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Posted: 2/21/2009 7:25:50 PM EDT
Any recommendations?   My friend has decided to flaunt the law and carry at school, despite the fact that it is expressly forbidden.  I won't condone it, but I told him I would get advice for him.  He normally carries a G17 but wants something that is capable of being REALLY concealed; understandable given the circumstances.  Don't say a fucking Rorbaugh cause he is poor like me.  $500 or so is his limit.

Jay
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:28:37 PM EDT
[#1]
some will say good on him....some will say he's an idiot

regardless....for deep concealment it's hard to beat a revolver since if it does print it doesn't look like a gun in a pocket.
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:28:41 PM EDT
[#2]
S&W 642
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:43:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
some will say good on him....some will say he's an idiot

regardless....for deep concealment it's hard to beat a revolver since if it does print it doesn't look like a gun in a pocket.


I don't judge, it's his decision.  He carries AWIB if that would help.

Jay
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:48:29 PM EDT
[#4]
9mm
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:54:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
9mm



Glock 26.  11 rounds without a reload and pretty damn small.  End of story.
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:57:05 PM EDT
[#6]
442 or LCP
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 7:57:21 PM EDT
[#7]
well I would agree, as long as this person likes Glocks....
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 8:12:02 PM EDT
[#8]
kel tec pf-9
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 8:32:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
some will say good on him....some will say he's an idiot

regardless....for deep concealment it's hard to beat a revolver since if it does print it doesn't look like a gun in a pocket.


I don't judge, it's his decision.  He carries AWIB if that would help.

Jay


AWIB?
Link Posted: 2/21/2009 11:21:53 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
some will say good on him....some will say he's an idiot

regardless....for deep concealment it's hard to beat a revolver since if it does print it doesn't look like a gun in a pocket.


I don't judge, it's his decision.  He carries AWIB if that would help.

Jay


AWIB?


Appendix, by his belt buckle.  I'm considering trying it out.

Jay
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 3:38:55 AM EDT
[#11]
Kahr PM9 or CW9 carry very well –– extremely flat/narrow

or an S&W scandium –– great carry as well

The no carry on college campuses laws need to get right the hell out of here. Those laws didn't stop a single one of the incidents about which we are all aware. A good CCW holder may have been the key to saving lives in those circumstances.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 5:24:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Kahr mk9
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 6:17:30 AM EDT
[#13]
Probably an airweight  revolver if it fits his hand okay. I find the Glock 26 more comfortable and will probably be purchasing one instead of a SW 442/642. The Glock 26 is too big for normal pocket carry - the airweight is slightly more advantageous here but it's still not a Keltec or LCP in size. Have him check out Smart Carry holsters - many use them for deep concealment.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 6:44:03 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Kahr mk9


Or PM9 depending on whether he wants steel or polymer.  Any of the Kel-Tecs or the Ruger LCP would also be good choices and they are about half the price of the Kahrs.  I haven't heard anything about the Walther PPS since it came out so no clue if it is good or bad or too expensive or anything like that.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 7:21:13 AM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 2:10:24 PM EDT
[#16]
I would recommend a Taurus 650, .357mag.  Solid, reliable, concealable in a pocket.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 2:14:52 PM EDT
[#17]
I think very highly of the Walther PPS. Very small, very thin. Accurate, reliable and 8+1 rds +P 9mm.

Check one out.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 2:32:49 PM EDT
[#18]
J-Frame or a G26 since he's already using a G17.

I prefer the J-frame but reloads are MUCH slower compared to a G26.


Link Posted: 2/22/2009 2:56:49 PM EDT
[#19]
I carried a S&W 342 in a renegade ankle holster for the las couple years I was at school.
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 4:48:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
kel tec pf-9


+1
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 5:10:19 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
9mm



Glock 26.  11 rounds without a reload and pretty damn small.  End of story.


This
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 5:49:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Glock 26, S&W J frame, non polymer Kahr, Bersa, PA-63, Polish P64, or any other small pistol with a reputation for build quality and reliability.  





And I say "Good for him".  Unjust laws should be ignored....carefully of course.
Just kind of curious what you mean by "I don't condone it".  Are you going to prevent him from carrying?  Or turn him in?  Or just shake your finger at him and say "Tsk, tsk, tsk"?  Cause apparently you condone it enough to help him by supplying advice.  Just sayin...


 
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 6:03:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Glock 26, S&W J frame, non polymer Kahr, Bersa, PA-63, Polish P64, or any other small pistol with a reputation for build quality and reliability.  

And I say "Good for him".  Unjust laws should be ignored....carefully of course.

Just kind of curious what you mean by "I don't condone it".  Are you going to prevent him from carrying?  Or turn him in?  Or just shake your finger at him and say "Tsk, tsk, tsk"?  Cause apparently you condone it enough to help him by supplying advice.  Just sayin...  


To me the risks outweigh the potential benefit.  I would never turn someone in for carrying in a NPE, as long as they were responsible about it.  I'm getting advice for him because he doesn't really go on forums and such.

Jay
Link Posted: 2/22/2009 6:50:58 PM EDT
[#24]
J frame, either a 642, or a 638
Link Posted: 2/23/2009 9:36:10 AM EDT
[#25]
how about a NAA black widow ?? >>>



or a kahr p380
Link Posted: 2/24/2009 7:34:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Hi,

Eventually, an experienced handgunner . . . no matter how hard we fight it . . . discovers the benefits and advantages of an Airweight (aluminum-framed) S&W J-frame snubbie for really discreet concealed carry!  I've been licensed for about 15 years now, and it took me a while to figure it out myself.

Not much "wider" than a 1911 either (pictured next to a lightweight officer's style .45 Auto––in this case a high dollar Kimber Ultra CDP I own) . . . and sooooo dependable. http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/282194/2328606IMG0124.JPG

It is the kind of gun that has some serious punch, can be VERY accurate in experienced hands, and that can even be fired from WITHIN a coat or pocket if the emergency requires it!

When I can, I'll pack the lightweight Kimber, or a full-size, high capacity or single stack 1911 (all in .45ACP) as a primary . . . but that J-frame is my ALWAYS gun.  I never feel under gunned when it is in my pocket either.  Why?

As I mentioned too, a J-frame can shoot quite well.  This target (a 1" black square) was shot standing/unsupported at ten yards) with this J-frame:

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2248828Firsttarget.jpg

Talk to a bunch of seasoned, decent shooters.  Chances are, most of 'em will recommend an Airweight for concealment.  Heck, sometimes I have an Airweight in deep concealment and a steel framed version, a Model 36 J-frame snubbie, as a primary when I'm out.  They are great, and extremely reliable guns indeed . . . and sooooo easy to conceal and access too!!!

Truly, once you have one for a while, you'll understand why!

Heck, if I were him, I'd just toss it in my front pocket in a pocket holster designed to break up the shape, such as this $14 Uncle Mike's #3 size pocket holster. With most pants, no one would ever be the wiser and the gun will be accessible easily if an emergency arose.  I carry this way ALL the time . . . but legally of course.

Hope this helps . . .  

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/282194/2328567IMG0121e.jpg
Link Posted: 2/24/2009 8:25:42 PM EDT
[#27]
I'd vote Ruger LCP.. Small accurate and fairly inexpensive.
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