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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:10:19 PM EDT
I have two older handguns.
The first is a Helwan 9mm. Says made in Egypt
What is this thing and what is it worth?

Second one is a Victor Bernedo 765. The only other number on it is 801.
Any info?
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:43:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 7:46:08 PM EDT by drobs]
Not sure about the Bernado but www.southernohiogun.com/new_hand.html
is selling the Helwans. I'd have to dig through some old gun mags but I remember interarms imported the Helwan 9mm pistols back in the late 80's early 90's.

I think they were standard issues for some military force (greek or egyptian) back in the 80's. I believe but could be wrong, that the design was the predesessor(sp) to the beretta.

I'd love to buy one just for the heluvit.

That Bernado if it is a double stack mag 9mm, could be a Bernadelli(sp) one of the many wonder nines imported back in the 1980's. I bumped into one at a local gunshop on consignment for $500 recently.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 7:52:00 PM EDT
The Helwan is a copy of a Berretta 951, I think.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 12:51:50 PM EDT
The Helwan is a copy of the Beretta 951, made in Egypt. We sold a few in the gun shop I worked at in the early nineties. Junk, at least the ones back then were.

Link Posted: 9/4/2004 4:16:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2004 4:18:12 AM EDT by Combat_Diver]
The Helwan is a copy of the Beretta 951 Brigidiar. Its a single action, 8 shot. Made locally in Eygpt and Iraq. Beretta then took the P38 double action with a 951 upper to come up with the 92. Guns are quite reliable but the safety location leaves alot to be desired. Work with the Eygptian SF back in 85 and they we're armed with them at the time. Seen hundards captured here in Iraq with Iraqi manufactuering marks. If I remember correctly they were mark "Tariq". Tariq was also marked on a Beretta 70 copy in .32 ACP. Middle Eastern guns are quite rough but have seen a very nice blued orginal Beretta once, very smooth action. (Iraqis also chrome and gold plate them).

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