough forward. In all I had about 10 malfunctions. For a plinking/fun gun thats quite good. I know my old Trailside wouldn't have run so well.
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Posted: 1/14/2006 6:41:23 PM EDT
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I ran 50 Velocitors thru the Mosquito tonight...all ran just fine and were quite good accuracywise. I think they ran dirtier than the mini mags though.
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Posted: 1/16/2006 9:31:36 PM EDT
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I have all but given up any .22 pistol other than Rugers.
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Posted: 1/16/2006 10:10:31 PM EDT
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Ruger hardly has a corner on reliable/accurate .22 autoloaders. I like them, but there are other good models out there. S&W 41 or the 22A/S series Buckmark Sig Trailside I've owned all of those, and they all ran like tops. |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 1:13:14 PM EDT
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I got a sig that would ftf on about the third round every time. I checked the mag and realised that the follower was binding on the side of the mag at that spot. After I adjusted the mag a little so the follower was freely moving, I have had NO problems.
It shoots everything I've given it, and is a really fun pistol. I've also got a P22. Walther had a recall on their mags and sent new "improved" ones. I wonder if some of the problems you folks experienced with these .22 pistols can be traced back to the mag? |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 9:43:02 PM EDT
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No, the problems can be traced back to the pistols being pieces of shit, with shitty components and a shitty design. It baffles me that Walther and Sig (two great pistol makers) would put their name on such shit. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 10:13:04 PM EDT
[#40]
I agree, I just bought a Ruger MKII 10” bull barrel and loaded the mag with Remington, CCI blazer, and Aguila Sniper Sub Sonic rounds alternated and the gun never had a malfunction. |
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Posted: 1/29/2006 7:20:19 PM EDT
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Just curious for those talking badly about the Mosquito...have you given one a go? If not what are you basing your 'opinions' on? Based on this thread only those w/ problems have spoken up. It would be good to hear from those who are satisfied. It never seems to fail that when a gun is a problem it gets labelled as junk. My Mosquito works nearly perfectly. Its like any gun, no better or worse. In fact the Trailside was much more problematic when it was introduced.
At the moment I have about 5k rds thru my Mosquito and have experienced no significant problems. In fact for a plinker its outstanding. A target pistol it isnt but its not better or worse than any other pistol like it. In a single range session it runs well beyond 500rds (typically I shoot 700-800 rds/session) w/o the need for cleaning or lube. I will admit toward the end it experiences some feeding problems. This isnt a problem w/ the gun but rather the mag getting dirty. Ive not tryed all the vaiations of ammo, lune and what not to see when it runs and when it doesn't. I do know that what Im doing w/ it now seems to be nearly ideal. I wouldnt hesitate getting another. Once I've used up my Winchester powerpoints Im going to try some other types. So far Ive had no problems w/ CCI mini-mags, Remington yellow/green box hi velocity (not Yellojackets) and cheap Federal 40gr lead rd nose. So far the best ammo has been the CCI minimags b/c theyre lightly lubed and the head seems to be slightly smaller so they never bind in the mag. I dont recall any of the other types binding in the mag exc the powerpoints. HTH anyone interested in giving a Mosquito a go.... ETA: Someone gave data on the SA/DA trigger and I concur....the DA trigger is terrible and I rarely use it. The SA is very nice. The distance to reset the trigger is somewhat longer than Im used to (based on extensive experience w/ my Glocks). |
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Posted: 1/29/2006 9:49:47 PM EDT
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That is what SIG should have done is make excellent conversions for the P220/6, P228, P229, and p239's. I would buy several of them. 
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Posted: 1/31/2006 4:12:49 AM EDT
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I wonder if some of the problems you folks experienced with these .22 pistols can be traced back to the mag? The mag was fine on mine. I had 10% failure to fire out of 500 rounds. The take down lever was loose as a goose and if it was not just right the triger locked up. The decocking lever also locked the pistol up several times. Accuracy was better than expected. Three major problems on one new pistol bites. I have a 226 that I really like but I won't buy any new models from SIG. It is an insult to gun buyers to put a POS like the Misquito on the market. The dealer I bought mine from has had "about half" of the ones he sold returned to SIG. |
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Posted: 2/1/2006 7:15:09 AM EDT
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No problem with mine with 4 or 5 different types of ammo. I've got about 400 rnds through it.
POI changes a lot with ammo velocity. I went to the taller front sight. Very good groups at 25 yds.. |
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Posted: 2/4/2006 4:44:12 PM EDT
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More ammo data:
Today I ran 160 rds of Federal American Eagle HV copper plated (38 gr HP) and 100 rds of PMC Sidewinder HV solids (40 gr lead RN) thru the Mosquito. Wow...this HG is *very* ammo sensitive! Neither brand worked well. The PMC ran the worst w/ *MANY MANY MANY FRUSTRATING* FTF and FTE but the Federal was an almost indistinguishable second. Both had lube on the bullet although the PMC had more. Neither shot particularly well either (passable groups w/ more than a few flyers). I was planning to shoot more of each brand but failures were so numerous I gave up (in frustration and concern I might damage the firing pin). I then ran 500 rds of CCI Mini-mags (36gr plated HP) thru the weapon w/o a single failure of any type! The groups were outstanding too! I did notice that the CCI ammo was completely lubed (bullet and case) vs just bullet on other brands Ive tryed. The odd bit is that the Winchester Powerpoints and Remington yellow/green box that run w/o too much trouble contain NO lube at all. I figure the reason for this is they produce more power to cycle the weapon....just a guess and Im certainly open to other insights. I do recall the Powerpoints were the only brand I could use in my Trailside. Other brands I tryed didn't have quite enough to cycle the weapon esp after it was a bit dirty. BTW the SIG manual indicates lubed ammo should be used for best results. I would say that the stmt should be more definitive and read 'This weapon wont cycle properly unless well lubed ammo is used.'. Perhaps the marketing folks thought that would cast the welyapon in a bad light...who knows though. One thing for certain is that after aquiring a Mosquito you 'll certain want to try different brands to determine which work well....and which don't. After today Id say if youre having functional problems w/ your weapon try some different brands of ammo. BTW I still like my Mosquito.  It ROCKS!
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Posted: 2/4/2006 6:25:48 PM EDT
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It does cast the weapons in bad light. A gun that only works with one brand of ammo is unacceptable. Especially when it won't work with the most common brands. |
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Posted: 2/4/2006 10:18:19 PM EDT
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Perhaps...but for the record mine works w/ three (so far) and two of those are unlubed. I think CCI mini-mags and Remington yellow/green box are common as theyve been for sale everywhere Ive lived. The powerpoints arent so common. Still I have no complaints...its a wicked fun gun!  I understand you dont share that sentiment and another RF HG would likely make you happier. Dont mistake me for a SIG apologist though -- Glock doesnt make anything in 22RF so this was the next best.
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Posted: 2/5/2006 7:31:31 AM EDT
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I was all excited about the Mosquito when it was announced. I wanted to dump the P22 and replace it with the Mosquito. |
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Posted: 2/5/2006 12:32:00 PM EDT
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Yup...I can well understand your disappointment -- when you look so forward to something and it doesnt pan out -- its a bummer. On the bright side...Im well aquainted w/ the Trailside and it was a flaming DOG when it first came out. SIG I think corrected some of the problems and the later mdls seemed to work. Perhaps theyll do the same for the Mosquito. OTOH its probably a better scheme to just take care of the problems before intro'ing the product. It seems all too common these days that V1.0 really gets field tested properly by paying customers. It shouldn't be that way but..... |
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Posted: 2/5/2006 6:05:26 PM EDT
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Holy smokes...my first breakage!! Ive joined The Club.
This noon I was blasting away when something bigger than a case launched down range. Hmmmmm.....what could that be. Oh my...its half of the safety switch!! It broke off inside the slide. So, I suppose Ill need to give my buddies at SIG a ring tomorrow morning and see if I can get parts. Let the razing begin...but I still think my Mosquito ROCKS! In favor of my Mosquito (hey, you knew this was coming) I do have 7000 rds thru it now. OK, Im not being so convincing. Never mind.....ETA: I phoned SIG and theyre putting the bits in the mail today or tomorrow.  Sweet...the Mosquito shoud be up and running for the w/e. I was a bit concerned they would want to do the repair themselves. Im starting on my 3rd week waiting for parts. The first time I called I asked for an OD green switch (matches my receiver). I wasnt told they were backordered. I didnt discover this until I called the following week to find out if they had sent the switch. Since they were backordered a couple weeks more I told them black would be OK and they were supposedly in stock. The week has come and gone w/o a safety switch. If SIG knew (and they had to) that repairs would be needed early on they should have stocked parts accordingly. While I still like my Mosquito I think SIG as a company is a nonstarter. In the mean time Ive also aquired an Advantage Arms 22RF conversion for my Glock. Its fun too...as much as the Mosquito and I can use my AA conversion NOW. |
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.better off throwing it at someone than trying to muddle through all the safetys, FTE's, FTF's, ect. sig just has a good name that is not well served by the Mosquito.