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Posted: 7/21/2013 10:57:54 AM EDT
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Replace plunger tube and restake?
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Posted: 7/21/2013 12:25:55 PM EDT
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Replace plunger tube and restake? ^^^ This would be correct repair. To get by you may be able to use some red loctite to hold it in until you replace/restake. |
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Posted: 7/21/2013 12:58:53 PM EDT
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The safety is broken more specificity the detent tube is sticking out to far to allow for the safety to be deactivated . how do o fix this:? EDIT: i have kinda fixed it but how do i keep this from happening again Get a new plunger tube If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you. There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these. I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky. I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube. |
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Posted: 7/21/2013 1:05:50 PM EDT
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OK does anyone know if Sig runs a proprietary plunger tube?
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Posted: 7/21/2013 6:12:51 PM EDT
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Get a new plunger tube If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you. There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these. I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky. I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The safety is broken more specificity the detent tube is sticking out to far to allow for the safety to be deactivated . how do o fix this:? EDIT: i have kinda fixed it but how do i keep this from happening again Get a new plunger tube If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you. There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these. I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky. I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube. thank you very much for the offer but i think a staking tool would be the least of my worries as i know just enough about the 1911 to be a dangerous. |
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Posted: 7/22/2013 2:14:37 AM EDT
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Sig does not use a proprietary plunger tube
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Posted: 7/22/2013 4:54:28 AM EDT
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A temporary fix would be loc-tite and grips that trap the tube to frame...like JB designed it
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Posted: 7/22/2013 4:57:53 AM EDT
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its a sig call customer service
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Posted: 7/22/2013 7:44:37 AM EDT
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Is the plunger tube loose or did the detent just override the safety lever?
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Posted: 7/22/2013 5:11:35 PM EDT
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Is the plunger tube loose or did the detent just override the safety lever? I think both the plunger tube came loose and the detent is pushing out farther then it should |
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Posted: 7/22/2013 7:14:06 PM EDT
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its a sig call customer service That is true, but why lose the weapon for a week or two when this can be properly fixed for $20 and about 30 minutes time? |
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Posted: 7/22/2013 7:35:50 PM EDT
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I dont want to send it back home to sig i know they will take care of me' but im on a hot streak in IDPA and i don't want to mess that up i want it fixed fast and local
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:06:53 AM EDT
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It is a rather easy fix........
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:32:33 AM EDT
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Replace plunger tube and restake? This would be my answer also...It's not a hard fix. Any decent gunsmith in your area can restake it for you if you don't have the tool to do it. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 5:12:30 AM EDT
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If you're going to hang around 1911's you'll need one (again, I suppose) I use this one ,it's out of stock but works like a champ!:
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/staking-tools/plunger-tube-staking-tool-prod9489.aspx |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:17:18 PM EDT
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I had a crazy idea - clamp it down then put a tack weld on each leg. Grind off the excess and that is a plunger tube that will not loosen again. In case it had to be removed you could grind out the weldment with a rotary tool, but that would be a very rare case. As an alternate, again clamp it and silver-solder (braze) it at each leg. This staking crap is for the birds. I've tried it and then paid a professional to do it again and the *%&#% thing is still just a little loose. However, I admit that when it's done right at the factory you rarely if ever have any trouble with it. My Colts and USGI, no problem.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:34:03 PM EDT
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... to take a welder to the frame of a pistol and then grind it down flush..???? SERIOUSLY that's what you'd recommend as a course of action...? You're right....crazy idea.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 6:57:44 PM EDT
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Is there visible physical damage?
If not, try spraying a shitload of a rust-reducing oil (Militech-1 or WD-40) into the plunger tube and let it sit. After a while, take off the grips and try to remove the safety from the frame. I've recently had the plungers and plunger spring rust significantly, and within a period of about a week the whole thing was so filled with rust that I couldn't get the safety to disengage. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:02:13 AM EDT
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I dont want to send it back home to sig i know they will take care of me' but im on a hot streak in IDPA and i don't want to mess that up i want it fixed fast and local So borrow a pistol from a friend while your Sig is being fixed, CORRECTLY, at the factory. This way your gun will be in good hands, you can continue your winning-streak, albeit with a borrowed gun(as long as it isn't a Glock..  ..) and everything will be right in the world.
How is this a bad idea? |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 12:20:16 PM EDT
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I had a crazy idea - clamp it down then put a tack weld on each leg. Grind off the excess and that is a plunger tube that will not loosen again. In case it had to be removed you could grind out the weldment with a rotary tool, but that would be a very rare case. As an alternate, again clamp it and silver-solder (braze) it at each leg. This staking crap is for the birds. I've tried it and then paid a professional to do it again and the *%&#% thing is still just a little loose. However, I admit that when it's done right at the factory you rarely if ever have any trouble with it. My Colts and USGI, no problem. Go look up Ned Christiansen's plunger tube and have a good laugh. It looks like one of those Darwin fish emblems. 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 1:05:14 PM EDT
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... to take a welder to the frame of a pistol and then grind it down flush..???? SERIOUSLY that's what you'd recommend as a course of action...? You're right....crazy idea. 1911 receivers are not hardened - the heat from two small hits should not affect it, but I of course would defer to a pistol smith who thought otherwise. The 'grinding' would be done with a small file or Dremel, and I fail to see what problem that would cause. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 4:04:46 PM EDT
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(significant) chance of ruining a receiver when you need a $30 tool? Hey whatever floats your boat, friend.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 4:16:36 PM EDT
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There might be some local smiths that can do it for you. Where you at in WI?
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Posted: 7/24/2013 4:19:56 PM EDT
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Pretty interesting thread here:
Plunger tube staking Check out the pictures in the last link in the post. Also some decent discussion on how to fix and prevent it from happening again. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 4:53:08 PM EDT
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There might be some local smiths that can do it for you. Where you at in WI? 45 miles south and to the west of greenbay |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:41:12 AM EDT
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I was hoping you'd say something closer to mke. Because I know an ex Marine armorer who would probably do it in a rather timely manner.
We need a database of good gunsmiths. |
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