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Posted: 12/22/2004 4:41:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 9:23:15 AM EDT by AZ-K9]
Pistol is in very used condition, nicks, dents, dings everywhere. Good value for the price ($299), and came with one new LEO marked Mec-Gar hi-cap. Some oddities about this particular pistol however. There seems to be a spot on the frame where something was filed off (not a serial number obviously), and next to that there appears to be an Israeli/Euopean? code in the frame. The barrel appears well shot, the rifling is moderate. Looks like a bunch of lead only bullets were fired, it has that smudged look inside. There is considerable slide to frame play, but nothing excessive, especially compared to my 220 I traded in eariler this year. Check out the take-down lever.. Never saw such a strange looking one....

The pistol will be refinished soon in Norrell's moly.

Can anyone ID the marks in the frame and the date of manufacture? How about the take-down lever? I wonder what it said where the frame is scratched out?







Link Posted: 12/21/2004 9:27:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cyanide:
I can not remember  the last time when I saw a firearm --------- that tired.


It's a rough life over there....

She will shine again, ala John Norrell.
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 6:10:25 PM EDT
I've never seen a SIG with that strange looking takedown lever. Looks like an aftermarket.
In front of that NHMCO was probably a dep't marking that had to be removed. The takedown on the right side is unlike anything I've seen on a SIG, that makes me think aftermarket.
I ahve a catalogue somewhere of a company that sells original SIG  parts. It's in Ca somewhere. I think Torrance. You should get some of those strange parts replaced.
The marks on the underside of the slide in front of the dust cover are normal SIG.

Boy, it does look rough.
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 6:32:39 PM EDT
I can not remember  the last time when I saw a firearm --------- that tired.
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 6:40:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cyanide:
I can not remember  the last time when I saw a firearm --------- that tired.




No doubt...that damn thing is beat to crap!!



Sgatr15
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 7:06:05 PM EDT
Wait a minute......

I rarely comment compared to *you two*, but you ag....

No - someone else should say it

But yea it looks used - a high quality car pistol?
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 4:03:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
Thanks for taking the trouble to post the pics.

Any idea on what new Sig 228s are running today? As most of us should already know, the Euro vs the Dollar has been taking a pounding.




I don't think you can even GET new P228's


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 9:35:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2004 11:02:06 PM EDT
Thanks for taking the trouble to post the pics.

Any idea on what new Sig 228s are running today? As most of us should already know, the Euro vs the Dollar has been taking a pounding.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 5:18:00 AM EDT
K9...


  yours looks much better than mine, send me the takedown lever.., it looks cool

NHMCO SAGGA is israeli writing for something, i am looking it up now, waiting for a response from Israeli friend, i like the star of david, nice, mine has what appears to be an olive tree on the side of the frame, i left a bunch of pics in the sig forum, yours is a much healthier looking unit than mine, my rifling is smooth, the frame slide fit is loose

i replaced the takedown lever spring, the reciol guide rod and spring, hogue rubber grips, and a lanyard mod for the grips, brownells teflon moly paint, but it chips...

sweet gun man, mine is worn, but still makes good head siize shots at 25 yards

the writing under the slide is normal sig stuff, if i am correct the letters on the bottom of the slide are KD?, if so your pistol was made in 1993 and proof tested in kiel west germany, as was mine, maybee the same production run
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 5:22:06 AM EDT
are these police?

who told you?

just tracking down info, neeed to find the history behind these
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 7:11:05 AM EDT
When you wear a gun for business, you 'wear' a gun.  And it ain't no fashion show.  It ain't pimp bling, it is a tool.  Not a thing wrong with that, unless you are mentally conditioned to safe queens, and not shooters.  Honest wear, some history.  Keep the lever if you want.  Could be the factory levers were too expensive for when they lose them, so they had a local shop make some cheaper.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 7:33:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
are these police?

who told you?

just tracking down info, neeed to find the history behind these


The ad for the TDW gun stated they were Isralei Police trade-ins. When I called to order one, I was referred to a business partner who had bought half of the lot, as TDW was sold out.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 7:44:42 AM EDT
cool, thanks for the info...
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 7:48:18 AM EDT
LINK?
Phone Number?


Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
are these police?

who told you?

just tracking down info, neeed to find the history behind these


The ad for the TDW gun stated they were Isralei Police trade-ins. When I called to order one, I was referred to a business partner who had bought half of the lot, as TDW was sold out.

Link Posted: 12/22/2004 9:48:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruizer:
LINK?
Phone Number?


Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
are these police?

who told you?

just tracking down info, neeed to find the history behind these


The ad for the TDW gun stated they were Isralei Police trade-ins. When I called to order one, I was referred to a business partner who had bought half of the lot, as TDW was sold out.



New Helvita Trade Group
2215 J. Street
Sacramento, CA 95816
(916) 446-2737

Speak with JoAnne.....

I ordered one addional hi-cap Sig mag for 29 extra. When she heard that, she started asking if I lived in an area where I could have it. I could'nt help bit giggle.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 10:32:43 AM EDT
Its a Sig, it's beautiful!!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 11:47:03 AM EDT
You can get new P228's, they are just hard to find.  They usually run about $600-$700, all blue, contrast sights, with the obvious upcharges for Kkote or night sights.  CDNN has used ones for $369.  I paid $650 for a used on a couple of years ago when they were just coming onto the market, night sights, factory two tone.  I have never thought twice about the money I spennt on it, its the best gun I have ever owned.  Seeing them for $369 just makes me want one for my other hand.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 11:50:41 AM EDT
Handgun is now disassembled and ready for Norrells.
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 12:08:02 PM EDT
i wanna see it when you get it done....
Link Posted: 12/22/2004 9:08:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
i wanna see it when you get it done....



+1 on that!
Link Posted: 12/23/2004 1:43:59 AM EDT
IMHO I think the used LE trade-in Sigs are some of the best deals going.  CDNN carries several models as well.  I've bought 2 P220's and a P226 trade-ins and they were all excellent.  The guy I sold the P226 to had Sig do a trigger job and replace the sights (didn't like adj night sights I used to see over suppressors), and had it hardchrome all for less than the price of a new pistol.
Link Posted: 12/31/2004 12:08:18 AM EDT
my frineds say I like ygly guns but that one doesn't look that beat to me. the marknigs on the frame are those of the importer required by fed law, nothing to do with the israelis. it could be the rub mark on the frame is from a holster retaining device or may have been intentional hard to say from the pic
Link Posted: 1/1/2005 4:28:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2005 4:30:06 PM EDT by 1345]
+1 for lumpy re:  the take-down lever.  it looks exactly like the one for the surefire 332 weapon light mounted on my P226
Link Posted: 1/2/2005 10:48:03 PM EDT
The writing on the frame stands for NHM company, who imported these and their City which is Sacramento California, I ordered a hand select  Isrealie 228 for a little more, should be here soon I hope.
Link Posted: 1/2/2005 11:16:46 PM EDT
Finally got around to the refinishing, pics tomorrow. My digicam sux and I have to wait for a sun.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 10:05:26 AM EDT

And in the rain.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 10:08:45 AM EDT
Better ----------
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 10:18:49 AM EDT
Very pretty
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:00:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 5:00:56 PM EDT by panzersergeant]
Your Sig looks brand spankin new! My 226 is an ex-police gun, and it is the best shooting pistol in my collection. After seeing your 228, I am going to have to get one of those too!
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 6:51:06 PM EDT
The OD frame is sweet.  Nice "new" gun there!
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 8:48:48 AM EDT
Suh-weet!  Damn that Sig turned out nice.  Amazing what a set of new clothes can do.
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 8:59:10 AM EDT
Very nice.  Did you send to gun away for refinishing? or did you diy?
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 10:08:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By martinmayhem:
Very nice.  Did you send to gun away for refinishing? or did you diy?


Did it myself.

Gonna start offering the service in a few when I get my skills where I want them.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 12:40:26 AM EDT
What did you use, and how much for materials?  I have three of these things.  My intent was to have them refinished.  Seeing as how I got them for almost nothing, I would like to try my hand at doing it myself.  Thanks for any info.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:21:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BK6:
What did you use, and how much for materials?  I have three of these things.  My intent was to have them refinished.  Seeing as how I got them for almost nothing, I would like to try my hand at doing it myself.  Thanks for any info.


Norrell's Moly Resin. I paid $150 for a gallon of it (four colors) and roughly $80 for a decent airbrush.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:46:10 AM EDT
Nice looking Pistol! Good Job, I like the OD.
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