There was some discussion in the GD about carrying a P238, or any 1911 type pistol for that matter, in the cocked and locked condition.  Most were saying that this was the only safe way to carry one.  Being new to 1911 style pistols, this was news to me.  I'm a Glock guy from birth............safety.........hammer?  What the hell are those things??????

Anyway, to the question:

Is there any concern for hammer spring fatigue if I leave the pistol in this condition?  

It goes from the safe, in a holster, to my hip, back to the safe in the holster almost daily.  The only time the hammer will drop from here on out is if I shoot it, I guess.

Thanks.

Cocked and Locked is how I carry mine. I carried Mine around the house for a few weeks without one in the pipe just to make sure the safety stayed where it's supposed to. Safety stayed on the whole time and the hammer never dropped, so Good to Go.  I carry it IWB so you may want to evaluate your own method of carry

I had the same concern when I bought my CZ 85.
Although it is not my dail carry, for that I carry a Kahr P9,
I leave it in my gun safe cocked and locked in the holster.

If I needed it in a hurry, I want it ready to roll

There's only two safe ways to carry a single action pistol:

1.  Condition 1 (cocked & locked)

2.  Condition 3.  Empty chamber, hammer down, mag in gun.

There's only one smart way to carry a single action pistol:

Condition 1.  C3 will get you killed trying to chamber that weapon when the goblins attack.

This is the correct answer.



 

I agree.  Condition 1 is the only way to go.  A 1911 in Condition 1 is better than a Glock any day.

I have a friend that carries with one in the tube and hammer down.

Any way that it could go off?  I dont know?  With the new internal safety features.

His claim is to cock on the draw from the pocket and no safety to fumble with.

Having "fumble with" the hammer seems far riskier and more difficult to master than simply flipping the safety down.

I just picked up my P238.

The trigger pull is a little on the heavier side (7-9lbs estimated).

Why not carry it cocked and no lock. Like a dao piece?

Specially when it has a heavier trigger than some double actions.

What's says the hive??

No.



 

To reiterate HELL NO Even though it may be a little bit heavier trigger you do not have the travel that a dao trigger does.

Are you kidding me? You are wondering about carrying a loaded single action gun with no safety? Do that and its a guarantee you will shoot yourself or someone via a "negligent discharge". Get the "Glock thought" out of your head. Its dangerous. Even with the "safe trigger" of a Glock you read about negligent discharges all the time with them. All it takes is a squeeze of the trigger and you don't always need your finger to do that, anything that gets hooked in there will fire it. I know a guy personally that almost lost his leg from a Glock discharge. The fool was climbing down from his treestand with a loaded mod 20 when  small branch entered the trigger guard and BANG, one 180gr 10mm zipped down through his leg. After a year of rehab he can walk again but not even close to being normal and never will be, all because he chose to carry a gun with a loaded chamber and no safety. Its not the same as a revolver or a D/A auto. Most of those take a long hard pull to fire, not so with a SA or quite often a Glock.

So rather than use the safety, he chooses to actuate a small hammer, which isn't designed for thumb-cocking? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me; I don't see how that would be faster or safer than just thumbing off the manual safety during the draw. Besides - to get the hammer down on a loaded chamber, your friend has to pull the trigger on a live round and catch the hammer before it strikes the firing pin. Bad idea.