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Posted: 8/21/2004 1:42:39 PM EST
Probably well covered or at least contencious. I'm looking to get a USP Compact or a P2000. If I go the compact route, I am leaning towards the 357 sig.

Anyone care to talk me out of it?

Bomber
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:54:04 PM EST
If you haven't already, shoot them both with at least a couple of different loads (and NOT just range ball, either).

The .357 definitely hits harder, but you'll have to decide if it's worth the trade-off in ammo cost, wear-and-tear, and recoil/report.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:00:40 PM EST
.357. I believe this is a better round for defense. Buy a .40 barrel also and use it to practice.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:02:51 PM EST
In full size guns I prefer the 357 Sig and in a small gun I like the 40 better.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:06:52 PM EST
.45 ACP. Nuff said.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 6:10:16 PM EST
<----40S&W.

Cheaper ammo
More available ammo
arguably a better stopper (no, I'm not donning the flamesuit, I'm just walking away..


I love arguing this.....
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:01:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
.45 ACP. Nuff said.



Wrong twice. First, you failed to read the original thread. Second, 10mm owns your .45.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:17:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hal9k:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
.45 ACP. Nuff said.



Wrong twice. First, you failed to read the original thread. Second, 10mm owns your .45.




I agree. If we're going to open up the discussion to other calibers, then I'll say the 10mm owns the 45. With that said and getting back onto topic, I've been shooting a Delta Elite 10mm for years, I am hardly phased by the recoil anymore so I'm not convinced the 357 Sig will bother me to much.

There are some good reasons to get the 40, but wouldn't that be redundant with my 10mm. I do rel;oad which will bring down the cost once I get the dies and the brass.


Bomber
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:29:29 PM EST
Well, then! If you're both a 10mm shooter AND a reloader, I'd say get the .357 and load 'em hot.

I DO think the USP40C is a very well-rounded pistol, but .40 is always just a barrel-swap away, after all.

I might get the chance to shoot a P2000 this weekend. If I do, I'll sound off with any relevant info.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 8:13:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebomber:
There are some good reasons to get the 40, but wouldn't that be redundant with my 10mm. I do rel;oad which will bring down the cost once I get the dies and the brass.



The .40 s&w and 10mm use the same dies (well most manufature's dies are for both)... so all you'd have to do is buy brass (or perhaps trim some 10mm down if you had more time and money than brains).

Though a second set of dies set for the .40 would make it easier to reload both... rather than having to reset your dies all the time.

I've got a .40 and like it, and its a helluva lot cheaper to operate than .357 sig.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 4:37:15 AM EST
You're right about the dies. All you need to do is ratched in the bullet seating die. The point I was making is that the 40 and the 10mm from a practical standpoint are the same chambering. I was just musing that it would be fun to have another gun in a completely different caliber.

Bomber

Hal9k....I look forward to your observations.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 11:55:09 AM EST
my buddy's baby glock in .357 sig (g33?) was ABUSIVE. in line with a snub smith shooting 125gr federals. it was uncomfortable to shoot NEXT to him. muzzle blast was....concussive

my carry gun was a 10mm for a while. my double taps were a thing of beauty. point being, i'm not recoil sensitive.

i would not hesitate to carry a .357 in a bigger gun. i shot a midsize (g33?) and it was no problem.

then there's the walmart factor. you can get .40 anywhere, in a huge variety.

my friend's glock now has a .40 barrell.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 2:21:22 PM EST
Yea I know what you mean. I have a .357 Mag snub nose. It's abusive to shoot. I will only run 38 Special +P thru it. The H&K i'm talking about is their compact version. They also have a sub compact. I wish I know some one with the .357 sig that I could try before taking the plunge.

Bomber
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