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Posted: 10/15/2008 10:52:57 AM EST
Wife was issued a new Glock 22 for work. She's been shooting it about a year now and its been 100% reliable.

We went the the range today and shoot some 170Gn FMJ loads loaded to make major in IPSC. (wife usually shoots a Colt Gold Cup 1911 NM in IPSC).

The Glock 22 has some harsh muzzle flip. We both shot my Glock 26 with 8-pound connector better than the Glock 22 with the 5.5-pound connector. Had flat primers and some case buldges in the unsupported portion of the chamber with the G22. I'm sticking with my 9mm guns loaded with RA9T or HST2.

Wife has to use the Glock 22 at work. But for IPSC shes sticking with the 1911.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:01:56 AM EST
Muzzle flip was the #1 reason I got away from 40S&W. However, I was using H&K USP40's, which made it seem even more pronounced.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:02:41 AM EST
.40 S&W puzzles me.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:06:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By 87GN:
.40 S&W puzzles me.


I dont think the performance gains are worth the decrease in capacity and increased muzzle flip over a 9mm loaded with best in caliber ammo.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:08:56 AM EST
IMO, the best platform for .40 is the USP. Glocks just don't do it right.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:18:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By 87GN:
.40 S&W puzzles me.


I don't think the performance gains are worth the decrease in capacity and increased muzzle flip over a 9mm loaded with best in caliber ammo.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:42:24 AM EST
Glock 23 .40 cal here.

I can say it takes some practice.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 12:50:50 PM EST
I love my Glock 22. I wouldn't argue against a 17 with +P+, though.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 1:00:46 PM EST
I agree.
My Glock 22 is my least favorite handgun I own.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 1:16:09 PM EST
Had a 3rd Gen G22 as my 1st Glock. 15 rounds of .40, light weight, what could be better? Just didn't work for me. My hands are mediumish and I could never get a solid lock on the grip. Forget about one handed shooting. Sold it. Later picked up a 2nd Gen G19 and later a 2nd gen G17. I LOVE THE G19. Will be picking up a 3rd gen as soon as my permit comes through. Actually considering a 3rd gen G23 as well. The G19/23 size frames arethe perfect sized Glocks.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 2:06:59 PM EST
I have yet to shoot a G22, but damn the G23 works for me very well. Granted its not as easy to shoot as a 19, but I can get the job done. I have no problems with .40 S&W here.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 2:18:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Glockin_It:
I have yet to shoot a G22, but damn the G23 works for me very well. Granted its not as easy to shoot as a 19, but I can get the job done. I have no problems with .40 S&W here.


I prefer my Gen II 23 to the wifes Gen III 22.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 2:27:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
I prefer my Gen II 23 to the wifes Gen III 22.


Hrmm, now I'm curious....I am going to have to try out a G22 someday to see if it just that you can get a better grip on the 23 vs the full size 22. You would think larger gun less recoil.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 3:59:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Glockin_It:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
I prefer my Gen II 23 to the wifes Gen III 22.


Hrmm, now I'm curious....I am going to have to try out a G22 someday to see if it just that you can get a better grip on the 23 vs the full size 22. You would think larger gun less recoil.


I think it has more to do with the placement of the finger grooves and thumb rests on the Gen III guns. With a Gen III you hold it how the grip forces you to. With Gen I and Gen II you hold it however you shoot it the best.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 4:17:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By ORinTX:
IMO, the best platform for .40 is the USP. Glocks just don't do it right.

I also had an HK USP40 (full size). Yes it is alot softer to shoot than my G22. I was wondering if anyone has tried the Dual Action Buffer Spring from EFK FIRE DRAGON? Does it really soften the recoil? How's the reliability?
Here's a link: www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=7683&title=DUAL%20ACTION%20BUFFER%20SPRING%20for%20GLOCK­~
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 5:39:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By 87GN:
.40 S&W puzzles me.


I dont think the performance gains are worth the decrease in capacity and increased muzzle flip over a 9mm loaded with best in caliber ammo.


Exactly.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 7:57:17 PM EST
Interesting take. You're right, OP, not a thing wrong with a 9mm, with the right ammo.

That said, I do love my G23. And my G17. I agree there is a little more muzzle flip, but a few thousand rounds down the road, you do get used to it.

I'll carry either one of those two I mentioned, love 'em both. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

At first a .40 will seem slightly "flippy", compared to 9mm, but really, you do get used to it. At least I did.

This of course requires a determined effort, which is not really necessary if you just like the 9mm and are fine with it. I do like 9mm too...............can never decide..........
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 8:38:35 PM EST
Get a 357 sig barrel for it. Then you'll have all that 357 Magnum stopping power x15!!!!
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 8:51:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2008 8:52:41 PM EST by The_Friendly_Sponge]

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
We went the the range today and shoot some 170Gn FMJ loads loaded to make major in IPSC. (wife usually shoots a Colt Gold Cup 1911 NM in IPSC).


Generally, IPSC/USPSA folks use either 180 gr. or 200 gr. bullets to make major. A 170 gr. bullet is going to have to be traveling damn close to 1000 fps to make major and that's going to make the round pretty snappy - especially in a lightweight Glock. We generally use 180's or 200's because less powder is required (always a good things with .40 S&W), but also because the recoil is less significant.

I agree the G22 is prone to muzzle flip with hot loads. The G35 is really the better choice for IPSC competition if you're going to use a Glock.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 9:36:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Friendly_Sponge:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
We went the the range today and shoot some 170Gn FMJ loads loaded to make major in IPSC. (wife usually shoots a Colt Gold Cup 1911 NM in IPSC).


Generally, IPSC/USPSA folks use either 180 gr. or 200 gr. bullets to make major. A 170 gr. bullet is going to have to be traveling damn close to 1000 fps to make major and that's going to make the round pretty snappy - especially in a lightweight Glock.


I was shooting a 170Gn FMJ-FP at 1050 FPS.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:08:00 PM EST
Have had my GenII 22 eleven years...carried it all & over have likely put over 10k rounds through it....bought a G17 because I liked the different grip, and only then did I notice when shooting my 22 that the muzzle did flip...going to get a 34 or 21 next; but, agree, there is a difference! They are both great guns...v/r WaltK
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:44:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 4:47:14 PM EST by ratm4705]
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Originally Posted By AR15fan:
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Originally Posted By 87GN:
.40 S&W puzzles me.


I dont think the performance gains are worth the decrease in capacity and increased muzzle flip over a 9mm loaded with best in caliber ammo.



I couldn't agree with you more..

EDIT: The cheaper 9mm practice ammo is a plus too.....
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