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Try reading. I openly admit I haven't seen an XDM in a ransom rest. I don't care what you have shot. I don't care what I have shot. Ransom resting removes the biggest variable, which is the human.
HK's are notorious for doing incredibly well in accuracy tests, from everything I have read, and everything I have seen- this includes 9, 40, and .45. We all know this is about 9mm, and nobody claimed otherwise. It is however fair to compair the triggers based on the platform, as the mechanisms between calibers are nearly identical on both the brands.
BTW, its been proven that that little Oring does virtually nothing to increase accuracy. HK's ransom rest incredibly well regardless of whether or not they have an O ring.
There is no pepsi challenge. I for one would love to see XDM ransom rest testing, however my guess is that the P30L will quite handily shoot tighter groups.
Feel free to prove me wrong, I'd love to see the data. But based on the history of the HK platform used to make the P30, I wouldn't expect to see the XDM shoot better.
The Pepsi challenge thing was a joke, but does not come across that way when written, didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
Comparing history of platforms says nothing for the new model. Changes have been made. Nearly identical is not the same.
XD and XDm are different platforms just like HK45 and P30L are different platforms; may look identical but are different.
9mm and 45 pistol dimensions are different and feel different when fired from identical platforms.
It apears as if your comments are on what you read from others, who probably have not shot said pistols in question and simply type the same nonsense; then get offended when called on it.
Try to turn it around all you want. You tried to provide feedback without actual hands on experience so you should provide the data not cost variation or past pistol model history.
Ransom rest testing has many problems in itself.
How many times do you carry a ransom rest in your back pocket in case you need to shoot? Know anyone who does?
People will shoot differently for different pistols based on how they interact with the pistol, no matter what the results from a Ransom rest are interpreted as.
No one said HK's were not accurate.
I think I understand what your trying to say that HK is probably a better pistol based on history merits, but a person just never knows until the platform proves itself.
The Browning BDM is a perfect example of what I'm saying.
For a $50 difference, I'd get the HK even if it doesn't group better.
You opened yourself up for scrutiny when you posted on a public forum as did I.
You want data but post assured based on warm fuzzy feelings.
I would like to know which seems more accurate and handles better based on experience not biased opinion.
If I offended you, sorry that was not my intentions. I just want some feedback based on experience with both platforms.
Someone asked which pistol is more accurate.
If the answer were that simple, everyone would say "go shoot them and find out". Nobody can predict how he will shoot, so we can't try and factor that in when discussing accuracy, right? I can't read minds, so I have to assume he wants to know which platform is inherently more mechanically accurate. Mechanical accuracy doesn't mean anything if you can't shoot it accurately, the only problem is, most/all people know that. Therefor, when someone asks about the accuracy difference, the best way to compare them is ransom rest results. There is no scrutiny involved, thats just the way it is. This is why all relevant accuracy tests are done with ransom rests across the board. I don't care what some other guy can do, I care what the GUN can do. The rest is up to the shooter, and no...nobody expects anyone to carry around a ransom rest. I know what the gun can do, now lets see what I can do. They are two different things, but only one is valid when discussing accuracy between platforms. Because like I said, we cannot read minds or predict the future and detirmine how each individual shooter will react to a platform.
He didn't ask "which one will I shoot more accurately", he asked "which one is more accurate".
I couldn't answer the first one (because nobody can, except him), so I merely said that the P30 series ransom rests very well, better than most. Even if I hadn't shot the P30, why would I have to to know that it ransom rests very well, which is the only claim I made?
Please tell me where I made an error, sir?