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Posted: 7/21/2013 10:43:14 AM EDT
The safety is broken more specificity the detent tube is sticking out to far to allow for the safety to be deactivated . how do o fix this:?
EDIT: i have kinda fixed it but how do i keep this from happening again
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 10:57:54 AM EDT
Replace plunger tube and restake?
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 12:25:55 PM EDT
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^^^ This would be correct repair.

To get by you may be able to use some red loctite to hold it in until you replace/restake.
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 12:58:53 PM EDT
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The safety is broken more specificity the detent tube is sticking out to far to allow for the safety to be deactivated . how do o fix this:?
EDIT: i have kinda fixed it but how do i keep this from happening again
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Get a new plunger tube
If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you.
There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these.

I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky.
I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube.
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 1:05:50 PM EDT
OK does anyone know if Sig runs a proprietary plunger tube?
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 6:12:51 PM EDT
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Get a new plunger tube
If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you.
There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these.

I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky.
I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube.
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The safety is broken more specificity the detent tube is sticking out to far to allow for the safety to be deactivated . how do o fix this:?
EDIT: i have kinda fixed it but how do i keep this from happening again



Get a new plunger tube
If you need a staking tool, I have one I can loan you.
There are several good instructional videos on how to stake these.

I have tried to re-stake them in the past, they always loosened up very quicky.
I would suggest a Brown, Wilson, NightHawk or Colt plunger tube.

thank you very much for the offer but i think a staking tool would be the least of my worries  as i know just enough about the 1911 to be a dangerous.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 2:14:37 AM EDT
Sig does not use a proprietary plunger tube
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 4:54:28 AM EDT
A temporary fix would be loc-tite and grips that trap the tube to frame...like JB designed it
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 4:57:53 AM EDT
its a sig call customer service
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 7:44:37 AM EDT
Is the plunger tube loose or did the detent just override the safety lever?
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 5:11:35 PM EDT
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I think both the plunger tube came loose and the detent  is pushing out farther then it should
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 7:14:06 PM EDT
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That is true, but why lose the weapon for a week or two when this can be properly
fixed for $20 and about 30 minutes time?
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 7:35:50 PM EDT
I dont want to send it back home to sig i know they will take care of me' but im on a hot streak in IDPA and i don't want to mess that up i want it fixed fast and local
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 2:06:53 AM EDT
It is a rather easy fix........
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 3:32:33 AM EDT
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This would be my answer also...It's not a hard fix.  Any decent gunsmith in your area can restake it for you if you don't have the tool to do it.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 5:12:30 AM EDT
If you're going to hang around 1911's you'll need one (again, I suppose) I use this one ,it's out of stock but works like a champ!:

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/staking-tools/plunger-tube-staking-tool-prod9489.aspx

Link Posted: 7/23/2013 3:17:18 PM EDT
I had a crazy idea - clamp it down then put a tack weld on each leg. Grind off the excess and that is a plunger tube that will not loosen again. In case it had to be removed you could grind out the weldment with a rotary tool, but that would be a very rare case. As an alternate, again clamp it and silver-solder (braze) it at each leg. This staking crap is for the birds. I've tried it and then paid a professional to do it again and the *%&#% thing is still just a little loose. However, I admit that when it's done right at the factory you rarely if ever have any trouble with it. My Colts and USGI, no problem.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 3:34:03 PM EDT
... to take a welder to the frame of a pistol and then grind it down flush..???? SERIOUSLY that's what you'd recommend as a course of action...? You're right....crazy idea.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 6:57:44 PM EDT
Is there visible physical damage?

If not, try spraying a shitload of a rust-reducing oil (Militech-1 or WD-40) into the plunger tube and let it sit. After a while, take off the grips and try to remove the safety from the frame.

I've recently had the plungers and plunger spring rust significantly, and within a period of about a week the whole thing was so filled with rust that I couldn't get the safety to disengage.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 5:02:13 AM EDT
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So borrow a pistol from a friend while your Sig is being fixed, CORRECTLY, at the factory. This way your gun will be in good hands, you can continue your winning-streak, albeit with a borrowed gun(as long as it isn't a Glock....) and everything will be right in the world.

How is this a bad idea?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:20:16 PM EDT
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I had a crazy idea - clamp it down then put a tack weld on each leg. Grind off the excess and that is a plunger tube that will not loosen again. In case it had to be removed you could grind out the weldment with a rotary tool, but that would be a very rare case. As an alternate, again clamp it and silver-solder (braze) it at each leg. This staking crap is for the birds. I've tried it and then paid a professional to do it again and the *%&#% thing is still just a little loose. However, I admit that when it's done right at the factory you rarely if ever have any trouble with it. My Colts and USGI, no problem.
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Go look up Ned Christiansen's plunger tube and have a good laugh.  

It looks like one of those Darwin fish emblems.  
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:05:14 PM EDT
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1911 receivers are not hardened - the heat from two small hits should not affect it, but I of course would defer to a pistol smith who thought otherwise. The 'grinding' would be done with a small file or Dremel, and I fail to see what problem that would cause.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 4:04:46 PM EDT
(significant) chance of ruining a receiver when you need a $30 tool? Hey whatever floats your boat, friend.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 4:16:36 PM EDT
There might be some local smiths that can do it for you.  Where you at in WI?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 4:19:56 PM EDT
Pretty interesting thread here:

Plunger tube staking

Check out the pictures in the last link in the post.  Also some decent discussion on how to fix and prevent it from happening again.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 4:53:08 PM EDT
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45 miles south and to the west of greenbay
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:41:12 AM EDT
I was hoping you'd say something closer to mke.  Because I know an ex Marine armorer who would probably do it in a rather timely manner.  

We need a database of good gunsmiths.
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