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Link Posted: 5/16/2023 9:26:43 AM EST
[#1]
Got it. Thanks
PWS
Link Posted: 5/16/2023 6:02:25 PM EST
[#2]
Sent away for the Navy FOIA. I’ll post the results when I get them. Thanks all.
Link Posted: 5/16/2023 6:04:10 PM EST
[#3]
Anyone know what rgn # their on?
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 7:56:53 AM EST
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Anyone know what rgn # their on?
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From the CMP forums. #38000 was contacted 5/16
Link Posted: 5/19/2023 2:38:26 PM EST
[#5]
Number came up today. Rack or Field for choices. I just paid the premium. If nothing else figured the designation would make it easier to sell if I'm not enamored with it. We shall see.
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 7:26:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
Number came up today. Rack or Field for choices. I just paid the premium. If nothing else figured the designation would make it easier to sell if I'm not enamored with it. We shall see.
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Congrats on the call. Hoping you get what you want. Still roughly another 4 weeks for me I’m thinking.
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 10:05:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
Number came up today. Rack or Field for choices. I just paid the premium. If nothing else figured the designation would make it easier to sell if I'm not enamored with it. We shall see.
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Back in round one, when I got the call, the choices were service or field. I chose field, and am not disappointed. My pistol ended up being a Remington Rand frame, with a post WWII colt barrel and slide rebuild marks indicating rebuild at USMC depot Albany GA in 1977.
It shoots to point of aim at 50 feet, throws about a baseball size group at that distance. Much to my surprise it has fed and functioned everything I have thrown at it, from standard ball ( expected), federal hi shock hollow points, lead round nose and lead semi wadcutters both 160 and 200 grain. I especially was pleasantly surprised by the feeding of the SWC’s the 160’s in particular. And I loaded them Pretty light, at around 800 FPS

From what I have seen of the current round, if I was called I would probably roll the dice on rack, as I have seen quite a few rack grades that look like they may be original finish or mostly original parts with a pretty good percentage of guns with slides and frames from the same manufacturer.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 3:23:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jagrmaister] [#8]
Remington Rand Slide. Colt frame. Field grade mixmaster. Paperwork went in about a week before Thanksgiving and delivery was today. My paperwork was delayed as usual so couldn't take it with me but snapped a pic. Somebody wanted to make a two tone gun.

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Link Posted: 5/24/2023 7:51:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
Remington Rand Slide. Colt frame. Field grade mixmaster. Paperwork went in about a week before Thanksgiving and delivery was today. My paperwork was delayed as usual so couldn't take it with me but snapped a pic. Somebody wanted to make a two tone gun.

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I’d certainly be happy with that!
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 7:57:36 AM EST
[#10]
After seeing a ton of Remington Slide and Colt Frames like my 1940 Colt, I'm gonna stop looking for a proper Colt slide and will keep it as it is.

It is rare and it is military so ...whatever.


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Link Posted: 5/24/2023 1:15:10 PM EST
[#11]
Got the call today.  Service and Rack available.
I chose Rack.

RNG 3809_

Will see how it goes...
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 4:07:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jagrmaister] [#12]
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
After seeing a ton of Remington Slide and Colt Frames like my 1940 Colt, I'm gonna stop looking for a proper Colt slide and will keep it as it is.

It is rare and it is military so ...whatever.


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These all got stripped down and thrown in a bucket of like parts. Then rebuilt to function. One could argue it's more correct as an example of a USGI 1911 pistol then the one you planned to put together with all manufacturer matching parts.  I am eager to get mine home and check it out a little more. I keep looking at my pic and the pistol is certainly growing on me. Hope they end up opening orders to previous purchasers for a second.  

Kind of thinking I should have my 68-year old mother fill out the paperwork and order one...She loves .45ACP.  
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 9:36:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rope-A-Dope:
Got the call today.  Service and Rack available.
I chose Rack.

RNG 3809_

Will see how it goes...
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My wife and I are 388xx, about 50 #'s apart.  After seeing everything here and given that I want historical pieces more than shooters, I think I'm going with rack grade on both of them.  I have new guns for shooters.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 10:34:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: Jagrmaister] [#14]
With it home, I'm pretty stoked about this pistol. Initially when opening the cmp box at my FFL I was not completely enamored by the difference in slide/frame finishes, but the past couple days I've stared at the pic and grew to like it more and more. Took possession today and I'm actually pretty thrilled to have it. 1944 Colt frame and a Type 3 RR slide.

I don't know enough about barrels, but maybe someone can chime in. No other proofs other than the numbers.

I'd definitely be there on a secondary order if CMP permitted. Wish I'd captured one before the prices moved upwards by $200, but I still think my example is a fair valuation. Pretty cool piece of history and dare I say art? Old milsurps are the best since they have so many stories to tell and you can just imagine where they've served. If only we could hear them!

Going to have to find a way to get another for my second born now...

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EDIT: Internet is your friend.  Quick few mins of searching and m1911.org had what I was looking for in a thread.  Cage number gave its secrets...

Per Exitwounds, an Old Timer: The barrel is a post 1968 standard USGI replacement barrel. It most likely is chrome lined. The M indicates the barrel was magnafluxed (magnetic tested), and the P is the normal Proof Mark found on USGI barrels. The 7791193 is the Ord. Dept. Part #. If it were an NM barrel it would be marked on the chamber hood .45 AUTO (over) NM 7991414 by mfr. 73677. The 73677 is a CAGE # for the manufacturer. The manufacture is Duroyd Mfg. Co. Inc. of NY. I have a few of those barrels still in the wrapper, they are 1979 -80 mfg. and there was about 55,000 or so made for the DOD under contract, and the ones I have are chrome lined.
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Link Posted: 5/26/2023 10:50:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
With it home, I'm pretty stoked about this pistol. Initially when opening the cmp box at my FFL I was not completely enamored by the difference in slide/frame finishes, but the past couple days I've stared at the pic and grew to like it more and more. Took possession today and I'm actually pretty thrilled to have it. 1944 Colt frame and a Type 3 RR slide.

I don't know enough about barrels, but maybe someone can chime in. No other proofs other than the numbers.

I'd definitely be there on a secondary order if CMP permitted. Wish I'd captured one before the prices moved upwards by $200, but I still think my example is a fair valuation. Pretty cool piece of history and dare I say art? Old milsurps are the best since they have so many stories to tell and you can just imagine where they've served. If only we could hear them!

Going to have to find a way to get another for my second born now...

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That's a great piece. I love the classic surplus firearms from CMP, and I also love the Christmas feeling when you open the box and discover what fate has awarded you.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 2:15:49 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/27/2023 11:36:30 AM EST
[#17]
I’m 38831. Was set on service grade when I initially put in but honestly I might be more inclined towards a field or rack. Lots of nice looks racks coming through and I don’t mind a little character. From what I’ve seen there’s better chances for matching frame/slides and non-replacement slides in the rack and field grades vs service. We shall see what they offer when I get the call. Gonna be somewhat of an impulse decision.
Link Posted: 6/6/2023 8:38:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: bluesx] [#18]
Ended up with my friends Rack Grade. I picked it up at a very modest amount over the 1050.00 original cost. This works out well for me as I have a son and 2 grandsons.
  With the combination of parts I could have 2 fairly well matched pistols, but I am leaving them in as received state.
Bottom is round 1 Service grade, Colt/ Ithaca, middle is round 2 Rack RR/Colt and top is round 3 Rack  Colt /RR. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 6/7/2023 7:10:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bluesx:
Ended up with my friends Rack Grade. I picked it up at a very modest amount over the 1050.00 original cost. This works out well for me as I have a son and 2 grandsons.
  With the combination of parts I could have 2 fairly well matched pistols, but I am leaving them in as received state.
Bottom is round 1 Service grade, Colt/ Ithaca, middle is round 2 Rack RR/Colt and top is round 3 Rack  Colt /RR. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274423/20230318_215717_jpg-2842680.JPG
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All 3 are nice, but I prefer the 2 rack's. Something about that gray park refinish that a lot of the services seem to have, I just don't like it.
Link Posted: 6/7/2023 8:40:52 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/7/2023 4:15:11 PM EST
[#21]
I received a Remington Rand lower, and a Colt slide on a field grade. Should we try and trade parts to make a 1911 match, or be happy with what we won from CMP?  I’m old enough that a mixmaster was issued to us, at least in the Corps.

Link Posted: 6/7/2023 5:22:06 PM EST
[#22]
Based on what I'm seeing, I want a Rack or a Field grade.  Looking for a collector, not a shooter.  Seems Rack / Field have the "survivor" look to them, and the most character.  Anxiously waiting for mine (and my wife's) numbers to be called.
Link Posted: 6/7/2023 11:28:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Saablook:
I received a Remington Rand lower, and a Colt slide on a field grade. Should we try and trade parts to make a 1911 match, or be happy with what we won from CMP?  I’m old enough that a mixmaster was issued to us, at least in the Corps.

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Thought about shopping a Colt slide. Have a RR slide/ Colt frame. But kinda like it how it is. Certainly how they did it when it was US Property...

Plus, my frame and slide fit are actually really solid.
Link Posted: 6/10/2023 7:55:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater] [#24]
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Originally Posted By Saablook:
I received a Remington Rand lower, and a Colt slide on a field grade. Should we try and trade parts to make a 1911 match, or be happy with what we won from CMP?  I'm old enough that a mixmaster was issued to us, at least in the Corps.

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Be happy. The only time these guns were "correct" was when they left the factory. They turned into Mixmasters pretty quick. If you want to "chase the correct gun" go for it - but it's gonna be a pretty rough go of it. Way harder than a Garand, carbine, or any other rifle.
Link Posted: 6/10/2023 11:15:15 AM EST
[#25]
Patiently waiting for my call
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 8:28:55 AM EST
[#26]
Curious, how does the phone call go when they call you?  I assume they advise of the grades available and ask what you want and confirm receiving FFL info?  Do they take a card number right then?  Can you call back to tell them what grade you want?  Do I need to have my receiving FFL info on hand when they call?
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 10:19:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By motoguy:
Curious, how does the phone call go when they call you?  I assume they advise of the grades available and ask what you want and confirm receiving FFL info?  Do they take a card number right then?  Can you call back to tell them what grade you want?  Do I need to have my receiving FFL info on hand when they call?
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They tell you the grades and say make your decision now. You can pay then. I had a screaming kid so selected my grade and asked to please call back. They'll then send you a confirmation email for your FFL to reply and submit license. You have to choose grade option on the call, though.
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 10:36:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:


They tell you the grades and say make your decision now. You can pay then. I had a screaming kid so selected my grade and asked to please call back. They'll then send you a confirmation email for your FFL to reply and submit license. You have to choose grade option on the call, though.
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Thanks.  If you miss the call will they leave a voice mail, or are you just hosed?
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 10:38:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:


They tell you the grades and say make your decision now. You can pay then. I had a screaming kid so selected my grade and asked to please call back. They'll then send you a confirmation email for your FFL to reply and submit license. You have to choose grade option on the call, though.
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Hopefully my calls coming up soon. Good info.
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 12:29:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By motoguy:
Thanks.  If you miss the call will they leave a voice mail, or are you just hosed?
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:


They tell you the grades and say make your decision now. You can pay then. I had a screaming kid so selected my grade and asked to please call back. They'll then send you a confirmation email for your FFL to reply and submit license. You have to choose grade option on the call, though.
Thanks.  If you miss the call will they leave a voice mail, or are you just hosed?


They will leave you a voicemail and give you a couple of days to respond.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 2:33:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Be happy. The only time these guns were "correct" was when they left the factory. They turned into Mixmasters pretty quick. If you want to "chase the correct gun" go for it - but it's gonna be a pretty rough go of it. Way harder than a Garand, carbine, or any other rifle.
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Originally Posted By Saablook:
I received a Remington Rand lower, and a Colt slide on a field grade. Should we try and trade parts to make a 1911 match, or be happy with what we won from CMP?  I'm old enough that a mixmaster was issued to us, at least in the Corps.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119894/F5B3C832-09EA-45A4-BDDF-010B12019B53-2600064.jpg
Be happy. The only time these guns were "correct" was when they left the factory. They turned into Mixmasters pretty quick. If you want to "chase the correct gun" go for it - but it's gonna be a pretty rough go of it. Way harder than a Garand, carbine, or any other rifle.

My field grade Remington Rand came with 1980s Israeli replacement slide and barrel. Rattled like a cement truck full of gravel, and accuracy was nothing to write home about. I sourced a RR slide and High Standard barrel on EBay. They were actually pretty easy to find. Now it has just a slight rattle, and accuracy improved dramatically. Plus, it looks better now!
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Link Posted: 6/22/2023 6:47:00 PM EST
[#32]
38831, got the call today. Service and Field were available, I chose service.
Link Posted: 6/23/2023 8:34:50 AM EST
[#33]
I broke 100… 38927. Hoping they get some rack grades back in the offering. Not sure which way I’d swing on service vs field
Link Posted: 6/23/2023 11:07:45 AM EST
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38831, got the call today. Service and Field were available, I chose service.
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Dang.  My wife got the call on Wednesday.  Tried to call CMP back yesterday.  Hopefully something happens today.  My number was about 60 after hers, so hopefully my call is coming as well.

I was hoping for a rack grade based on photos posted.  Looks like the difference between field and service is "minor rust" on the field.  If that's the case I guess I'll goo with field in the hopes it hasn't been repark'd recently.  
Link Posted: 6/23/2023 4:13:25 PM EST
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Above is my Service Grade that arrived today at my FFL.  Colt/Colt ANAD rebuild. Serial puts it at 1942. Can’t wait to get my hands on her. I feel like I won my gamble and have no buyers remorse spending the higher cost. Although I wouldn’t have minded a little wear and character, this went above and beyond my expectations!

Below was a rack grade that came in as well, I don’t know the owner and won’t show the serial but if I will take this photo down if they would like. Just figured it would be a good comparison.


Link Posted: 6/23/2023 6:27:34 PM EST
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Wife paid for the field grade today.   Gotta decide if mine will service or field grade.  Above photos look good.
Link Posted: 6/26/2023 11:38:17 AM EST
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Just got the call. 38927. Field & Rack available. Chose rack.
Link Posted: 6/27/2023 8:49:50 PM EST
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Just got the call. 38927. Field & Rack available. Chose rack.
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My number is 38892.  Does this mean I'm out of luck?  I don't have any missed calls that I'm aware of.  My wife's was 38858 and she was contacted last week.
Link Posted: 6/27/2023 10:29:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/28/2023 12:04:11 AM EST
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They don't go in order all the time. Just be patient.
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Originally Posted By motoguy:My number is 38892.  Does this mean I'm out of luck?  I don't have any missed calls that I'm aware of.  My wife's was 38858 and she was contacted last week.


They don't go in order all the time. Just be patient.

Yep, basically they issue a basket of packets to each CS person and yours just ended up in a different basket than the others.   We’ve seen this countless times.
Link Posted: 6/28/2023 8:48:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: dmable44] [#41]
I discovered something that I thought was a pipe dream but I guess there’s always that chance. My Colt frame and slide are matching!

Link Posted: 6/28/2023 9:16:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dmable44:
I discovered something that I thought was a pipe dream but I guess there’s always that chance. My Colt frame and slide are matching!
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That is…………..AWESOME!!!! Congrats! Now go buy a lottery ticket while you lucky streak is smokin’ HOT!
Link Posted: 6/29/2023 9:41:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dmable44:
I discovered something that I thought was a pipe dream but I guess there’s always that chance. My Colt frame and slide are matching!
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Good for you man!
Link Posted: 6/29/2023 9:48:58 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2023 6:19:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dmable44:
I discovered something that I thought was a pipe dream but I guess there’s always that chance. My Colt frame and slide are matching!
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I won some back when I was purchasing Garands... but Jesus. How far is the horseshoe stuck up your ass?

Great score!
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 8:40:05 AM EST
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Rack grade: colt frame Ithaca slide.

No complaints from this guy. Definitely what I was going for.

Serial 1127441 colt serial number look up puts it at 1943.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 4:07:26 PM EST
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My wife's field grade came in today. Crappy pics taken on my kitchen table, but I'm pretty excited. It seems to be exactly what I wanted.


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Link Posted: 7/1/2023 4:08:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/2/2023 11:48:03 PM EST
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Serial # 1378087 seems to make it a 1943 Remington Rand frame and an Ithaca slide.  Still has the checkered small parts of the RR though.  Has a post WWII replacement barrel.  A bit of a mixmaster, but I'm still very pleased with it.
Link Posted: 7/3/2023 7:55:59 AM EST
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