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Posted: 12/17/2016 3:42:24 AM EDT
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http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
This is probably the best ballistic testing I've ever seen, especially considering it was done with subcompacts.I do wish however they'd test Black Hills ammo, but they've said they're going to add more at some point. I use the Remington 124+P Golden Sabers. I will be switching to the Black Hills 115+p Tac XP Barnes when I can find them though. http://www.black-hills.com/shop/new-pistol-ammo/9mm-luger/ last picture should be the Barnes load. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 7:00:16 AM EDT
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147gr HST
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Posted: 12/17/2016 8:46:02 AM EDT
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Just picked up a G43, went back 5-6 pages and saw nothing except occasional mentions for 147 gr. Obviously my purpose for the 43 is a light carry gun, I have a 23 loaded with 180s if I want some weight. Granted it's only 7-9 round capacity but surely all those extra grains add up to real weight in the mag so I'm leaning towards 115 or 125 grain bullets in this gun. Is there any particular reason not to run lighter bullets in the 43? If your definition of real weight is approximately 1/3 of an ounce difference between a fully loaded G43 with 124 grain bullets vs 147 grain bullets, then yes, there is a reason. Otherwise, my first choice for my G43 is 147 HST, Gold Dot 124+p a very, very close second. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:13:05 AM EDT
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I just picked up a G43 and have some 147 +P HST. Are those OK to shoot in it? I assume yes but just want to verify.
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:38:51 AM EDT
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I carry P9HST2
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:41:39 AM EDT
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I just picked up a G43 and have some 147 +P HST. Are those OK to shoot in it? I assume yes but just want to verify. Can I use +P and +P+ ammunition? Glock suggests using ammunition that is manufactured and meets SAAMI or industry specifications. If you are not sure the ammunition brand or type you choose is safe for use, call the ammunition manufacturer and ask if the product meets SAAMI guidelines before using it in you firearm. Some +P ammunition meets these guidelines, +P+ normally does not. This ammunition may generate a higher pressure over the standard loadings, and may shorten the component life of your firearm. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:03:07 AM EDT
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I carry ra9 127 +p+ in my 26
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:13:07 AM EDT
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147 gr Golden Sabres in all my 9mm's
At the range I use 147 cheap Armscor FMJs |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:21:25 AM EDT
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The difference between 7 147s and 7 124s is a whopping 0.368 ounces. Shoot the ammo that performs the best and don't worry about the weight.
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:39:53 AM EDT
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Hornady 115 grain Critical Defense is a reasonable choice. It functioned perfectly in initial tests with my son's 43. It shoots to the same point of impact as all standard 9mm 115 grain FMJ loads for practice. That 43 has about 1200 rounds through it testing the Hornady load and FMJ practice.
I have not screwed him up jumping weights and power levels. We adjusted the sight for a windage zero with the 115 Hornady. All 115 FMJ ball goes to the same place through 25 yards. He embarrasses me since at 25 yards he keeps all hits on IPSC "A" plates whereas the olde mano, weak, damaged, and of bifocals sometimes misses with much bigger guns. Getting old isn't for sissies. The lighter bullet has a reasonable 9mm recoil and shoots to elevation zero also with the factory sights. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:43:56 AM EDT
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124gr Gold Dot runs 100% in my G43 and has always been a solid performer.
I bought a case of it a couple years back so it allows me to test a gun a lot before carrying it. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 3:42:37 PM EDT
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147gr HST This, but I'm pretty much a fan of most the HST and Gold Dots. In my 43 I have the 147 standard pressure HST loaded. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 5:17:49 PM EDT
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All 9mm's that I might use for defensive purposes are loaded with 147gr. HST.
G43, G19, G34, Glock mag AR pistol. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 5:28:56 PM EDT
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Yeah the added weight is not going to amount to anything, but it made sense to my Fireball induced brain lol. Sounds like the majority prefer 147, which is what I've always carried in my CM9. Haven't shot the 43 yet but I think I'm going to like it a LOT more than the Kahr.
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Posted: 12/18/2016 12:22:02 AM EDT
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. Haven't shot the 43 yet but I think I'm going to like it a LOT more than the Kahr. You are ABSOLUTELY gonna like the 43 A LOT more than the Kahr. Been there... 
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Posted: 12/18/2016 2:09:07 AM EDT
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Love the HST's.
There's about the same amount of difference in weight between the 124's and 147's as there is a difference in ballistics and energy. If youre really splitting hairs, the 124hst has a bit more energy than the 147g. |
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Posted: 12/18/2016 12:22:51 PM EDT
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HSTs
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Posted: 12/18/2016 1:31:02 PM EDT
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9mm gel test
^6th and 9th one down. Out of a 3.5" barrel (about what the 43 has) the standard pressure 124 and 147 HSTS have the same average expansion with the 124's having deeper penetration. Both are awesome. |
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Posted: 12/18/2016 6:41:51 PM EDT
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Carrying Underwood 90gr Xtreme Defender std pressure now.
Just got my SiCo threaded barrel for the 43, and will start carrying 147gr HST's when my Obsidian gets approved. |
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Posted: 12/18/2016 7:59:46 PM EDT
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Hornady Critical Defense 135gr. Very Good rounds. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 11:59:46 PM EDT
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Running Winchester PDX-1 Defenders in 124gr here through my G43.
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Posted: 12/20/2016 9:57:15 AM EDT
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I chose 147gr HSTs mainly from Dr. Roberts testing. Additionally they are a top performer across all the other testing I have read. It also helps that they are the most reasonably priced of the premium defensive loads.
.42/round shipped from massammo.com. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 6:49:53 PM EDT
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Looking at some of those Luckygunner photos are awful - especially the Hydra-shok .45
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