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Posted: 10/25/2015 5:30:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2015 2:59:51 PM EDT by Colt-45]
Which is easier to conceal inside waist band and sit with? the full size 1911 or the Glock 19/23?

Not worried about the caliber, wondering more about how the shape of each gun attributes to the ease of concealment compared to one another.

I know there are versions of these guns such as the G26, G43, Commander, Officers and CCO models that are much easier to carry but I want to focus on the full size 1911 and the Glock 19/23.

Wondering if I could get some input from those of you who have had the opportunity to carry both. Not looking for  "none carry X gun instead" advice.

Thanks
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 6:13:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2015 6:15:19 AM EDT by bpd207]
I have both. I carry both. For me, the full size 1911 just conceals better. I wear it OWB, sometimes with an x300 and sometimes without  just depending on what I'm doing. A t-shirt covers it just fine for me. The only downside is I usually carry 2 extra Wilson Elites in my left pocket, which can get annoying.

The G19 carries nicely too, it's just a fatty and prints a little more. I have the Vickers G19 with RTF2 grip and it is annoying against bare skin. I've been meaning to take a little sandpaper to it.

FYI, my 1911 also wears a S&A magwell and still doesn't print.  I have an aluminum frame and it makes a nice, lightweight package.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 6:46:28 AM EDT
I have been carrying both for over 25 years.
The Glock 19 demension wise is just about perfect for everything.
With that said my state a few years ago passed a 10 round magazine ban.
So having grown up with the 1911 platform , I decided to go that route again.
First the full size 5" 1911 is a big gun. In weight and size.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Then I looked t the CCO size ( Commander slide with officers frame) . Not bad size wise. With alumnium frame very easy to carry, But hard to shoot. slow recovery time between shots.
Finally I went with the Commander size. The gun is about the size of a Glock 19. Even with a steel frame, weight isn't bad with a good holster, belt and a mag pouch on the opposite size to balance the rig.
The Commander, is perfect for me. Your mileage may vary.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 7:05:49 AM EDT
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I prefer the 1911, its slimmer, the extra barrel length isnt really much of an issue. I went with an officers model myself, but have EDCed a full size 1911 and a commander before and it wasn't much harder.

My glock 23 just feels much thicker in a IWB holster.

The biggest issue i had was finding a safety that wasn't huge for EDC, the "gas pedal" type safety digs in and finding a smaller type isn't easy. I guess i should of just ground or filed mine down and cold blued it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 7:22:09 AM EDT
Both are good guns. Glock is lighter on your belt, but a bit bulkier. The heavier 1911 is thin and more rounded, not like a brick like the Glock, so it does tend to conceal easier. I would choose the gun based on whichever one you shoot better and feel more confident with however. I can conceal just about anything with the right holster and clothes. I personally prefer 1911's more over Glock's, but that's just me. I like the trigger better and manual safety and overall quality is better. Of course 1911's cost a lot more than a Glock. I always tell new shooters to go with the Glock, it's cheap and easy to use and very reliable even if you never clean it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 8:38:32 AM EDT
I carry both, the full sized 1911 is slimmer but heavier, the G19 is lighter with a higher capacity, but bulkier. As with everything else, it's a trade off.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 12:39:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bpd207:
I have both. I carry both. For me, the full size 1911 just conceals better. I wear it OWB, sometimes with an x300 and sometimes without  just depending on what I'm doing. A t-shirt covers it just fine for me. The only downside is I usually carry 2 extra Wilson Elites in my left pocket, which can get annoying.

The G19 carries nicely too, it's just a fatty and prints a little more. I have the Vickers G19 with RTF2 grip and it is annoying against bare skin. I've been meaning to take a little sandpaper to it.

FYI, my 1911 also wears a S&A magwell and still doesn't print.  I have an aluminum frame and it makes a nice, lightweight package.
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My experience is the same.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 1:40:36 PM EDT
1911 in a Galco Royal Guard at 3:30.  Because of the cant, it conceals well even with just a t-shirt.  Although it is heavy throughout the course of the day.  I prefer to carry appendix, but the length of the 1911, height and odd angles at the rear of the gun (hammer, beaver tail, etc.) make it very uncomfortable with the holster options I have tried.  A straight cant OWB at 3:00 is a favorite when in the woods.

Glock 19, Incog or Klipt at 12:30 is my usual carry.

Picking between the two, Glock 19.  Smaller, lighter, higher capacity.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 1:42:13 PM EDT
I don't have a lot of experience carrying IWB, but OWB I have better luck concealing the 1911.  It's thin enough that it's barely noticeable.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 2:17:10 PM EDT
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I've never owned a G19 but have carried a G20SF and G29SF in the past, both openly and concealed.  I carry a 1911, both full sized and commander sized.  

I carry a S&W 1076 from time to time in a Don Hume pancake holster- and although heavy the holster makes it feel very light.  The flatness of the gun, similar to the 1911s, does a lot to help that.

Assuming good holsters and belt, the 1911 will conceal better and feel better.  Glocks are thick and are harder to conceal well.

But it's the holster that will make the BIG difference, not the gun so much.

EDIT to add: I am speaking only about OWB, I seldom carry IWB as I see little advantage for the extra discomfort.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 3:15:43 PM EDT
I have both.
No contest.
G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.

Link Posted: 10/25/2015 3:24:27 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By airsix:


I have both.

No contest.

G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.



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Same here, extra width doesn't bother me at all
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 3:47:34 PM EDT
I prefer my 1911.  I'm not a big (5'9" 170lbs) and it just conceals a lot better.  I have a size 33 waist, and any pants over a 34/36 (depending on brand) just look way too big on me, as though I am trying to hide something.  With the slimmer 1911, its not an issue.
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 6:55:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dbd870:
Same here, extra width doesn't bother me at all
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Originally Posted By airsix:
I have both.
No contest.
G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.

Same here, extra width doesn't bother me at all

Link Posted: 10/25/2015 8:22:53 PM EDT
G19!
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 8:27:45 PM EDT
1911, Milt sparks nexus and a wilderness belt. I cant tell its there.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 9:28:42 AM EDT
G19 is much lighter and more comfortable for me.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 10:02:17 AM EDT
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G19 is much lighter and more comfortable for me.
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14 oz is a huge difference. i cant find a link but doesnt a Glock and 2 mags weight the same as a 1911 and 2 mags. yes i know more rounds etc, but the overall is the same. the loaded G20/21 is only 4 oz less than a 1911.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 11:57:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By williewvr:

14 oz is a huge difference. i cant find a link but doesnt a Glock and 2 mags weight the same as a 1911 and 2 mags. yes i know more rounds etc, but the overall is the same. the loaded G20/21 is only 4 oz less than a 1911.
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Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES:
G19 is much lighter and more comfortable for me.

14 oz is a huge difference. i cant find a link but doesnt a Glock and 2 mags weight the same as a 1911 and 2 mags. yes i know more rounds etc, but the overall is the same. the loaded G20/21 is only 4 oz less than a 1911.


It might not be as bad if I spent more money on 1911 holsters but I have invested more money in Glock holsters.  Holster has a lot to do with comfort and how something carries and until I really get a desire to carry a 1911 more seriously I doubt this will change.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 12:10:00 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By dbd870:


Originally Posted By airsix:

I have both.

No contest.

G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.



Same here, extra width doesn't bother me at all


I've had both, still have the 23, and now a 19.  I don't own a 1911 anymore.



 
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 12:28:24 PM EDT
April 8, 2008, 12:34 PM
I actually had a Glock 19, Kimber Custom II and a scale right beside me when I read this, so here you go. :)

Glock 19 (stock) w/16 rounds of 124gn - 30.8 oz.
Kimber Custom II w/8 rounds of 230gn - 44.7 oz.

And for comparison,
Glock 21 (stock) w/14 rounds of 230gn - 40.1 oz.

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Quoted from an old highroad thread
That's almost a pound difference.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 11:32:56 PM EDT
19 lighter therefore easier, 1911 need one reload to equal the 19 and prints less if that matters in your state.
Link Posted: 10/27/2015 5:11:57 AM EDT
I carry both at home but prefer the 1911 for IWB and G19 for OWB as the added thickness on the Glock is uncomfortable to me.  Might change as I just got a new IWB holster for the Glock.  Last year in Astan get issued the G19 first and ditched it as soon as a M1911A1 came available.

work guns


A very good compromise would be a Lightweight Commander.


CD
Link Posted: 10/28/2015 7:47:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By airsix:
I have both.
No contest.
G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.

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Same.  Carried a 1911 for a long time before I started carrying a Glock 19.  I honestly don't remember the last time I've carried a 1911 since.
Link Posted: 10/28/2015 3:42:34 PM EDT

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19 lighter therefore easier, 1911 need one reload to equal the 19 and prints less if that matters in your state.
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Don't discount the fact that you can reload a 19 with 22 mag, or even a 18 mag. (30 rounder)   Moar ammoz.











 
Link Posted: 10/28/2015 3:45:01 PM EDT

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I carry both at home but prefer the 1911 for IWB and G19 for OWB as the added thickness on the Glock is uncomfortable to me.  Might change as I just got a new IWB holster for the Glock.  Last year in Astan get issued the G19 first and ditched it as soon as a M1911A1 came available.



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http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/1911_G19_c.jpg



A very good compromise would be a Lightweight Commander.





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Based on my experience with both guns, there's no way in heck fire I'd go to war with a issue 1911 over a Glock 19.


But my war days are over (I hope so anyway) so its a moot point I guess.  To each their own.



 

Link Posted: 10/28/2015 8:38:58 PM EDT
I carry both, and the G23 is WAY EASIER to carry than the 1911. The 1911 is slimmer, yes, BUT the weight of the 1911 is what made me change to the G23. I love the 1911 but 11 shots vs 8 shots, the weight loss, most NEED TO BE WORKED ON to run properly, plus not having to remember to operate the controls sold me. I prefer to trust my life on a firearm that runs PERFECTLY, EVERYTIME, ALL THE TIME than one that won`t cycle reliably, stove pipes, and might be out of the fight when I need it most.
Link Posted: 10/29/2015 10:04:48 AM EDT
I have carried both.  Used to carry a Glock 19, and in a good holster it concealed well.  Switched to a 1911, and in a good holster, I felt that it concealed better for me, based on how I dressed at the time. Now the 1911 is pulling safe duty, and I am back to carrying a Glock 19 and CZ P-07 which is roughly the same size as the Glock.



So much depends on how you carry.  



I can't carry a full sized 1911 appendix, but I can carry a Glock 19 that way.  




The biggest ding against the 1911 is the grip extends so far.  Get a good holster, with the proper angle and that's not as much of an issue.  

Biggest ding against the Glock is the width.  Get a good holster that is thin enough, and it's a non issue.




I always carried my 1911 in a Comp-Tac Mtac, and I felt it was ideal.  Right now, I carry my Glock in the same exact holster, just swapped the kydex front out.




I think the 1911 has a very slight edge when carried @ 3:30-4:30, the Glock has a major edge when carried appendix.  



Link Posted: 10/29/2015 10:35:34 AM EDT
Both are easy to carry and no concealment issues with either. I'm an AIWB guy regardless of which pistol I am carrying and I find them pretty equal in that application. The 1911 is a touch uncomfortable if I sit down the wrong way and dig the muzzle into my leg. I carry a 1911 a couple days a week if the weather is cooler and a Glock 23 at all other times. Either gun is an a JMCK AIWB holster.
Link Posted: 10/29/2015 10:18:12 PM EDT
own both but carry the 1911 daily in a IWB. just like most on here it will boil down to which feels right for you. the g19 is always in an OWB when i do carry it but thats not often
Link Posted: 11/8/2015 12:28:55 AM EDT
1911
Link Posted: 11/8/2015 5:25:14 PM EDT
I have and carry both.

In AIWB, the Glock is more comfortable as it doesn't have the hammer and beavertail that the 1911 does, and it is about an inch shorter in length so there is less to dig into your leg or stomach if you bend or sit funny. They both conceal about the same.

IWB is hard for me to say. I default to carrying the Glock AIWB because I know it works and I can get to it. The 1911 goes at my 3:30-4:00 when I carry it. The extra weight is hard to get used to. I subconsciously worry about adjusting my pants even though I wear a good belt (Ares Ranger).

I'm looking at an OWB for winter carry with the 1911, but haven't made up my mind just yet.
Link Posted: 11/16/2015 9:32:54 PM EDT
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In an IWB holster, the damned thing just disappears. Typically I carry a spare 10rd magazine on my person as well. That gives me 19 rounds with the Wilson 47d in the gun.  I have never felt under gunned.
Link Posted: 11/16/2015 9:50:27 PM EDT
I carry my Glock 23 equally well as my TRP Operator concealability wise.


The 23 however get the not more because it is lighter on the belt.
Link Posted: 11/16/2015 11:07:20 PM EDT
G19!
Link Posted: 11/16/2015 11:14:07 PM EDT
Seriously?

G19
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 12:06:24 AM EDT
Go with a g19, trust me.

A 1911 will have your pants sagging down to your knees by lunch because of how heavy they are. Beautiful guns but I was constantly readjusting my pants.
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 12:33:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2016 12:56:19 PM EDT
I have carried both over the years IWB (although don't carry either now) and I think the 19 is easier
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 11:51:21 AM EDT
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Since you only ask for two choices really then its easy to pick for me; the 1911, trust me. They won't sag your pants if you know how to choose the right belt and holster. But it's a personal preference as the 19 is not even close to being perfect and it patterns like a shotgun while the 1911 at least 100 times better for this and it shoots very tight groups. It just makes more sense to me no matter the hype and myth of the other choice.
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 3:59:18 PM EDT
I don't notice the size or weight difference but I use a good belt and holster.
Link Posted: 3/30/2016 6:50:28 PM EDT
I carry AIWB and in that position I find the Glock 19 conceals well. I only ever carried the 1911 at 5 o'clock. I never found that to be much a problem, but I traded away the 1911 before I transitioned to AWIB. If in your carry position, thickness makes a big difference, then the 1911 may do well, but for me grip and length makes the biggest difference on concealment, followed by weight, and then slide length. Weight and slide length usually effect my comfort more than the concealment issue.
Link Posted: 4/1/2016 1:33:09 PM EDT
My edc is a 19. I prefer appendix carry. It's comfortable in the holster I use. I suppose a 1911 could be just as comfortable with a commander length slide. A full size 1911? I don't know. If you're carrying behind the hip, the length of the slide matters less, I think.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 12:07:31 PM EDT
I've carried both. I carried a 5" 1911 IWB in a versa max 2. Overall I found it uncomfortable to carry as the barrel/ bottom of holster would pinch me when sitting especially in the car and would push my belt up being more uncomfortable. 1911 is a heavier gun and you definitely will need a good belt.  I always just throw extra mags in my front pocket. Multiple 1911 mags clang around unless you have a mag holder and they seem heavier than one G19 mag. I now carry a G19 IWB. For me the G19 being smaller doesn't pinch me, it is definitely lighter weight, overall i find it more comfortable to carry than the 1911. I however never felt like I had issues with hiding either gun while carrying.
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I've carried both. I carried a 5" 1911 IWB in a versa max 2. Overall I found it uncomfortable to carry as the barrel/ bottom of holster would pinch me when sitting especially in the car and would push my belt up being more uncomfortable. 1911 is a heavier gun and you definitely will need a good belt.  I always just throw extra mags in my front pocket. Multiple 1911 mags clang around unless you have a mag holder and they seem heavier than one G19 mag. I now carry a G19 IWB. For me the G19 being smaller doesn't pinch me, it is definitely lighter weight, overall i find it more comfortable to carry than the 1911. I however never felt like I had issues with hiding either gun while carrying.
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I have a G23 and a RIA officers (3.5 barrel) model. I find I carry either just as well. The RIA is about 3/4 lb heavier but they are almost the same size. Comparing the G19/23 size Glock to a fullsize colt isn't a fair comparison.
Link Posted: 4/3/2016 11:03:21 AM EDT
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I have a G23 and a RIA officers (3.5 barrel) model. I find I carry either just as well. The RIA is about 3/4 lb heavier but they are almost the same size. Comparing the G19/23 size Glock to a fullsize colt isn't a fair comparison.
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I've carried both. I carried a 5" 1911 IWB in a versa max 2. Overall I found it uncomfortable to carry as the barrel/ bottom of holster would pinch me when sitting especially in the car and would push my belt up being more uncomfortable. 1911 is a heavier gun and you definitely will need a good belt.  I always just throw extra mags in my front pocket. Multiple 1911 mags clang around unless you have a mag holder and they seem heavier than one G19 mag. I now carry a G19 IWB. For me the G19 being smaller doesn't pinch me, it is definitely lighter weight, overall i find it more comfortable to carry than the 1911. I however never felt like I had issues with hiding either gun while carrying.

I have a G23 and a RIA officers (3.5 barrel) model. I find I carry either just as well. The RIA is about 3/4 lb heavier but they are almost the same size. Comparing the G19/23 size Glock to a fullsize colt isn't a fair comparison.


Yes but the OP was asking about fullsize 1911 vs G19. Between those two when carrying all day everyday weight and comfort becomes an issue. If it's not comfortable or easy to carry most people will end up leaving their gun at home
Link Posted: 4/6/2016 6:52:59 PM EDT
I carry a 1911 much easier than a 19...but it's been a long time since I packed a 1911. Glock makes more sense.
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Originally Posted By airsix:

I have both.

No contest.

G19 for the win.  It is smaller and significantly lighter.



Same here, extra width doesn't bother me at all


This.

 



I started with the 1911 and carried it a lot. Recently got a Glock 19 and find it to be much easier to carry.




The difference in thickness is not even noticeable to me. The difference in weight and overall length is very noticeable. The overall length of the 1911 causes problems for me when sitting.
Link Posted: 4/7/2016 5:03:09 AM EDT
I've carried both.  SA TRP and a G19.  The Glock conceals better.  It is lighter. It is shorter in both length and height.  The width is more of a comfort issue for those people who don't wear the right size pants.  Stop being so vain and wear the size that fits, not the size that makes you feel good.  FWIW, I think most people could conceal either, but it takes the right method and equipment to do so.

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Link Posted: 4/11/2016 1:24:33 AM EDT
Have and carry both from time to time. Both in the same location, 4 o'clock IWB

Glock is more comfortable: Weighs less, and doesn't dig into my side when I sit. It also doesn't print as badly, both need a sweatshirt or jacket to conceal without printing on me. I use a Raven Concealment VG2 with the claw for my Glocks. It carries well, and tucks the butt in to limit printing.
 
Love the 1911, but the hammer digs into my side, and the slide being longer makes getting to my wallet in my pocket a little harder. The 1911 also tends to sag more for me, no matter how tight I ratchet down the belt.

I live in NY, 10 round limit to mags, so I just recently switched to G30s. Best of both worlds.

For me, Glock wins. Your experiences will vary.
Best of luck.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:51:04 AM EDT
I like both but the g19 wins hands down for which one is better for carry. I love handling and shooting 1911s, possibly more than any other handgun, but the g19 is lighter, more compact, holds more rounds and is generally more reliable. Accuracy for most 1911s (under $1k) will be on par with glocks too. If you cant shoot one or the other accurately than its operator error.

Really nice 1911 triggers tend to mask fundamental trigger problems with the shooter.

Im currently 1911less but will own and carry one again.

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