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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:49:42 AM EDT
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Anyone have an opinion???? |
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:51:01 AM EDT
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You can't go wrong with either one. Both are quality weapons. Pick the one that fits your hand and feels good to you. BHP is SA while the 92 is SA/DA. Mags for each are about the same price. I'll say it before anyone else..... Buy Both!!!
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:53:20 AM EDT
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I'll take a Beretta only because they are easier to find and parts are a dime a dozen
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:57:09 AM EDT
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Thank you for the replies. I was beginning to think that the AR15.com crowd did not have an opinion.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:59:42 AM EDT
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If I had a choice between the 2 a Browning Hi-power P35 or a Beretta 92FS, I would go with the Beretta. I have both.
The Beretta is a a more modern design. The older P35s had problems feeding hollow points. Check out the long, steep feed ramp(which is not condusive to feeding odd shaped bullet noses) on the Hi-Power versus the short, shallow ramp of the 92FS, or any other modern pistol. The 92FS field stripes with a flick of a switch, the Browning you have to remove the slide stop, and the recoil spring is under tension so something can fly away. Detail strip a P35, it has many tiny small parts, and require some skill to reassemble. The 92FS has modular assemblies. The 92FS mags hold 15(factory)-17(aftermarket) rounds, the P35 mag hold 13(factory)-15(after market). For some people, they are susceptible to hammer bit from the P35, but you just adjust your grip by holding it lower, though I have never sustained a hammer bit myself on my P35, but my shooting buddy has. Not an issue with the 92FS. the reason I have my FN P35 Hi-Power GP(this is the target model, with barrel weigth and stamped sheet metal ajustable sights) made in Belgium is for nostagia purposes. The trigger is quite heavy for a target piece, but I think this is just the standard P35 trigger. |
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Posted: 8/20/2006 11:12:44 AM EDT
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Beretta 92FS.
There is a reason our military issues it today. |
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Posted: 8/20/2006 1:24:39 PM EDT
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My dad and I both have M9's. He also has a Hipower. I prefer the beretta.
Why: For me, the beretta has less felt recoil, it seems to return to original position more consistently, and just seems to fit better in my hand. It could be different for someone else though. Some knowledgeable people will say the HiPower is the best of the best. And I'm not disputing that. It's a good design. for me though, if you have to single action, not having that extra safety like on a 1911 makes me a tad uncomortable. It shouldn't but I think the 1911 and the Beretta have a little bit more safety built into them. I say you try either one out though somehow and see what feels good to you. Because that's really the crux of the matter. But I was glad to share and thank you for asking. |
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Posted: 8/20/2006 2:04:00 PM EDT
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I also prefer the Beretta, for the foremost reason that something can be easily done about the trigger. It is, however, a rather large 9mm to carry on one's hip. If I were pressed to carry one or the other IWB on a daily basis, I'd end up with the BHP, but it would require a fair bit of work first.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 2:25:07 PM EDT
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I have both but I prefer to shoot the 92. It's my duty sidearm and I tend to practice with it as often as possible. I have a mint mid-70's HiPower and it shoots like a dream. I put about 5-600 rnds a year through just to keep in practice.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 2:34:12 PM EDT
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Thank you all again for the repiles and information / opinions. You have been very helpful.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 3:37:50 PM EDT
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[Spartacus] I TOO PREFER THE BERETTA[/Spartacus] For all the reasons already mentioned the Beretta 92FS is the way to go. Just thought I would add my very own $.02
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Posted: 8/20/2006 9:01:23 PM EDT
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I've shot both and liked the Beretta better myself. I really wanted to like the HP, but the one I shot had a heavy trigger along with a narrow trigger which gave my finger a blister pretty quick. I got hammer bite from it as well and the recoil seemed more noticeable than with the Beretta. I originally got the Beretta for my wife, but liked it enough to get another one for myself.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 9:08:55 PM EDT
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CZ75! I love the grip size on the HiPower but I prefer DA/SA so I would vote for the Beretta but I had to throw the CZ75 in.
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Posted: 8/20/2006 9:12:35 PM EDT
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I own 2 beretta 92's, 1 centurion and 1 normal, I also own 2 hi-powers, one detective model and one normal. I prefer the 92 only because of the da/sa platform and the positive safety engagement. If the hi-power had a more definitive safety engagement like the 1911 I would prefer that because it feels better in my hand, is slimmer, more compact and just points better to me
as said earlier, buy both 
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Posted: 8/21/2006 3:56:25 AM EDT
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I own both, but would take the Beretta over the Hi-Power hands down.
The Hi-Power has a very long reset and for a single action pistol, has a rather heavy break to it (mine does anyway). The Beretta has a very nice, crisp single action trigger. Both are quite accurate, but the Beretta fits my hands better and shoots better for me. I don't even mind the double action pull on the Beretta. To me it's not even a contest -- the Beretta wins by a landslide. |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 5:45:39 AM EDT
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I love the Hi-power until I start shooting one. It bits the web of my hand. For that reason my nightstand gun is a Beretta 92FS. It's realiable and I really enjoy shooting it.
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Posted: 8/21/2006 8:43:11 AM EDT
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I have both and enjoy them both but if I had to choose just one I would choose Hi-Power only because the grip feels better in my hand. In terms of accuracy they are about same but in terms of reliability Beretta is way ahead.
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Posted: 8/21/2006 12:23:38 PM EDT
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I was issued a M9 in the service and I now own a BHP. I personally prefer the BHP. More compact and I really like the way it feels in my hand. After breaking it in it has been 100% reliable.
However I would feel perfectly fine carrying a M9 too. |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 2:27:23 PM EDT
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Hmm, the opinion here favors the Beretta.
I ain't no target shooter, I love Glocks, and I suck at DA/SA transition big time. The heavy, but clean-breaking trigger on BHP works great for me. But YMMV. And I'd pick BHP over |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 3:41:52 PM EDT
[#20]
Thank you all again for the comments and information! You all have been a very big help to me.
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Posted: 8/21/2006 3:44:11 PM EDT
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Had a Beretta, still have the T-series BHP I got in 1986. Added a larger safety and night sights. It is carried IWB in a Watch 6 Sparks holster, very comfortable. The 92 was a very reliable pistol, a bit long on the DA, nice SA. Never tried carrying IWB but it is bulker than the BHP.
A little polishing on the feedramp and the BHP has never bobbled on a JHP. The feeding angle is pretty good on the BHP anyway so I would suspect the magazines if there is a feeding issue. I usually shoot and carry 1911s and the reset issue never bothered me. I prefer the SIG 226 DAK to the Beretta, shoot it better too. It has not displaced the BHP yet for CCW but it might.  But guns like so many other things are not a one-size fits all. Depends on your use and how the pistol feels in your hand. Try renting them before buying if possible. |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 5:27:19 PM EDT
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Its like comparing a 69 Ferrari to a 99 Camaro.
Sure, the Camaro has more legroom, is way faster, has real heat and air conditioning, and is more practical to drive everyday... but damn the Ferrari is sexy! The BHP is a much better "show piece" (how they say BBQ gun?) and the 92FS does everything else better. Which is more important to you? |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 5:29:58 PM EDT
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That is definitely subjective, the 92 is hella sexy too. It's the ferrari and the BHP is like a aston martin. |
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Posted: 8/21/2006 5:37:53 PM EDT
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Browning hi-power. I was singularly unimpressed when I fired the beretta.
I would choose an HK USP over everything else for the DA/SA and safety in a more reasonable place than that twisted, satanic placement on the beretta. And HK's are rock solid. But the hi-power is a classic. |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 2:16:17 PM EDT
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Well, I have both. I have also competed with both in black light matches. In case you don't know, those are timed and scored events where the lights go out and the targets vary in distance and areas where points are scored and only where they've been outlined with highlighter show up under the black lights. You can't have night sights or a flashlight, so what you're doing is basically instinctive shooting like in the house in the middle of the night. I like both guns, but when I use the Browning, I always get a very high score. Every time. The Beretta is more hit and miss. So, for me anyway, the Browning is the way to go. Hitting your target is the most important thing, and having a gun that points naturally on target is the best thing you can have.
Now, having said all that, I do like the Beretta and enjoy shooting it. I do not know what will fit you the best. If you could somehow try both, that would help you a lot. |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 3:34:37 PM EDT
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What do you have like half a thumb?  My fingers are not that long and I find the safety to be right on. Maybe I have a long thumb?
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Posted: 8/23/2006 6:21:42 AM EDT
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I too found out that BHP points incredibly natural for me. Double taps are extremely accurate, as well as point shooting at 10 yds. 
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Posted: 8/23/2006 6:59:22 AM EDT
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if you can reach the safety with your firing hand thumb, without shifting your grip, than you are in the minority. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 7:55:47 AM EDT
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After using a Beretta for a season in IDPA, I found the quickest way to deactivate the safety was to sweep it off with your firing hand thumb as your thumb moves into position on the grip. It helps to slightly smooth the sharp edge on the safety lever. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 9:27:07 AM EDT
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may work, but not ideal for a military sidearm. i would flip it with my nonfiring thumb, but didnt feel comfortable doing it. we wouldnt have a round chambered, so most just carried on fire. (post regulations) |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 9:54:56 AM EDT
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I own two 92's, a classic M-9 and an SS Inox. Both have been completely reliable with all types of ammo without any failures of any kind.
I have also shot the Browning, I perfer the Beretta, parts are easy to find, and can be found inexpensivley. In fact I have spare barrels for both guns, extra springs, etc. all found over the intraweb and purchased easily. Plus the single action/double action trigger is a plus.... 
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Posted: 8/23/2006 11:08:38 AM EDT
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Let me add one more to that minority list, because the M9/92FS's safety is in a very good spot as far as I'm concerned. I don't IPSC yet, but when I get the opportunity the 92FS seems like one of the best choices I can see and it's what I'll be using. I continually train to flip up the safety with my firing thumb to keep it as natural and as fast as possible while drawing and aiming. I have no problem with my grip shifting. My grip stays stable and my hand is aiming at my target while only my thumb moves. The more you practice the faster it gets. A pistol has to fit you well though and if it doesn't than your fighting against it more than you should and it's the wrong pistol choice for you. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 11:14:03 AM EDT
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I don't understand why you have to have the weapon with the safety engage. On duty not a single officer I know carries his weapon without one in the chamber and the safety off. If you need to use it, pull it out and squeeze the trigger. That is what we've been taught since day one. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 4:49:07 PM EDT
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Yes I agree, It would be exactly like a double action revolver. I do however engage my safety / decocker before holstering because I believe I have less of a chance for a Negligent Discharge, or whatever you call them, with the trigger disengaged. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 5:03:12 PM EDT
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My thumb rests on the underside of the safety in the off position. I guess it would be called a high ride hold. But yes, when I pull it out of the holster when my thumb goes to the position it rests while firing, it automatically flicks the safety off. Some of you must rest your thumb down on the grip or something, eh? I tried doing a pic but I'm having problems with downloading. You know what, I might have an old one.....
No I don't, but either way, that's where my thumb rests. If I leave it a little lower, I rest it on the slide stop and the slide wont stay back, so I learned to stick it up higher. It's in pretty much the same position for firing a 1911 with your thumb on top the safety. |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 5:28:03 PM EDT
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I have used the Beretta before, but do not own one.
I do own many Hi Powers though. As others have mentioned, the grip feels very good, and the pistol is a natural pointer for me. Follow up shots are easy. Parts are easy to find as well. And you can definitely get a very nice trigger on a BHP - not as nice as you can on some other pistols, but nice nonetheless. And they do clean up nice! 
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Posted: 8/23/2006 11:42:30 PM EDT
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law enforcement in the civilian world and on a military post is two different worlds. on the particular post i worked, weapon must be carried on safe, no round in the chamber. per post commander. are you taught to keep a shotgun and ar in that condition as well? |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:30:29 AM EDT
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We keep our shotguns "cruiser ready" with a soft slide for the reasons that the shotguns are left in the car and not on our persons. When the shotguns comes out, a round goes into the chamber. Carrying a firearm unloaded is a quick easy way to get yourself killed, but you have to follow the ROE's set forth by the base commander. |
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