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Posted: 8/22/2023 3:03:01 PM EST
I am under the belief that I can shoot .500" lead ball through my S&W 500 revolver.My main concern is if I can use hard cast round ball.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 3:22:03 PM EST
[#1]
Maybe if you use a powder coating on the ball projectile. With the very high pressures in the 500 Magnum leading is going to be a big concern with any cast lead bullet.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 3:31:05 PM EST
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Maybe if you use a powder coating on the ball projectile. With the very high pressures in the 500 Magnum leading is going to be a big concern with any cast lead bullet.
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Thank you for looking out. I do plan on lubing the balls in Lee Alox.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 4:19:44 PM EST
[#3]
You should be able to put a couple in there.

I remember Remington used to sell a .357 loaded with 2 000 buck.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 4:42:17 PM EST
[#4]
Just keep the velocities reasonable and you should be fine
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 4:45:53 PM EST
[#5]
Assuming you are talking about reloading, keep the velocity below 1200 fps. The ball will have minimal contact with the rifling, so friction leading wont be a concern.

Better cross-section of expert advice if asked under the Armory-Reloading forum.

And yes, Remington produced a .357 and a .38 spl double buckshot load 30 years ago. Would print a 2” pattern at about 30 feet. Was packaged as LE Only in 20 round long boxes.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:30:29 PM EST
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Assuming you are talking about reloading, keep the velocity below 1200 fps. The ball will have minimal contact with the rifling, so friction leading wont be a concern.

Better cross-section of expert advice if asked under the Armory-Reloading forum.

And yes, Remington produced a .357 and a .38 spl double buckshot load 30 years ago. Would print a 2” pattern at about 30 feet. Was packaged as LE Only in 20 round long boxes.
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I had a Taurus model 85ch back in the day and I bought a bunch of this for it. Good times!

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:52:08 PM EST
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You should be able to put a couple in there.

I remember Remington used to sell a .357 loaded with 2 000 buck.
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Yep, hoping to get three balls in one case.

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:54:36 PM EST
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Assuming you are talking about reloading, keep the velocity below 1200 fps. The ball will have minimal contact with the rifling, so friction leading wont be a concern.

Better cross-section of expert advice if asked under the Armory-Reloading forum.

And yes, Remington produced a .357 and a .38 spl double buckshot load 30 years ago. Would print a 2” pattern at about 30 feet. Was packaged as LE Only in 20 round long boxes.
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Thanks. My main concern is the forcing cone. Don’t know if pure lead is needed for this application and if hard cast lead would cause pressure spikes when passing through the cone.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:45:04 PM EST
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I have shot the Lee REAL bullets through my 500 (wheelweight lead) and both the thompson maxi ball and the Lee mini ball moulds. As long as the loads are reasonable I haven't had any real problems and accuracy is okay.  I did try the 50 cal round ball  but accuracy was nonexistant.  I also used cork and cardboard wads and created a 500 smith and wesson shotgun round.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:34:08 PM EST
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Yep, hoping to get three balls in one case.

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So 15 50cal lead balls on tap? That sounds awesome, even you just blast shit at the range with it.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:34:15 PM EST
[#11]
You should be fine.

My standard.357 mag loads have a 15 BHN at 1250fps
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 6:17:01 AM EST
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I tried some Hornady round lead balls in my Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 magnum back in the early 80's.  Some light load (probably) with Unique.  They went bang and put holes in the paper but there was no accuracy to speak of and I didn't pursue it.  I only put one ball in each piece of brass.

Zero issues with leading.  Those were probably pretty soft lead.
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 6:32:26 AM EST
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The question isn't if you can make a round ball load work but what the purpose or goal is?

Ball loads pretty much fell out of favor as soon as normal bullets became available.

Please update with your results.

I am thinking the only loads that will work at all will be fairly light .

Results are going to depend quite a bit depending on how the balls you have fit the bore.

Really the only good reason to spend time on this is if you have a big old pile of balls sitting around and you want to use them up.

Watch out for lead buildup in the bore . Shooting a factory type 500 S&W thru heavy lead buildup could cause scary pressure.

If all you desire is a light target or plinking load there has got to be lots of published data out there.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 1:13:53 PM EST
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Your round balls will work just fine but don't expect optimal accuracy and you are going completely off the reservation so all bets are off.

At roughly 200gr each, I doubt you'll be able to get more than 2 in there.  You'll be looking at an overly long for bore 400gr projectile.

Powder wise, I'm thinking very bottom of the chart for 500gr bullets, with the fastest burning powder on the chart.  No matter how hard you get it, your lead balls are going to be softer than a jacketed bullet and have less bearing surface so pressures should drop and velocities will jump enough that it may surprise you.  You're going to be in the realm of 45-70 Trapdoor power levels, so this is still not a kiddy/plinking load.

Just my 2 cents,
MLG
Link Posted: 9/3/2023 7:07:22 PM EST
[#15]
I've read that you want the largest ball that will seat snugly in an unsized case, that was fired in your gun. Any smaller and accuracy will be terrible.
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