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Posted: 8/29/2015 3:00:16 AM EDT
NOT trying to compare them to checkering, but how do they feel to you, compared to a smooth front strap?  Do you even notice they are there, or do you feel like they help, or does it seem to be more aesthetic?

ETA: Especially for the more classic ones, not the ones that go across.
Something like this:

Link Posted: 8/29/2015 4:30:28 AM EDT
I notice they are there and there is certainly a little more grip but nothing huge. My sigs with the horizontal serrations makes a bigger difference but there are a lot more of them.

I don't know that I would pay to have it done. My escalation would be skateboard tape straight to checkering.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 5:51:45 AM EDT
Have them on acouple of my 1911's. More traction than nothing.
Best is to have checkering. 30 lines per inch is my favorite. Gives plenty of grip without tearing up your hand.
If you wear shooting gloves like some of the military guys, then you could go a little courser , 20 or 25 LPI.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 7:06:38 AM EDT
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Have them on acouple of my 1911's. More traction than nothing.
Best is to have checkering. 30 lines per inch is my favorite. Gives plenty of grip without tearing up your hand.
If you wear shooting gloves like some of the military guys, then you could go a little courser , 20 or 25 LPI.
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This...plus some VZ Gatorbacks (gloves req'd!).
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 7:09:53 AM EDT
my 1911s were competition guns, and I went straight to checkering and stippling... I actually preferred the stippling on the later guns... I'm not into aesthetics

Link Posted: 8/29/2015 8:58:33 AM EDT
I like them on my 226
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 9:54:29 AM EDT
Can't help you on a 1911, but on a Beretta 92 series, they don't do anything and once my hands get sweaty it's even worse.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:02:49 AM EDT
Never cared for checkering on the front strap on a 1911.  MSH checkering is OK.  YMMV

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Link Posted: 8/29/2015 12:06:42 PM EDT
Hate them.  All of my grip is in the grips so the front just feels weird and uncomfortable to me. Only go with them if you feel your fingers slipping while firing.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 12:19:45 PM EDT
If you want to try checkering, I suggest getting the wilson removable checkered front strap.  It is $10 and IMO it works well.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 9:16:43 PM EDT
I have the serrated front strap on my SW1911.



It is better than smooth, but not a whole lot better.



I put on a set of the old Pachmayr rubber grips with the wrap-around checkered rubber front strap, and it is much easier to hold onto when it's 95 degrees and 100% humidity and I'm soaked with sweat.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 9:58:22 PM EDT
I like them. Not as good as checkering, but I'm not a fan of checkering anyway.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 10:10:54 PM EDT
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I notice they are there and there is certainly a little more grip but nothing huge. My sigs with the horizontal serrations makes a bigger difference but there are a lot more of them.

I don't know that I would pay to have it done. My escalation would be skateboard tape straight to checkering.
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I agree.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:41:05 PM EDT
I recently read somewhere that any front-strap treatment "allows you to get an improper grip, and easily keep it." I have skateboard tape on my RIA, and practice my draw a LOT (pretty much almost every day), and if I get a bad grab, those words end up ringing true. Learn and practice your draw stroke, and the front-strap treatment may become one of those chicken/egg kinda things.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:55:09 PM EDT
Always liked them better than checkering.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:59:37 PM EDT

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:12:14 PM EDT

Like most modern 1911 features, they are completely unnecessary.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:42:07 PM EDT
I hand checker mine.

I like 20lpi the best



I think this shot was a 25lpi   IIRC



another one, in progesss...


When all the custom work is done, I send them to METALIFE for industrial hardchrome








Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:45:30 PM EDT
Had those on my Colt Gunsite.  I think they look cool but they didn't do anything for grip.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:58:17 AM EDT
GT-5000 grip tape for me
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:42:23 AM EDT
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I hand checker mine.

I like 20lpi the best

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/derek45/media/1911/STI046.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/1911/STI046.jpg</a>

I think this shot was a 25lpi   IIRC

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/derek45/media/1911/40206048.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/1911/40206048.jpg</a>

another one, in progesss...
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/derek45/media/1911/checker.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/1911/checker.jpg</a>

When all the custom work is done, I send them to METALIFE for industrial hardchrome

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/derek45/media/1911/1911pistols076.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/1911/1911pistols076.jpg</a>

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/derek45/media/1911/1911pistols040.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/1911/1911pistols040.jpg</a>




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As I've said, not a fan of checkering, but that is nice work.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 12:15:13 PM EDT
one of the keys to shooting a handgun is consistency

if the gun is moving around during recoil, you won't be consistent

making the handgun grippy with checkering or skateboard grip-tape can help a lot

I've heard gunshow commandos make the comment that my checkering will tear up hands if you shoot a lot
LOLOLOL

I shoot A LOT

I've been to classes were we shoot 1000 rounds in two days

my paws have no troubles
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 1:20:14 PM EDT
I have a series 70 gold cup with the serrations. To be honest, I really don't notice any difference between the serrations and a smooth front strap. I put the precut VZ tape on my smooth front straps and it provides some pretty serious traction without being TRP aggressive.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 1:22:04 PM EDT
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one of the keys to shooting a handgun is consistency

if the gun is moving around during recoil, you won't be consistent

making the handgun grippy with checkering or skateboard grip-tape can help a lot

I've heard gunshow commandos make the comment that my checkering will tear up hands if you shoot a lot
LOLOLOL

I shoot A LOT

I've been to classes were we shoot 1000 rounds in two days

my paws have no troubles
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I've done week long classes with pretty aggressive checkering and had no trouble with my hands.  I've had more trouble with my trigger finger and knuckle from Glocks than from aggressive grip textures.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 1:22:14 PM EDT
I don't care for serrations.  Much rather have checkering and serrations are worse than a smooth front strap IMO.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 4:23:06 PM EDT
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one of the keys to shooting a handgun is consistency

if the gun is moving around during recoil, you won't be consistent

making the handgun grippy with checkering or skateboard grip-tape can help a lot

I've heard gunshow commandos make the comment that my checkering will tear up hands if you shoot a lot
LOLOLOL

I shoot A LOT

I've been to classes were we shoot 1000 rounds in two days

my paws have no troubles
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I have smooth CCW grips and Simonich grips for competition, and have found that with a good thumbs forward grip on a 1911 the grips could be made of deer guts, the gun still won't be moving around in your hands.

The way the gun is designed you're pushing it back and up into your hand with a good grip.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 8:58:15 PM EDT
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I have smooth CCW grips and Simonich grips for competition, and have found that with a good thumbs forward grip on a 1911 the grips could be made of deer guts, the gun still won't be moving around in your hands.

The way the gun is designed you're pushing it back and up into your hand with a good grip.
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They would make an awesome IPSC or IDPA stage
UPON START SIGNAL, PICK UP THE 1911 COVERED IN DEER GUTS AND ENGAGE TARGETS T1-T3
PREFORM A MANDATORY RELOAD AND ENGAGE TARGETS T4-T6
VIRGINIA COUNT BLA BLA BLA



. . . . make mine checkered

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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:13:26 PM EDT
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I've heard gunshow commandos make the comment that my checkering will tear up hands if you shoot a lot
LOLOLOL

I shoot A LOT

I've been to classes were we shoot 1000 rounds in two days

my paws have no troubles
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What kind of checkering do you have? The checkering on my TRP will most certainly take skin off. There is a pretty big spread of checkering ranging from cheese grater to comfortable grip aid.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:33:34 PM EDT
I have both, with & without..........I can shoot Iike shit with either one.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:40:27 PM EDT
I have the serrations on a CZ Rami and they do help a little. Also have the horizontal serrations on a P226 and I think they work better that the vertical ones.



I just put the VZ pre cut grip tape on the front strap of my RO and it works better than the serrations IMHO. If grip tape is out of the question than Pachmyr wrap arounds would be my next choice.




Just a little note - the VZ grip tape comes in packs of 3. Make sure you don't lose the pack, because they do wear out. I have been hunting for mine for 2 days.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:57:12 PM EDT
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I posted a bunch of pics on page one.

I like to hand checker 1911's, and prefer 20lpi

brownells sells chackering files, and I homebrewed a jig to setup the vertical and horizontal lines.

here's a few more....





Here's my mid-1990's IPSC blaster, this is the second frame I checkered...



I checkered this compact 1911, 25lpi





Sorry I don't have better pics, most of these guns were later sold.

Wish I still had that old springfield armory
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 12:28:39 AM EDT
Looks like there isn't much of a point left on that checkering. It has been a while but I remember my TRP being much sharper.
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