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Posted: 12/20/2011 1:37:30 PM EDT
My room mate wants to buy a handgun but only wants to spend 300-400 bucks. I told him to save up more cash but he just turned 21 and is insistant on buying one. I'm an AR guy and the only handgun i have is a .357 black hawk. He wants a semi-auto, prefered caliber .45, but i know at that price that might not be possible. What would you guys reccomend in that price range? Im a handgun noob help me out.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 1:40:40 PM EDT
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 1:40:41 PM EDT
Rock Island Armory .45
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 1:42:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dougez1:
Rock Island Armory .45


I saw this but never heard of them he actually wants a 1911 style hand gun so it would be perfect, any other vouchers for this?
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 1:51:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mkgunz:
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.


This.

Link Posted: 12/20/2011 1:56:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mkgunz:
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.


+1

save up another $100 and get a new Glock or SIG P250 (both offered in .45 if thats what he wants) to name a few in the $400-500 range.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:03:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mkgunz:
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.


If he can't find a trade in Glock, I had really good luck with my Ruger P95 in 9mm. It was my first gun when I turned 21 and I sold it about 3 years ago. Never had a malfunction, although it is heavy and uglier than sin.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:06:30 PM EDT
if he only has that much loot to purchase a handgun he won't have the money to buy enough ammo to be proficient. I'd get a .22 version of a 1911 and save up for the .45.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:12:29 PM EDT
yeah I'm tryin to convince him to save up, amazes me how people will buy a gun and only have enough money to buy a box of rounds and shoot it once then put it in the closet.......
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:14:09 PM EDT
Yeah, used Glock is right up this guy's alley.

I'd suggest he look hard at the 9mm and .40 models as well as the .45s
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:15:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mkgunz:
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.


Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:16:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver:
yeah I'm tryin to convince him to save up, amazes me how people will buy a gun and only have enough money to buy a box of rounds and shoot it once then put it in the closet.......


Have you told him the "Buy once, cry once" saying?

My first handgun was an HK USP 9 that I bought new in 2007 and still have.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:16:37 PM EDT
The EAA Witness .45s can be had for under $400

Taurus PT 145 and 247 and 845 should under $400 if the dealer isn't raping you

WDS

Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:41:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver:
Originally Posted By dougez1:
Rock Island Armory .45


I saw this but never heard of them he actually wants a 1911 style hand gun so it would be perfect, any other vouchers for this?


I'll vouch for RIA...I have 3. FS, FS Tactical and an Officers Model.
I also have the Remington R1911, and a Springfield TRP ( just bought it today)
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:09:55 PM EDT
tell your friend if he is ready to jump on a deal there is a fnp 45 and 3 mags at scheels and they have financing available the one in the the fox valley there
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:37:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WTProtector:
Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver:
Originally Posted By dougez1:
Rock Island Armory .45


I saw this but never heard of them he actually wants a 1911 style hand gun so it would be perfect, any other vouchers for this?


I'll vouch for RIA...I have 3. FS, FS Tactical and an Officers Model.
I also have the Remington R1911, and a Springfield TRP ( just bought it today)

I'll also recommend a RIA. Much better chance of finding one than a used Glock in this price range. Cant really go wrong with either for a budget .45, in my opinion.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:44:54 PM EDT
if he is looking for new(and decides not to get a 1911) he can get a sig pro 2022 for $399 and a CZ p07 duty for $399 as well. both are great guns for the money.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 4:21:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2011 4:23:47 PM EDT by gunnut284]
A Sig P2022 would be decent, a used Glock would be good as well. I've bought a lot of high quality handguns for under $400 but some of that is waiting for the right deal. A .22 handgun would be a good choice as well, add a couple bricks of ammo and learn to shoot well.

ETA: I've heard good reports on the RIA 1911s too.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 5:12:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2011 5:19:58 PM EDT by Mavrick]
Either a new Rock or a new 2022. Why get a used trade in when you can get new. I own both and carry both. Both have have funtioned flawlessly after break in period.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 6:51:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2011 6:52:32 PM EDT by colklink]
Originally Posted By Mavrick:
Either a new Rock or a new 2022. Why get a used trade in when you can get new. I own both and carry both. Both have have funtioned flawlessly after break in period.


Because very few will shoot a handgun enough to break it in let alone wear the guns internals. And that includes LEO trade ins. Lots of holster/finish wear, little wear on the internal mechanical parts. To me if the price difference is $50 or less I lean towards the new gun. More than that I lean toward the used one.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 7:16:03 PM EDT
Palmetto State Armory has some Kahr CW45's @ $350.00. Might want to give them a shout!
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 7:23:23 PM EDT
Based on those criteria Ruger P345. They are solid, accurate, reliable and have been around for a while. Either remove the magazine safety or do not dry fire without a mag in.

I wouldn't shop for any firearm based on price. He needs to figure out what he wants first, then budget for it.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 7:24:46 PM EDT
RIA 1911s are good. But eventually you might want to replace some parts. Extractor, hammer and sear, maybe trigger.

But I have one with 500 rounds and it runs good.

I say a Sig Pro 2022,.or EAA witness.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 7:26:57 PM EDT
Used glock.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 9:33:59 PM EDT
I really like my Smith & Wesson SD9, they run $350-400 but are only available in 9mm or .40 S&W.

SD40 $349 at Bud's
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 10:54:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 3:02:16 AM EDT
ruger 345
Go for it.

billy boy
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 6:06:28 AM EDT
Used Glock or S&W 3rd gen (5906 and similar models)
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 6:16:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 6:40:23 AM EDT
You can find Smith 4566's in that price range sometimes. The other option is an off brand. Witness, Star, Llama etc.. They can sometimes be found for under $300
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 8:00:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Furyataurus:
Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver:
yeah I'm tryin to convince him to save up, amazes me how people will buy a gun and only have enough money to buy a box of rounds and shoot it once then put it in the closet.......


Have you told him the "Buy once, cry once" saying?

My first handgun was an HK USP 9 that I bought new in 2007 and still have.


Way back in 2007? You're a real old timer.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 9:19:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2011 7:46:49 PM EDT by thecreeper23]
There are scads of excellent police and foreign .mil trade-in sidearms on the market, in a variety of calibers. For $400 or less, your friend can obtain any manner of tried and true combat sidearm in nearly any caliber he would like. Watch gunbroker, the EE and some of the following websites:

Sig P226 9mm for $370
FN Hi-Power 9mm for $350
NIB Sig 2340 with night sights in .40 S&W for $325
Beretta 96G (decocker only) in .40 for $365
Gen 2 Glock 22 in .40 S&W for $350
Gen 3 Glock 22 in .40 S&W for $370
Trade-in P220s in .45ACP for $400

Used police firearms can be an excellent buy. If the holster wear bothers him, he can save up another $200 and have it refinished to like new.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 9:20:23 AM EDT
honestly i vote for revolver ... nice used S&W or Ruger

OR

new Sig 2022, used Ruger P95 (because i see them for $300 used around me), RIA 1911s are awesome I hear but .45s are expensive and he NEEDS to shoot ..
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 12:20:56 PM EDT
Used xd's usually go cheaper than used glocks so thats a decent option.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 12:23:01 PM EDT
Bersa Thunder .380. You can get them at academy for just over $300 after tax. Nice little pocket gun that is very reliable.
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 11:38:56 AM EDT
XD9

I realize he wants a 45 but 9mm is much cheaper. You can buy a used xd for low 300's. It'd be my pick
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 12:27:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mkgunz:
Police trade in Glock is about all I can think of other than some piece of crap.


This ^

Link Posted: 12/22/2011 3:16:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 6:12:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 6:20:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 7:48:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Macadore:
SIG P250

Sold out––but a good choice.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 6:18:41 AM EDT
IDK where all these folks are finding glocks for 300-400 but in my neck of the woods its VERY hard to find one for around $450 even police trade ins.
but of course gun prices are subject to alot of change based on alot of things and location being one of them.

here is what i would recommend.
CZ82 [you can get a sweet shooting pistol that will work great for defense and mags and ammo in his price range]
RIA 1911 [its really his only option in the 1911 field for a servicable 1911 at his price point]
S&W 3rd gen [great pistols and overlooked quite often
taurus pt92 or used beretta 92fs [both are great pistols and you may be able to find a beretta in his price range but the taurus is just as good IMO and the best pistol taurus makes]
many good revolvers in his price point..tell him not to overlook the wheelguns
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 7:27:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By dan1802:
IDK where all these folks are finding glocks for 300-400 but in my neck of the woods its VERY hard to find one for around $450 even police trade ins.
but of course gun prices are subject to alot of change based on alot of things and location being one of them.


I posted links above to Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glock 22s for $350 and $370, respectively, at Summit Gun Broker and AIM.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 7:50:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2011 8:42:24 AM EDT by LaRue556]
I'm not a Glock guy...but I agree with the trade-in Glock.
Also: CDNN has M&Ps for under $400 with rebate.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 10:11:03 AM EDT
3 of my 6 Glocks were under $300. Those were all from friends/co-workers though at better than average deals. Police trade ins are regularly in the $300-350 range which should still be unter $400 with transfer.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 11:48:20 AM EDT
Another Ruger vote. Should be able to find a P90, P97, or P345 used in good shape for your budget zone.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 1:37:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2011 1:39:57 PM EDT by kevinb120]
Depends on what EXACTLY he wants the gun to do, and of course his experience with firearms, there are a whole different set of options based on what the tool needs to do


-Just getting started in shooting altogether and want to learn the 'right way': one of the 'standard' .22's
-A reliable drawer gun for protection with firearms experience: P series Ruger/RIA .45/various revolvers, used glocks, etc etc etc
-Has some experience and wants to get into shooting as a hobby with an auto: 9MM autos of all sorts(ammo costs are 60% of .45)

Or does he want to just have it as some reaffirmation of 'manliness'?, you may want to spend some time with him to teach him gun safety and basic shooting skills. You know the personality type if it is there.

Firearms are similar to cars: CHEAP, RELIABLE, or SEXY: you can only get TWO out of the three in any given gun.
Link Posted: 12/23/2011 5:33:30 PM EDT
I'd say either a used G19 or G17.

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Link Posted: 12/24/2011 5:21:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/24/2011 6:12:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thecreeper23:
Originally Posted By dan1802:
IDK where all these folks are finding glocks for 300-400 but in my neck of the woods its VERY hard to find one for around $450 even police trade ins.
but of course gun prices are subject to alot of change based on alot of things and location being one of them.


I posted links above to Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glock 22s for $350 and $370, respectively, at Summit Gun Broker and AIM.


Right, but you're also talking, what? ~$20 shipping and $20-50 in transfer cost. Those could easily go over $400 and you have to go though the hassle of finding someone who wants to transfer it.

Sometimes it's easier just to find one locally, but a LOT of places also seem to think that used Glocks are made of gold.

You're better off finding a private seller who has more reasonable expectations.
Link Posted: 12/24/2011 6:18:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Coltcrazy:
Another Ruger vote. Should be able to find a P90, P97, or P345 used in good shape for your budget zone.


Yeah, bought a P97 for $250 not so long ago. It's a damn good gun for the price.

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