Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Posted: 5/12/2008 10:56:25 AM EDT
What weight and bullet types are you useing in your carry guns? And what made you choose what you use?
Link Posted: 5/12/2008 5:00:05 PM EDT
180 grain regardless of manufacturer. I get less recoil and better accuracy (as a general rule) with the 180's.
Link Posted: 5/12/2008 5:06:03 PM EDT
I agree.
180 grain for less recoil and increased accuracy in whatever I use.
Link Posted: 5/12/2008 5:14:41 PM EDT
180 Winchester Ranger T, because I dont like 9mm and wanted to carry more than I would with a 45.
Link Posted: 5/12/2008 7:48:49 PM EDT
180 grain HST
Link Posted: 5/12/2008 7:50:37 PM EDT
I use my USP as one of my HD guns, and keep it loaded with 180 gr Ranger-T's.
Link Posted: 5/13/2008 4:23:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rabon:
What weight and bullet types are you useing in your carry guns? And what made you choose what you use?



Sig P229 40sw

Likes all types 135 to 200gr

The 200gr JHP are very accurate

For Protection

180gr RANGER Regular not Bonded
Link Posted: 5/13/2008 4:24:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bnielsonak47:
180 Winchester Ranger T, because I dont like 9mm and wanted to carry more than I would with a 45.


I feel the Same with my 6906 9mm or P229 40sw

Shot placement is the main Factor

9mm is more than Enough to get the job done
Link Posted: 5/13/2008 3:57:26 PM EDT
Thanks, I will try the 180 grain bullets they appear to work well.
Link Posted: 5/13/2008 8:19:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2008 8:39:46 PM EDT by SilentType]
I really struggled with this issue myself awhile back.

The .165 JHP does have a higher velocity than the .180 and slighter more KE, but since this is a JHP and not a FMJ that extra KE works against it. The .165 JHP hits a target with such KE that it expands more quickly and as an effect has less penetration. In addition, the .165 JHP hits the target with such force that it is more prone to come apart than a .180 and does not retain it's size and weight as well traveling through the target. So, with the .180 you get a slow moving heavy round that is able to get deeper penetration and retain more of its size and weight.

So you get better penetration, expansion, and retention on average with the .180 JHP than the .165 JHP.

Again if this was FMJ rifle round things would be different, but the JHP design with the intended expansion is what is key here. More force it hits with more force acts against it to slow and stop it causing the JHP nose to bloom sooner. I did worry a bit about over penetration, but figured it was acceptable to me.

Also as other have said because the round leaves the barrel with less velocity there is less recoil (velocity counts more in terms of energy) with the .180. That's hard for most folks to grasp that the lighter round creates more recoil, but it is true.

Link Posted: 5/13/2008 8:55:42 PM EDT
In my duty gun a G-23, I am issued Winchester Ranger 165 grain. But off duty I carry a H&K USP 40 full size and that is loaded with Corbon 150 grain jhp and if I'm out of Corbon I'll use Winchester Ranger 155 grain regular jhp. Both the Corbon & Ranger regular jhp provide plenty of velocity 1200 fps or more. They are more likely to expand in human media and not over penetrate which is an consideration when out and about in the public. Remember when I'm on duty and I use my gun I have the backing of my dept to help me out, when you are off duty or a civilian you'll have to cover your own ass!
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 7:10:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GSAR426:
180 grain HST


Me too!
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 7:18:03 AM EDT
180 Grain HSTs or 180 Grain short-Barrel Gold-Dots in my USP and SIG P-226

I like the rapid expansion/partial fragmentation with good penetration.
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 9:33:40 AM EDT
The shorter the barrel the lighter the bullet to increase velocity. Full size are 180g and compacts are 165g.
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 4:28:07 PM EDT
In my p226 and my p229 180 gold dots

In my usp 40 Hornaday Tap 180
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 6:27:54 PM EDT
Greetings gentlemen.
No DPXers in here?
Link Posted: 5/16/2008 8:52:58 AM EDT
165 Gold Dots....But I now carry a 10mm and use 180 Grain Gold Dots.


I have tried the DPXs (I load Barnes in many different calibers, especially my elk guns and love them), but was not impressed with the velocity (I know that this is not the determining factor in carry ammo...but it plays a huge role that many people ignore), and have handloaded some. They are pretty wicked at higher velocities...especially out of my 10 mike mikes.
Link Posted: 5/16/2008 9:26:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2008 9:29:42 AM EDT by sublimeshooter]
height=8
Greetings gentlemen.
No DPXers in here?


Got one right here 140 grain DPX, 40 S&W .I haven't had any issue's with Corbon ammo...

1200fps and 448ft lbs seems pretty good to me!
Link Posted: 5/18/2008 5:21:53 AM EDT
GLOCK 22 - 180 gr. HST
Link Posted: 5/18/2008 5:30:50 PM EDT
180 gold dots in my G 23
Link Posted: 5/19/2008 12:53:24 AM EDT
Handloads 135gr Nosler JHPs @ 1400fps.

I like light and fast for street. If I am going into the woods, and not carrying my .41mag, then I go for the double tap 200gr WFNGC rounds.

Link Posted: 5/24/2008 9:28:56 AM EDT
I didn't notice much difference between 180 gr. GD's or 165 gr. GD's in my G27. I have been sticking to 165 gr. GD's because of the reduced velocity out of my G27 short barrel and use it in my G23 as well.

I hear the GD bonded bulletts are better penetration through glass.
Link Posted: 5/28/2008 7:35:47 PM EDT
180 HST in a USPc
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:53:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:54:57 PM EDT by tenmikemike]
Speer 165-gr Gold Dots, 13+12+12 on tap and ready to go at a moments' notice out of a CZ-75B
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 5:13:25 AM EDT
I carry 180 grain HST's in my G23.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 7:37:03 AM EDT
Was carrying 165gr Remington Golden Saber in my XD-40 Service. Started having problems with the bullets setting back into the cases after only two or three times being chambered. I have since switch to Federal 165 Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) in my XD-40SC.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 3:33:19 AM EDT
My department mandates we use Winchester 165gr Ranger SXT in our duty G22 weapons. When not at the cop shop I carry a G23 as my EDC with 14 rounds of 165gr Federal HST rounds or Speer 165gr GDHP when I can't get the HST's.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 4:49:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/6/2008 9:11:49 AM EDT by USMC_1983-89]
180 gr. Ranger-T's in my XD40 Service. I'm open to trying the DPX though, if of course, I can find them at a reasonably priced rate...

ETA: I found Corbon DPX for $30.03 per box. Much better than the $36-39 I've been seeing. If Hotpig doesn't get some more Ranger T in soon, I may try some of the DPX.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 6:27:39 AM EDT
180gr Speer Gold Dots.

First JHP I found for .40 and they work well enough.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 5:13:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GSAR426:
180 grain HST


Yep....That one.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 6:26:26 PM EDT
Remington UMC 180gr. HP

I get them in 100 packs from Wally-World. They shoot great and cycle well through all of my semi-auto pistols. They are just as good as you're gonna get, given shot placement is key to everything. They are a decent price at $25 per 100. I buy the Winchester White Box (WWB) FMJ 100 packs for $20 each, and use them for target practice when possible being that some of my guns are picky and only like to shoot the HP's. I like to shoot with what I carry.
Link Posted: 6/6/2008 6:49:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Thumbtack:
Handloads 135gr Nosler JHPs @ 1400fps.

I like light and fast for street. If I am going into the woods, and not carrying my .41mag, then I go for the double tap 200gr WFNGC rounds.



Wow, what are you launching those mean bastards out of?
Link Posted: 6/10/2008 7:59:11 AM EDT
Glock 22 - 180 gr Hornady TAP
Link Posted: 6/10/2008 10:56:47 AM EDT
165grs, the best for .40sw imo
Link Posted: 6/10/2008 11:03:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tep0583:
180gr Speer Gold Dots.

First JHP I found for .40 and they work well enough.


Its what I carry. Decision based on data I've read regarding expansion/penetration.
Link Posted: 6/15/2008 9:30:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nugun55:

Originally Posted By GSAR426:
180 grain HST


Yep....That one.


same here.
Link Posted: 6/18/2008 8:58:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AF1ACURA:

Originally Posted By tep0583:
180gr Speer Gold Dots.

First JHP I found for .40 and they work well enough.


Its what I carry. Decision based on data I've read regarding expansion/penetration.


Yep. Bought some for testing purposes in my USPc and read up on them later.

Everything I read seemed to indicate they would be more then acceptable as a defensive round. I see no reason to switch now.

Link Posted: 6/19/2008 12:56:09 PM EDT
180gr Gold Dot
Reload em myself for my XD-40
Link Posted: 6/20/2008 7:58:55 AM EDT
180gr Golden Sabre cuz da man said I have to. If I had a choice, I would carry 180gr. HST.
Link Posted: 6/20/2008 12:43:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 918v:
180gr Golden Sabre cuz da man said I have to. If I had a choice, I would carry 180gr. HST.



California Highway Patrol?
Link Posted: 6/24/2008 2:56:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/24/2008 2:57:31 PM EDT by Cobra700]

Originally Posted By USMC_1983-89:

ETA: I found Corbon DPX for $30.03 per box.


May I know where?




Originally Posted By msz:
Remington UMC 180gr. HP

I get them in 100 packs from Wally-World. I buy the Winchester White Box (WWB) FMJ 100 packs for $20 each


Geeze! I would love to pay $20 for 100 Its $30 here.

Link Posted: 6/26/2008 10:13:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/26/2008 10:13:35 PM EDT by tenmikemike]
165-grain Speer Gold Dots!

13+12+12 baby!!
Link Posted: 6/27/2008 1:53:58 PM EDT
I am using 180 gr Rangers also like many others. I use them because they have decent ballistics. I was using 155 Gr Silver Tips but I ran out. When I run out of Rangers I will go to the 2 boxes of Hydra Shocks.
Link Posted: 6/27/2008 2:01:36 PM EDT
Correction.. make those Black talons I am currently using.
Link Posted: 7/8/2008 1:13:40 PM EDT
Corbon 135gr out of my G23.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 12:19:41 AM EDT
P229: 165 Speer Gold Dots. The barrel is too short for the 180s, and the 155s I have tried have way too much flash in low light (Winchester Silvertips, etc.). Plus I have read a lot of good things about the 165s on the interweb.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 12:31:22 AM EDT
180gr GD, Ranger T, or HST depending on availability. I really need to stock up on some HSTs but those suckers are hard to come by these days.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 5:54:42 PM EDT
I carry the Remington Golden Saber 40 S&W 180 Grain & never had that problem. Did you try another box? It could just have been a bad batch.
Link Posted: 8/9/2008 5:55:37 AM EDT
180gr gold dots is what my agency issues.. but anything 180gr in a good hollow point would be my choice.
Link Posted: 8/16/2008 1:11:12 PM EDT
Glock 22C is duty pistol. Used to have RA40T, until the last department mandatory range session (we shot up the Ranger in the session), then it was replaced by Hornady TAP, I think the 180gr TAP CQ. (not sure, they didn't issue it by box, just "refill your mags with this new duty ammo [which was loose in a large box, but I saw TAP boxes in the trashcans] and GTFO")

I use it because they issue it to me...
Link Posted: 8/16/2008 4:24:10 PM EDT
Winchester Ranger Bonded 180 gr. I thought if they're good enough for the Feds I'd give them a try. My Sig 229 liked them.
Top Top