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Posted: 9/7/2004 6:52:56 PM EST
I realized the other day how ANAL I am about CCW. I was leaving to just run down to the store, when I realized I did not have my GLock with me.

I turned around in the driveway, and actually went back into the house to get it.

I have found that since I have made such a studious practice of CCW that if I go out of the house without it I feel as naked without it as I would if I left my cell phone, or my watch... or my pants.

Anyone else out there as anal about it as I am?
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:57:12 PM EST
Can't be half the time. College campus...

Though the thought has occured to me......nevermind...
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:01:07 PM EST
I'm at a cross roads myself..

I have to plan my schedule..

I've got school, and if I have to go onto a military base, I can't be packin'

makes no sense to me 'tall.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:03:15 PM EST
24/7-365.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:03:53 PM EST
I carry everywhere, all the time. I have a weapon in arm's reach in the house.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:17:20 PM EST
More habitual than anal. My wife has her purse, & I have my leather carry pack. Since I keep all my other essentials in it, it invairably goes w/ me. Just the way it is, & I don't (have to) think about it, though I always know its there. The weight of a steel L-frame 7-shot .357 is hard to miss, which is how I prefer it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:19:10 PM EST
I dont leave the house without it, I even had it on our last 2 family reunions. Of course I dare not tell them.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:23:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
More habitual than anal. My wife has her purse, & I have my leather carry pack. Since I keep all my other essentials in it, it invairably goes w/ me. Just the way it is, & I don't (have to) think about it, though I always know its there. The weight of a steel L-frame 7-shot .357 is hard to miss, which is how I prefer it.



Leather carry pack? You mean like a "fag bag" or a... um.... whatcha callem... umm... a man purse?
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:25:36 PM EST
If I have it with me, I carry. If not, I don't no biggie here
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:26:32 PM EST
I carry as often as legally possible. Seems like everytime I forget it I end up wishing I had, the last time I got lost in South Dallas.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:38:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 7:38:57 PM EST by chrome1]
I usually only carry when I have large bank deposits to make ..... If I remember to bring a weapon with me when I leave for work

At first I always had at least one weapon on me , then the newness wore off and I started to leave home un armed . The fact is I hate carrying anything on me in the summer , be that a wallet , keys , cell phone or even pocket knife . The winter is much easier since your wearing heavier and layers of clothing .

I'm almost afraid to admit that my favorite is a Galco Miami classic for my 96 .. Sure it's pimp and slow to use , but its so comfortable under a winter jacket you sometimes forget you have it on .
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:44:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 7:44:53 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:01:22 PM EST
Whenver I can these days.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:25:12 PM EST
It's like Visa, don't leave home without it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:36:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bear_B:

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
More habitual than anal. My wife has her purse, & I have my leather carry pack. Since I keep all my other essentials in it, it invairably goes w/ me. Just the way it is, & I don't (have to) think about it, though I always know its there. The weight of a steel L-frame 7-shot .357 is hard to miss, which is how I prefer it.



Leather carry pack? You mean like a "fag bag" or a... um.... whatcha callem... umm... a man purse?



I would rather get laughed at for carring in a man purse, but have my ccw weapon with me at all times.
I personally do no leave home without it and I too have a fanny pack, iwb holster and outside wb holster for differring attire. Anal probably, Wise Definitely.


Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:39:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By THellURider:
Can't be half the time. College campus...

Though the thought has occured to me......nevermind...

same here
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 8:47:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bear_B:

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
More habitual than anal. My wife has her purse, & I have my leather carry pack. Since I keep all my other essentials in it, it invairably goes w/ me. Just the way it is, & I don't (have to) think about it, though I always know its there. The weight of a steel L-frame 7-shot .357 is hard to miss, which is how I prefer it.



Leather carry pack? You mean like a "fag bag" or a... um.... whatcha callem... umm... a man purse?



Having personal problems?

A "man purse" is preferrable for carrying an L-frame, 7-shot revolver, IMO. Also makes for easy carry & quick access when riding a MC. The way it is. No apologies.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 9:01:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:
24/7-365.



+1
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 9:54:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:

Originally Posted By Bear_B:

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
More habitual than anal. My wife has her purse, & I have my leather carry pack. Since I keep all my other essentials in it, it invairably goes w/ me. Just the way it is, & I don't (have to) think about it, though I always know its there. The weight of a steel L-frame 7-shot .357 is hard to miss, which is how I prefer it.



Leather carry pack? You mean like a "fag bag" or a... um.... whatcha callem... umm... a man purse?



Having personal problems?

A "man purse" is preferrable for carrying an L-frame, 7-shot revolver, IMO. Also makes for easy carry & quick access when riding a MC. The way it is. No apologies.



None needed... dont get me wrong, Im NOT poking fun. I'm just clearifying what you meant, thats all!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 9:56:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By NateM4:
It's like Visa, don't leave home without it.



Actually thats American Express...

Visa is "Everywhere you want to be".
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:47:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:59:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:37:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:52:53 AM EST
I found a small leather day planner at Wilsons one year. It's about 4" x 5" x 2" thick.
It had a small loose leaf binder riveted in it's spine & zips shut. It was on sale real cheap
because it was the out of date. I new when I saw it that it would fit my P-12 perfectly. I can
even get a spare mag in it. It looks like a large palm cover. I also have a little larger one
that has several pockets that I carry my Hipower or a full size 1911. Hidden in plain sight...

I also car IWB a lot, too.

24/7-365

Johnny C!
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 9:06:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 9:10:50 AM EST by faris]
I've been told by people who KNOW, that the most ghastly feeling possible is to be suddenly in a bad situation, and realize the gun you USUALLY have on you, is at home.

This is why you need to take care in the selection of your CCW gun and holster.

Yep, a Dirty Harry .44 Magnum is effective, and a complicated shoulder holster is nice, but if you leave it home just because "Well, I'm only running down to the corner store for a second", you may well regret it.

I tell people to choose an EFFECTIVE gun that's small enough to comfortably wear constantly, and pick a carry system that's also comfortable, AND fast to put on.

Just as dumb as the .44 is carrying an IN-effective gun that won't do the job. I once had a police relative who carried a .25 automatic ON A KEY CHAIN. His department demanded full-time carry, and that was the smallest gun he could find.

Fortunately, today is the age of the "Pocket Rocket" with guns like powerful snub revolvers and autos like the Kahr and Glock compacts.

These are powerful, but still smaller guns. Combine one of these with a good fast-on holster, and you will be much less likely to find yourself standing in a "Stop N Rob" with nothing in your hand but a wallet.

My system is a Kahr K9 in a fanny pack. This allows me to carry the gun, two spare magazines, keys, wallet, checkbook, cell phone, and change in one package.
This means everything I might need is in one package that's fast to put on.

Since in order to take the wallet, I have to take the entire pack, I never "Leave home without it".

This allows the entire process NOT to become "Anal". There's no "Wait honey, I've got to put all this gun stuff on". It simply becomes as normal as grabbing the keys.

Most people today don't even think about putting a seatbelt on when they get into the car. It's something that's become so common-place we no longer even notice we're doing it.

Select the right gun and carry method, and it too becomes something you no longer even think about.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 9:12:28 AM EST
My wife kids me that it is a crutch. I can't go outside the house w/o it.

She has to take her purse and her sunglasses, I have to take my H&K.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 3:34:54 PM EST
it's better than American Express. Don't leave home without it!

That said, I haven't left the house yet in over 10 yrs without mine. (haven't forgotten it yet...forgot my wallet with CCW license once or twice, but NEVER forgot my weapon)
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:20:16 PM EST


'nuff said

J
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:22:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
I carry everywhere, all the time. I have a weapon in arm's reach in the house.



Ditto.....
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 8:06:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2004 2:18:57 PM EST by cqb-NH]
i carry my g17 topped off (18), no xtra mag,
i figure that if i needed more rounds
i should think about moving out of the city.

My gf hates it when i carry, she doesnt understand why
till that one night we got followed home from the bar.




Link Posted: 9/8/2004 8:24:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:
24/7-365.




+1
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 8:27:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By cqb-NH:
i carry my g17 topped off (18), no xtra mag,
i figure that if i needed more rounds
i should think about moving out of the city.

My gf hates it when i carry, she doesnt understand why
till that one night we got followed home from the bar.





Mine is the same way but I have not had a situation arrise while with her. So she still hates it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 10:52:50 AM EST
Everyone is right on the money with the comments.

Faris, when I see a guy with a fanny pack, I think gun. Not a
bad deterant in itself. I think that it could also cause you to
draw fire, such as in a Stop & Rob situation. I personally am
comforted to know/think that someone else is carrying (fanny pack),
especially when it has been someone I know, which has
happened. I'm not dinging you, you are right on with your
comments. I just prefer IWB, most of the time.

Another plus for my CCW is am I more confident when
I have to walk into the dark corner of a parking lot or
dark street. I think the confident walk is communicated to
people or perps that might be watching, i.e. they're inclined
to leave this person alone.

The other side of that coin is, if I see a situation that I feel
may be bad, if I can turn & go the other way, I will. It's because
I understand the power & the responsibility that goes along
with that thing that's constantly poking my right kidney.

Great thread!

Johnny C!
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:50:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By NateM4:

Originally Posted By cqb-NH:
My gf hates it when i carry, she doesnt understand why
till that one night we got followed home from the bar.



Mine is the same way but I have not had a situation arrise while with her. So she still hates it.



+1. My wife "kids me" about it when I CCW, and in fact has told me it makes her "uncomfortable". She can't explain why of course, but it's a vague uneasy feeling ranging from "oh the girls (my step-daughters) might see it" to "you might get stopped by the police and hassled over it" to "why do you think you need it?".

I've told her flat out.. I will carry whenever we are outside the house, and that it's like life insurance... I hope to never need it, but lord knows if I need it I intend on having it.

She grew up around rifles and pistols in the country so it's not 'the idea' of them that bothers her at all, just when I CCW.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 2:16:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2004 2:18:16 PM EST by cqb-NH]
at work we joke around with the phrase "use of deadly force".
The Air Force says you have to articulate why you drew down on someone,
well, some of us Army guys use common sense, once we see a knife or gun
or hear a ticking backpack, we'll draw and start walking backwards
(cover/concealment).

so when i ccw those thoughts are with me,
but common sense kicks in and says, protect you and yours
and leave articulation to csi.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 3:23:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By HBAR16:

Originally Posted By NateM4:

Originally Posted By cqb-NH:
My gf hates it when i carry, she doesnt understand why
till that one night we got followed home from the bar.



Mine is the same way but I have not had a situation arrise while with her. So she still hates it.



+1. My wife "kids me" about it when I CCW, and in fact has told me it makes her "uncomfortable". She can't explain why of course, but it's a vague uneasy feeling ranging from "oh the girls (my step-daughters) might see it" to "you might get stopped by the police and hassled over it" to "why do you think you need it?".

I've told her flat out.. I will carry whenever we are outside the house, and that it's like life insurance... I hope to never need it, but lord knows if I need it I intend on having it.

She grew up around rifles and pistols in the country so it's not 'the idea' of them that bothers her at all, just when I CCW.


Mine is one of those that hate the idea of guns all together. I have tried to argue logic with her but she has no logic.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:30:54 PM EST
Does anyone else chose not to go places where you can't carry?

I have a vacation planned in Puerto Vallarta this Christmas but I am now thinking about not going.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:32:56 PM EST
I always have something with me whenever I leave the house.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:43:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2004 6:51:09 PM EST by Ky_Bob]

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
I carry everywhere, all the time. I have a weapon in arm's reach in the house.



Great minds think alike.

Another point. You guys with anti-gun or at least neutral wives, why do you let them know you are carrying? It should always be a maybe in their minds. You wouldn't want them to "out" you in a tense situation.
Bob
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 6:53:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
I carry everywhere, all the time. I have a weapon in arm's reach in the house.



Great minds think alike.

Another point. You guys with anti-gun or at least neutral wives, why do you let them know you are carrying? It should always be a maybe in their minds. You wouldn't want them to "out" you in a tense situation.
Bob


Mine know because she know that I always carry.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 7:01:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By THellURider:
Can't be half the time. College campus...

Though the thought has occured to me......nevermind...



That college stuff never stopped me. Those laws are for criminals anyways
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 7:17:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By SS109:
Does anyone else chose not to go places where you can't carry?

I have a vacation planned in Puerto Vallarta this Christmas but I am now thinking about not going.


I don't not go because I can't carry, but I do take that into consideration. If there is a simular place that I am allowed to carry then I will most likely go there.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:39:43 PM EST
I'm trying hard to incorporate it as much as I can.

Link Posted: 9/10/2004 6:57:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
I carry everywhere, all the time. I have a weapon in arm's reach in the house.



Great minds think alike.

Another point. You guys with anti-gun or at least neutral wives, why do you let them know you are carrying? It should always be a maybe in their minds. You wouldn't want them to "out" you in a tense situation. EJECT EJECT EJECT
Bob



Fixed it for you
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:54:41 AM EST
Like packing a change of underwear.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 3:02:43 PM EST
"Never leave home without it!" it used to apply to American Express too.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 3:06:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mr_Happy1:
I carry as often as legally possible. Seems like everytime I forget it I end up wishing I had, the last time I got lost in South Dallas.



Chu got a problem with Sout Dallas, homie???

You just haven't had the right escort. Wait, that doesn't sound right... tour guide! yeah, that's it!!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:23:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By SS109:
Does anyone else chose not to go places where you can't carry?

I have a vacation planned in Puerto Vallarta this Christmas but I am now thinking about not going.



Yeah, to an extent.

But really, the only places that i have enough time off to visit, allow me to carry.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:11:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 12:16:23 AM EST by Brecourt_Manor]
This thread depresses me...

I remember reading something on www.packing.org that told you what is required to get a CCW in California. Different countys had different rules and regulations. I got to the Los Angleles County part ( i live in LA county) and it said nothing is required for a CCW. I read further and noticed that nothing is required because there are no CCW issued in LA county...

I guess some celeberities and celeberitie's body guards are granted a CCW but no one in the general public....

Another notable topic: 2 of the biggest anti-gun politicians Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein(both Democratic Senators from California) have asked and been issued a CCW for self protection... How is that for hypocracy.....
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