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Posted: 9/11/2002 7:00:49 PM EDT

OK...I put the Wolf ammo into the HK. Loaded the 10 rounder and tried to cycle it through. As soon as I put 1 in the chamber it will not release it. What am I doing wrong? The owner is flying in a C-130 somehwere in the Indian ocean...so I can't get his help.

I put the ammo in the mag..loaded it and put 1 into the chamber...it will not cycle, I've tried changing safety/fire..I've taken the mag out..put an empty mag in. Nadda..what is going on?

Thanks...HK newbie here.
NAKED

Posted: 9/11/2002 8:11:30 PM EDT

[#1]

Can you be more specific? Is there a round in the chamber, and when you attempt to cycle it, it is stuck? Are you using enough force to pull the slide? What model HK?
Art in KY

Posted: 9/11/2002 8:41:09 PM EDT

[#2]

Yes...there is a round in the chamber. I am using plenty of force pulling the slide. This is whats bothering me...I'm pulling like a sumbitch and it will not eject the round. It will only pull back about a 1/4 inch and will not go farther. I'm frustrated...I'm thinking I'm not doing something right. It's like the round is jammed in the chamber and will not kick out.

HK USP .45 blued.

Arghhhhhhhhhhh!

NAKED

Posted: 9/12/2002 5:16:54 AM EDT

[#3]

The odds are that you're right, the round is stuck. Time to field strip, and gentle tap out the round from the cone end. Use a wooden dowl if possible to make sure that you don't damage the crown.

Wolf uses a lacquer coating on their ammo and my guess is that is what is holding it in. Once you get this one out, change to a brass cased ammo.

Posted: 9/12/2002 6:23:07 AM EDT

[#4]

If the slide wont move back, you cant field strip an HK. Slide has to be moved rearward to push out the slide stop.

Is it going fully into battery?
Make sure the mag is out, and put the safety ON, and keep your finger away from the trigger while trying to remedy this. Just to be safe since you have a live round in the chamber. I'm kinda at a loss here as to how to get the slide back. Would have to be able to look at it first hand.

Posted: 9/12/2002 6:42:52 AM EDT

[#5]

Naked-Wait. You're hand cycling this ammo? Not firing it?
Take the piece to a range, make sure the slide is in battery and shoot the damned thing..the casing will then be easily removed, the way it should be..

Don't use live rounds for function check.

Meplat-

Posted: 9/12/2002 7:35:47 AM EDT

[#6]

It sould like the ammo. I've tried Wolf in my AR and had the case stick after firing due to the lacquer. I would take it to the range and fire the round (making sure it is in battery).
Even if the casing does not extract, at least you can now work safely on tapping the case out. On my AR it didn't take much tapping to release it.

Posted: 9/12/2002 10:26:57 AM EDT

[#7]

I went out and shot it. Round went bang and ejected the casing...no problem. Now, will this happen again? I'm almost afraid for a jam or worse, a KB.

Thanks for all the help...after I shot it, I knew it must be the shell sticking somehow. I will clean the gun today and go shooting again tomorrow.

Thanks again,
NAKED

Posted: 9/12/2002 12:27:04 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Naked-Wait. You're hand cycling this ammo? Not firing it?
Take the piece to a range, make sure the slide is in battery and shoot the damned thing..the casing will then be easily removed, the way it should be..

Don't use live rounds for function check.

Meplat-

I should have remembered how we fixed things in the Army. When all else fails, use brute force.

Posted: 9/12/2002 3:03:13 PM EDT

[#9]

Try different ammo before anything else.
Art in KY

Posted: 9/12/2002 4:05:42 PM EDT

[#10]

Are you "riding" the slide down to slow it down? If so the extractor is not going over the rim of the case. Another thing....Putting wolf on a HK is almost a sin.

Posted: 9/12/2002 5:48:56 PM EDT

[#11]

Hawkeye- I've seen this "stuck case" situation a bunch of times while working at a friend's shop..It's not uncommon in fairly new firearms, and probably would happen with any ammo..

Naked- It won't if you shoot it through the piece.. But feel free to try something else..

Meplat-

Posted: 9/14/2002 5:54:57 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Hawkeye- I've seen this "stuck case" situation a bunch of times while working at a friend's shop..It's not uncommon in fairly new firearms, and probably would happen with any ammo..

Naked- It won't if you shoot it through the piece.. But feel free to try something else..

Meplat-

Guess I have been lucky. Never seen one do that (and I've fondled my fair share of new handguns mind you

), at least not the way Naked described.

Posted: 9/18/2002 11:17:39 AM EDT

[#13]

I have seen stuck rounds in chambers numerous times. I work as a Match Director and IDPA Safety Officer and see thousands and thousands of rounds fired downrange every month. Most of the time it is either a dirty chamber, tight match chamber or an oversized round. There are 2 ways that I use to manually clear a stuck round from a chamber. The first, which works about 99% of the time is to grasp the slide firmly with the left hand over the top with the thumb of left hand towards you. Then take your right hand and open it and strike the rear of the grip with the web of your open hand. The next way is to use a hard surface and place the edge of the front of the slide against it and push. Be sure you clear the line b4 you do this.

Posted: 9/18/2002 4:52:13 PM EDT

[#14]

My H&K Tactical will freeze shut shooting Wolf ammo. I am not a Wolf hater and my 1911's love it, but the H&K will not take it.
Just find some brass ammo for the H&K.

Posted: 9/21/2002 2:15:55 PM EDT

[#15]

Got a P7M13, with no round in the chamber, that the slide won't come back. What is the deal? I need help as well! Let me know what you find out, please!

Posted: 9/21/2002 8:37:56 PM EDT

[#16]

ARGON,
I am not real familiar with this particular firearm, but the first thing that comes to my mind is your slide stop has worked its way out slighty tieing up the slide. Try that and let us know. Good luck!

Posted: 9/21/2002 8:40:16 PM EDT

[#17]

Ahhh Wolf ammo.....got caught with our pants now did we?

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