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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:28:49 PM EDT
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new recoil spring, check the plastic firing pin cups and slide locking block for wear. Call it good. detail, clean and lube.
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:38:01 PM EDT
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If it's still in spec and running, you don't HAVE to change anything. A visual inspection for wear should tell you what might need replacing.
Can check recoil spring by holding the pistol muzzle up, retracting the slide, and EASING it forward. If it goes fully into battery on its own, the spring is OK. If a gap remains between the breech face on the slide and the barrel, the spring should be replaced. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 3:17:17 PM EDT
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NOTHING! Don't do like the IDIOTS, and start replacing parts, ANTICIPATING failure! Bored "Bubbas" who enjoy finger fuck'n their guns!
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Posted: 10/21/2016 3:39:23 PM EDT
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NOTHING! Don't do like the IDIOTS, and start replacing parts, ANTICIPATING failure! Bored "Bubbas" who enjoy finger fuck'n their guns! Sounds like he's asking of the gun needs any real preventative maintenance at his given round count...... Recoil spring assembly is cheap insurance. I'd swap that and leave the rest be! |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 4:06:36 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection.
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Posted: 10/21/2016 4:15:53 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 7:41:55 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:58:33 PM EDT
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Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. So these guys will be genuine glock? https://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126609&CAT=741 |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:13:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. So these guys will be genuine glock? https://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126609&CAT=741 Yep. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:24:06 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. So these guys will be genuine glock? https://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126609&CAT=741 nm - the brownells prices and shipping seem to be more reasonable. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:44:58 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Any of the reputable places like Midway, Brownells, Glockparts, Lone Wolf, etc. So these guys will be genuine glock? https://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126609&CAT=741 See how that page includes a notation that the manufacturer is Glock Inc.? Yes, that's genuine Glock. But you're right that Brownell's shipping is better. But unless you see an issue with your current spring, why replace the spring? Having one on hand is a different thing - you can do the test mentioned above (which is a Glock armorer test, by the way, not just something someone else made up) between heats at a competition and change if you need to. Changing out perfectly good parts may be a "guarantee" you won't have a problem, but maybe it isn't a guarantee - a working part you've proven works for you is better than a new part that might not be perfect, even if it's straight from Glock. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:50:53 PM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 10:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. So, you don't change the oil in your car/truck then, right? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 7:01:51 AM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. So, you don't change the oil in your car/truck then, right? Do you change light bulbs that are still working? Changing oil is not the same as changing a working mechanical part. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:15:37 AM EDT
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. So, you don't change the oil in your car/truck then, right? My vehicles need there oil changed, my Glocks keep shooting, lousy comparison. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:20:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you change light bulbs that are still working? Changing oil is not the same as changing a working mechanical part. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. So, you don't change the oil in your car/truck then, right? Do you change light bulbs that are still working? Changing oil is not the same as changing a working mechanical part. Both oil and a spring will weaken with use and be less effective . That's why there are recommended intervals to change them. In contrast, the locking block doesn't have an interval because it's not doing any work. A FTRTB is not something I'm interested in at an inopportune moment. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. This..... where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. I get mine directly from Glock.. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 12:02:08 PM EDT
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I always replace recoil springs every 3-4000 rounds. Like others have said, cheap insurance. Other springs I would change every 5-6000 rounds. I would also get some magazine springs as well. These are all cheap to get and you will always use need/use them,especially in competition shooting.
As far as the poster with the name calling, it is not needed and you should grow up. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 2:00:52 PM EDT
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new recoil spring, check the plastic firing pin cups and slide locking block for wear. Call it good. detail, clean and lube. The average joe doesn't need to remove spring cups from their firing pin assembly and then try to reassemble them. OP, 5000 is hardly enough to be concerned about with a Glock. If you feel the recoil spring would give you piece of mind by replacing, feel free to. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 2:47:02 PM EDT
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5000 rounds. LOL. I have replaced one magazine spring after around 40000 rounds on a Gen 2 G19. The wife has a Gen 1 G17 that has never had any springs replaced. God only knows how many rounds that old gun has.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:47:47 PM EDT
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Per Glock at the last couple of armorer's classes I took, they recommend replacing the recoil springs in Gen 3 and earlier guns (single spring assemblies) every 3000 rds, although they allowed that 9mm guns can go "a little longer". They won't say what "a little longer" means. Gen4 guns and those with dual recoil spring assemblies (G26 and other subcompacts) should be replaced every 5000 rds, although they again allow that 9mm guns can go "a little longer". Glock no longer uses nor teaches holding the gun at 45 degrees and let the slide run home slowly. It is now a blanket replacement schedule. When asked, they wouldn't say why. I suspect that it is to keep from battering and breaking the MIM locking blocks, although I will admit that this is only my supposition.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 7:59:58 PM EDT
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Slap in a DK trigger, skeletonized striker, 4.5# striker spring, SS guide rod with a 10# recoil spring and call it good.
Then you'll have a baller gun. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 10:43:03 PM EDT
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Both oil and a spring will weaken with use and be less effective . That's why there are recommended intervals to change them. In contrast, the locking block doesn't have an interval because it's not doing any work. A FTRTB is not something I'm interested in at an inopportune moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. So, you don't change the oil in your car/truck then, right? Do you change light bulbs that are still working? Changing oil is not the same as changing a working mechanical part. Both oil and a spring will weaken with use and be less effective . That's why there are recommended intervals to change them. In contrast, the locking block doesn't have an interval because it's not doing any work. A FTRTB is not something I'm interested in at an inopportune moment. I would definitely change out an RSA at the recommended interval on a duty or carry pistol. And maybe with a competition pistol too. BUT with a competition gun, I'd probably do (and document) all the armorer tests before and after every match, so I'd know how well parts like the RSA, the connector, and the extractor were performing on a regular basis. Doing that, I would be less worried about round count and more worried about changes in the gun's performance from one match to another, and I'd change parts accordingly. With that said, the OP is talking about a Gen 3 competition gun. Glock's guidelines call for a Gen 3 RSA lifespan of about 3,000 rounds. At 5,000 rounds, his RSA is probably on borrowed time, and I'll bet it doesn't pass the test as easily as it should after all that use. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:13:47 PM EDT
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where do you guys buy your spare RSAs? I don't trust people to not try to sell me a knock off. I buy my RSA's directly from Glock. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:19:45 PM EDT
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That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For Gen 3s, I replace the RSA every 3000 rounds. Everything else just gets a visual inspection. That's crazy...if it ain't broke don't fix it, I've got way more rounds then that on a couple, still running like they did when they were new. There's a reason it's called preventative maintainance. You replace wear items before they fail. I guess you don't change your rifle springs until your gun chokes. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:21:43 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the help! I will be going with a new rsa at the least.
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