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Posted: 4/14/2007 12:31:28 PM EDT
I'm hoping you guys can help me out.  I have a SA 1911a1 mil-spec pistol and am looking for some extra magazines.  There are so many choices out there, so i'm asking what and where you would recommend for magazines that will work properly, but not be overly expensive.

Thanks,
Mark
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 12:33:23 PM EDT
[#1]
I've actually liked the ones from SA the most (the stainless ones).  I've tried Chip McCormick mags but never Wilsons
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 12:48:17 PM EDT
[#2]
For my rock island I have a novak that came with it that I like.

Bought 6 of these, Chip McCormicks, they have been great so far, 500 or so rounds between them.
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/198rdtamawbl.html
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 1:11:10 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
For my rock island I have a novak that came with it that I like.

Bought 6 of these, Chip McCormicks, they have been great so far, 500 or so rounds between them.
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/198rdtamawbl.html



I have similar luck with my Wilson mags. I have 4 of 'em for my two 1911s. They work flawlessly, and having the extra round or so is comforting in this day and age.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 1:36:09 PM EDT
[#4]
I bought some "chip McCormic" mags on e-bay. They work well , but don't drop free from my SA. I don't  want to have to pull out empties, Prefere they just fall out when released.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 2:04:48 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I bought some "chip McCormic" mags on e-bay. They work well , but don't drop free from my SA. I don't  want to have to pull out empties, Prefere they just fall out when released.


Shooter62, I had a similar problem once, although I forget with which brand of magazine.  Turns out my problem was not the mags, but that one of the grips screws was a jillionth of an inch too long, and was sticking into the mag well and contacting the mag.  Check your mags -- if they have a faint scratch line down the side, you may just need to file off a little bit of grip screw.  If not, then yes, the mags are too fat for the mag well.

I have had good luck with most mags.  Wilson, Shooting Star (McCormick), Mag-Pack.  The only ones that don't work reliably for me are the two Mec-Gars I bought recently.  I only bought them because everybody says they are the most reliable, but not for me.  Apparently, I am the only person in the world whose Mec-Gars don't work.  Can't get them to feed even hardball in any of my 1911's.

I have had several Colt magazines break, always in the same place.  There is a square cut at the rear.  The crack always starts in the left corner of the square, and the left feed lip starts to spread wide.  On other mags, the cutout is circular or at least rounded.

I had a Wilson plastic floorplate break once.  One of the little rails where it slides into the mag body started to split off, and I was getting lots of failures to feed.  That was over 20 years ago, though.  I still carry Wilsons a lot, and haven't had problems since.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 3:01:34 PM EDT
[#6]
I have 5 Wilson Combat mags for my SA G.I. 1911.  

The only problem I had was, two mags wouldn't hold the bolt after the last round.  I took them apart and stretched the springs, just a little.  They work perfectly now.  

Stainless Steel and 8 rounds.    

Link Posted: 4/14/2007 3:35:55 PM EDT
[#7]
This may sound real stupid but my S/A runs good with the S/A mags, I see no reason to change. Is there something I'm not seeing? or need to know about ?
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 4:37:06 PM EDT
[#8]
I recommend wilson 47D's or ACT-MAGs.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 4:41:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 4:53:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Wilson Combat.

I don't believe they are overly expensive for the quality they deliver.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 5:13:53 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Tripp Research, Inc. - CobraMag
www.trippresearch.com/feature/images/feeding%20position.jpg


+1

Tripp Research Cobra Mags have treated me VERY well.  I also have Wilsons and ChipsAhoy, they usually work ok but as said before the Wilsons dont always lock the slide, the springs seem weak.  The Chips are hit and miss.  You will notice with a Cobra mag it is a strikingly well built and solid magazine.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 7:08:26 PM EDT
[#12]
The SA mags work good.. they are Metalforms. Might need new springs down the road, but otherwise they are great.

My favorite so far has been my Wilson/Trip hybrid.. works great and always positively engages the slide stop.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 7:23:37 PM EDT
[#13]
I have had good luck with both Chip McCormick power mags and the Wilson 47 mags. The steel followers in the C. McCormick mags tend to beat up the aluminum frames on some pistols(saw some photos here not too long ago). I run the McCormicks in my TRP Operator, and the Wilsons in my Kimber TLE/RL II. I have had zero problems with either.
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 7:33:51 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Wilson Combat.

I don't believe they are overly expensive for the quality they deliver.


+1
Link Posted: 4/14/2007 10:34:07 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I recommend wilson 47D's or ACT-MAGs.


I agree on the 47D's... but the ACT-Mags? I had 2 that the feed lips cracked on within 400rds.
Link Posted: 4/15/2007 10:24:38 AM EDT
[#16]
Lots of people have good luck with the wilsons.  I've had 7(8 rounders) going through one gun for the last three years and will try some tripp's the first chance I get.

They(Wilson's) require constant tuning and inspection.  I shoot uspsa with a custom on a les baer frame and am constantly having to narrow the top of the mag to keep them dropping free.  It's a problem with empties  or partially loaded mags.  

Not a concern so much in uspsa, but when the springs weaken, the follower will not always engage the slide stop.  I've had new Wilson mag springs last less then 6 months on several occasions.  Stretching helps for a little while.

If you have the plastic base plates, throw them away and use the aluminum ones.  Figure the cost of the mags with the upgrade.  If you ever have one of those plastic pads slide forward during a reload, you can get the malfunction from hell, an overinsertion.  Lets just say I've experienced it.  

I'm trying to stay off the "grass is always greener" bus, but Tripp research, here I come.
Link Posted: 4/15/2007 3:02:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I think there are a lot of well-made 1911 magazines available.  I use Chip McCormick Power Mags, Kimber Kim-Pro Tac mags, Wilson 47Ds, Tripp Cobra mags and I just bought 3 Novak/ACT mags.  I just used the 3 Novaks on a shooting course yesterday.  With 250+ rounds fired, there were no malfunctions.

So many magazine choices, so little time...................
Link Posted: 4/15/2007 4:20:27 PM EDT
[#18]
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I bought some "chip McCormic" mags on e-bay. They work well , but don't drop free from my SA. I don't  want to have to pull out empties, Prefere they just fall out when released.


Shooter62, I had a similar problem once, although I forget with which brand of magazine.  Turns out my problem was not the mags, but that one of the grips screws was a jillionth of an inch too long, and was sticking into the mag well and contacting the mag.  Check your mags -- if they have a faint scratch line down the side, you may just need to file off a little bit of grip screw.

I'll be damned...thanks. I took the grips off and the empty mags drop out sweet as can be.
Link Posted: 4/15/2007 6:38:04 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
SNIP

They(Wilson's) require constant tuning and inspection.  I shoot uspsa with a custom on a les baer frame and am constantly having to narrow the top of the mag to keep them dropping free.  It's a problem with empties  or partially loaded mags.  

Not a concern so much in uspsa, but when the springs weaken, the follower will not always engage the slide stop.  I've had new Wilson mag springs last less then 6 months on several occasions.  Stretching helps for a little while.

If you have the plastic base plates, throw them away and use the aluminum ones.  Figure the cost of the mags with the upgrade.  If you ever have one of those plastic pads slide forward during a reload, you can get the malfunction from hell, an overinsertion.  Lets just say I've experienced it.

SNIP


I most certainly do not doubt your experiences...

but they certainly do not parallel mine:  www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=545872
Link Posted: 4/15/2007 9:03:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Metalform flush (no base pad) 7rnders with the round followers.

I use the Metalforms in my carry commanders.

Second choice would be Chip McCormick powermags or Virgil Tripp cobra mags.

Third is Mecgar.

Fourth is ACT.
Link Posted: 4/16/2007 3:51:18 PM EDT
[#21]
I've had the most experience with Wilsons and have nothing but praise for them.

Chip McCormicks have been spotty at best for me -- quite a few feed issues as well as not locking back the slide.

Novaks have been reliable, but I find that they need more regular cleaning than others -- I've been able to jam them up by use.

I just got some Cobra mags and have praise for them so far.  They seem like great mags and work just fine, but I don't have a lot of rounds through them to really definitivelly say yet.
Link Posted: 4/16/2007 4:02:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Tripp Cobra Mags because they have better bullet presentation to the chamber as seen in those pics posted above.  Plus the slide stop catch in the follower of the magazine is made of metal and will not wear off like a Wilson Combats all polymer one will. Spring is a true 8 round mag spring and not a 7 round spring forced to work as an 8 rounder. Compare Wilson and Tripp Springs. If you cant...go to Tripp Research's web page and he has pics posted there.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:55:15 AM EDT
[#23]
I have some McCormick Shooting Star (8 Rounders) that I have been using for almost 20 years.  I cannot even guess the round counts, between 4 and 8 thousand between 6 mags.  Never a problem.  
I also like to use military surplus mag bodies which I re-fit with Pachmayer rounded followers, heavy duty springs, and plasic bump pads.  I had the mags so it was a little project I undertook to see what they would do.  I am happy with them.

Good luck, enjoy the SA.  Mine will be 19 years old this Christmas.

R/
Mike
VA Beach
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 12:48:21 PM EDT
[#24]
Wilson and CMC.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 5:29:47 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
SNIP

They(Wilson's) require constant tuning and inspection.  I shoot uspsa with a custom on a les baer frame and am constantly having to narrow the top of the mag to keep them dropping free.  It's a problem with empties  or partially loaded mags.  

Not a concern so much in uspsa, but when the springs weaken, the follower will not always engage the slide stop.  I've had new Wilson mag springs last less then 6 months on several occasions.  Stretching helps for a little while.

If you have the plastic base plates, throw them away and use the aluminum ones.  Figure the cost of the mags with the upgrade.  If you ever have one of those plastic pads slide forward during a reload, you can get the malfunction from hell, an overinsertion.  Lets just say I've experienced it.

SNIP


I most certainly do not doubt your experiences...

but they certainly do not parallel mine:  www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=545872



Couldn't find/locate your post or thread.  IDPAer's, when I started shooting this gun, 3 years ago, were having the same troubles.  Mags don't drop, and dont engage the slide stop.  It was common practice for the gamers to "mike" their mags and check their springs before every match that counted.  

Understand that my/our mags got a workout with live practice and slide lock reloads with dummies.  Mags were dropped on concrete, stepped on, and just about anything else you can think of.  

In a typical USPSA shoot I'll reload 3 or 4 mags for each stage per match.  Things wear out and require maintenance.  Agreed.  Could it be the Bear frame is a little undersized?  I'd say yes on the mags dropping free if it were just my gun but too many experience it. Springs that have to be replaced 3 times a year is excessive IMO.

I'm not trying to run the Wilson's out of business as I know that there are plenty of shooter that are satisfied with them.  I'm however ready to try something else.

good luck
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 7:33:59 PM EDT
[#26]
simonsay,

Something is going on with the site...I tested the link before I posted it, and it worked.   Now, it doesn't.

I searched the Archives, and it said I only started 13 threads in the last 12 months...that's not true.

Maybe Staff is working on something.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 5:19:03 AM EDT
[#27]
Checkmate industries make excelent magazines.

There is currently a group buy going on at forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=29142

You can get 7 round stainless or blued magazines with tapered or hybrid lips for 6.71 a peice. They arfe also selling 8 round tapered lips for 6.71.

They give you the option of having a removable base, the welded base drilled and tapped, or the standard welded base. This is by far the cheapest i have ever seen the checkmate industries magazines.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 5:55:08 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
This may sound real stupid but my S/A runs good with the S/A mags, I see no reason to change. Is there something I'm not seeing? or need to know about ?


Knock on wood, Cleatus.  Once for getting a functional S/A, and once for getting functional S/A mags.

Shucks!  Most of the S/A kool aid drinkers will even own up to using other mags.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:07:37 AM EDT
[#29]
Dang!

I was looking at the Brownells 1911 mailer and was overwhelmed with all the MAG options.

It used to be Colts, Junk mags, or Wilsons.

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:09:15 PM EDT
[#30]
I must've found a bad batch of Wilsons. My 3 47Ds all FTF the last round of their magazines in both my 1911s (Colt & Kimber), pretty much regardless of bullet profile.

They started out fine, then got weak after only 50-150 rounds through each. From all reports, that's pretty classic for the mag springs weakening.  When I called this winter, at least for me, the lifetime warranty apparently didn't apply to springs.

I'll probably do the Tripp upgrade.

CMC mags have been flawless for me.  Bummer, since I really liked those Wilsons when they worked.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:07:40 AM EDT
[#31]
I use 8 round Wilson mags in my Mil-Spec SA. Have since day one, tired the stock magazine for kicks and it jammed, threw it back in the magazine bin where it will stay. The Wilson mags are excellent and have a lifetime warrenty of thier own. Check the 2nd picture thread on page 6 to see mine!
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:30:23 AM EDT
[#32]
I have a couple of Mec Gar mags for my Mil-spec. Reliable and well made
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:32:05 AM EDT
[#33]
I have six as of now; two USGI VIetnam issue mags, two flush-fit CMC 8 round mags in blued and two CMC Power Mag 8 rounders with the plastic bumper pads.

No issues with the CMCs, however, the USGIs don't drop free; I'll have to work with them once my 1911 comes back from the gunsmith.


Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:55:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Oh - and as far as flush-fit 7-round mags go, I only trust Colt mags.  I used to prefer Metalform and Mec-Gar, but I've had bad problems with samples from both brand.  I've never had a single issue with a Colt-brand mag.  Just my personal experience.
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