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Posted: 10/21/2013 10:50:43 AM EST
So, I've come across this cool 1911...

The slide is a 22 conversion, the only markings on the frame are "United States Property" on the left, and "311124" on the right.

The slide is obviously colt, but being as the frame is the actual firearm... I'm wondering where it's from.... From doing some quick google work, It seems that serial number would put it in the range of 1918 mfg colt frames?

I was told the gun came from the estate sale of an older gunsmith who died a few years back... Looks like he just had a frame and slapped the conversion on and called it a day?

Thanks in advance for any help!









Link Posted: 10/21/2013 3:43:36 PM EST
Looks like a Colt Ace conversion kit on a M1911 frame. Looks good in my book. How does it shoot?
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 3:46:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Vulcanator:
Looks like a Colt Ace conversion kit on a M1911 frame. Looks good in my book. How does it shoot?
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Yep. and it's an older one [22 conversion] looking at the sights. Bout $300 right there complete without the box.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 3:49:15 PM EST
Definitely a nice shooter!

I can find info on the conversion kits, but I'm more curious as to where the frame came from and what happened to the rest of the pistol.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 4:14:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By htomeheb:
Definitely a nice shooter!

I can find info on the conversion kits, but I'm more curious as to where the frame came from and what happened to the rest of the pistol.
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Slide could have cracked, it was used as parts on something else, someone yobbed it up working on it, it got traded for the .22 slide assy, who knows.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 4:59:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


Slide could have cracked, it was used as parts on something else, someone yobbed it up working on it, it got traded for the .22 slide assy, who knows.
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Originally Posted By htomeheb:
Definitely a nice shooter!

I can find info on the conversion kits, but I'm more curious as to where the frame came from and what happened to the rest of the pistol.


Slide could have cracked, it was used as parts on something else, someone yobbed it up working on it, it got traded for the .22 slide assy, who knows.
I meant it as more of a rhetorical question. I'm sure nobody knows the true answer.


Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:48:00 PM EST
You had me interested when you talked about the frame then I saw the hammer beavertail heavy reblue and modern trigger. It may shoot great but any collector value in the frame is long gone. It was very common years ago before people knew better to just use whatever you could find to mixmaster a gun together
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 6:53:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Vulcanator:
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I like it!


Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:57:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By captain127:
You had me interested when you talked about the frame then I saw the hammer beavertail heavy reblue and modern trigger. It may shoot great but any collector value in the frame is long gone. It was very common years ago before people knew better to just use whatever you could find to mixmaster a gun together
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It was reblued but the beavertail is a drop-in unit...the frame wasn't cut. With a proper hammer, trigger and grip safety it could easily be restored. The reblue kills some value but it's not hopeless...if someone wanted to restore it, that is.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 10:58:33 AM EST
That is a very nice rig....someone put a Colt conversion unit on a GI frame and then made some changes to make it what i bet is a damn good shooter...take that thing out and run some rounds through her....I bet you will be surprised how well she shoots....the conversion unit and the mags alone are worth a few bucks...go to gunbroker and check out pricing on Colt .22 conversion kits then decide how well you did
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:01:19 PM EST
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It was reblued but the beavertail is a drop-in unit...the frame wasn't cut. With a proper hammer, trigger and grip safety it could easily be restored. The reblue kills some value but it's not hopeless...if someone wanted to restore it, that is.
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Originally Posted By captain127:
You had me interested when you talked about the frame then I saw the hammer beavertail heavy reblue and modern trigger. It may shoot great but any collector value in the frame is long gone. It was very common years ago before people knew better to just use whatever you could find to mixmaster a gun together


It was reblued but the beavertail is a drop-in unit...the frame wasn't cut. With a proper hammer, trigger and grip safety it could easily be restored. The reblue kills some value but it's not hopeless...if someone wanted to restore it, that is.


When I learned the frame was old, I kind of figured it was moot because of all the newer parts, but knowing it's easily reversible (should one want to) is kind of neat.

She's a great shooter for sure.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:43:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By htomeheb:
I meant it as more of a rhetorical question. I'm sure nobody knows the true answer.
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By htomeheb:
Definitely a nice shooter!

I can find info on the conversion kits, but I'm more curious as to where the frame came from and what happened to the rest of the pistol.


Slide could have cracked, it was used as parts on something else, someone yobbed it up working on it, it got traded for the .22 slide assy, who knows.
I meant it as more of a rhetorical question. I'm sure nobody knows the true answer.


If only guns could tell their stories, you just never know where it's been and what it may have seen.

Cool piece, not a collector, but I wouldn't be ashamed of picking it up for a decent price.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 8:44:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By htomeheb:
When I learned the frame was old, I kind of figured it was moot because of all the newer parts, but knowing it's easily reversible (should one want to) is kind of neat.

She's a great shooter for sure.
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The great thing about 1911 frames is that they never changed (other than the finger cutouts behind the trigger for the A1)...there's no hardening or other issues there. A 100 year old 1911 frame with a modern slide will be every bit as solid as a freshly minted 1911 off of Colt's assembly line today. The only "soft metal" issues that ever cropped up were on the slide (specifically the front of the slide, the slide stop notch, and the breech face/firing pin hole). You can have a modern slide fit to it if you want and enjoy blasting .45ACP with no worries about battering the frame, assuming the slide and barrel are properly fit
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