

Originally Posted By Just10mm: Forged slide and frame tool steel internals checked front strap crowned stainless steel barrel nitride finish Nice sights Even if you need to tweak it a bit and slick it up you are still way ahead money wise. Looks to be a hell of a value! It’s got a lot more going for it than the raider for not much more money. View Quote It really does look like a nice setup for little money and hopefully will require very little tweeks to make it what I like my 1911's to be..... I succumbed and purchased one this morning.... I kept telling myself I really don't NEED one, I have other 1911's that fit the bill, sort of.... I lost my battle ![]() |
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Originally Posted By seand1111: It really does look like a nice setup for little money and hopefully will require very little tweeks to make it what I like my 1911's to be..... I succumbed and purchased one this morning.... I kept telling myself I really don't NEED one, I have other 1911's that fit the bill, sort of.... I lost my battle ![]() View Quote I lost the same battle! I kept trying to find some negative reviews and there are none. There is a video of it on a ransom rest shooting 3/4” groups with factory ammo. I don’t think it’s going to need much. I’ll probably toss in some ISMI springs and a Colt sear spring I have laying around and see where it’s at. If it passes the 10-8 extractor test I won’t mess with it, if not I’ll fit an EGW extractor. Going to keep this one simple (or at least that’s what I tell myself). ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: Forged slide and frame tool steel internals checked front strap crowned stainless steel barrel nitride finish Nice sights Even if you need to tweak it a bit and slick it up you are still way ahead money wise. Looks to be a hell of a value! It's got a lot more going for it than the raider for not much more money. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dunderway: Cool that it's nitride. I assumed it was some form of spray and bake finish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dunderway: Originally Posted By Just10mm: Forged slide and frame tool steel internals checked front strap crowned stainless steel barrel nitride finish Nice sights Even if you need to tweak it a bit and slick it up you are still way ahead money wise. Looks to be a hell of a value! It's got a lot more going for it than the raider for not much more money. That’s one of the reasons I was really drawn to it. I’m not a huge fan of painted on finishes, to include cerakote. I much prefer metal treatment type finishes like nitride or park for steel and anodizing for aluminum. |
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is Nitride the same as Tinnifer?
Frame: Forged Carbon Steel, Full-Size Slide: Forged Carbon Steel, Government Length Caliber: .45ACP Barrel: 5" 416SS Match Grade Barrel, Crowned Internals: Colt® 70 Series Sights: LPA Bomar Adj. Rear/Brass Bead Front Grips: Engraved Walnut Finish: QPQ Tennifer® Weight: 2lb 7oz that's from this thread and was confirmed by SDS that its a Tennifer finish..... This is the same finish as Glocks? I have not done research... its too early in the day for that.... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/MAC-JSOC-45-Finish-Tennifer-on-all-parts-or-just-the-frame-and-slide-/57-209945/ |
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Originally Posted By seand1111: is Nitride the same as Tinnifer? Frame: Forged Carbon Steel, Full-Size Slide: Forged Carbon Steel, Government Length Caliber: .45ACP Barrel: 5" 416SS Match Grade Barrel, Crowned Internals: Colt® 70 Series Sights: LPA Bomar Adj. Rear/Brass Bead Front Grips: Engraved Walnut Finish: QPQ Tennifer® Weight: 2lb 7oz that's from this thread and was confirmed by SDS that its a Tennifer finish..... This is the same finish as Glocks? I have not done research... its too early in the day for that.... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/MAC-JSOC-45-Finish-Tennifer-on-all-parts-or-just-the-frame-and-slide-/57-209945/ View Quote QPQ (Quench, Polish, Quench)Tennifer is just a brand name for a nitride finish. Melonite, QPQ, Tennifer, salt bath nitride are all nitride metal treatments as opposed to spray on coatings like Cerakote. |
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: QPQ (Quench, Polish, Quench)Tennifer is just a brand name for a nitride finish. Melonite, QPQ, Tennifer, salt bath nitride are all nitride metal treatments as opposed to spray on coatings like Cerakote. View Quote I was just reading all of that online. Good info to know now. |
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Thanks for the report and picture. I’m really excited for mine. I’ve said it before, but from a 1911 newbie perspective, this seems to be a fantastic deal. I’ve been eyeing various Tisas models for a few months, and features vs price, this seems to be the best value in the lineup.
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"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."
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Originally Posted By HD2006: Thanks for the report and picture. I'm really excited for mine. I've said it before, but from a 1911 newbie perspective, this seems to be a fantastic deal. I've been eyeing various Tisas models for a few months, and features vs price, this seems to be the best value in the lineup. View Quote You could do a lot worse than Tisas to get your 1911 addiction started. I actually bought three this month! I started with a 9mm Carry model, then got a 9mm Tank Commander, then finally this MAC JSOC. The jury is still out until I get a range session in with them, but so far I'm super pleased. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: Glad it helped. You could do a lot worse than Tisas to get your 1911 addiction started. I actually bought three this month! I started with a 9mm Carry model, then got a 9mm Tank Commander, then finally this MAC JSOC. The jury is still out until I get a range session in with them, but so far I'm super pleased. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By HD2006: Thanks for the report and picture. I'm really excited for mine. I've said it before, but from a 1911 newbie perspective, this seems to be a fantastic deal. I've been eyeing various Tisas models for a few months, and features vs price, this seems to be the best value in the lineup. You could do a lot worse than Tisas to get your 1911 addiction started. I actually bought three this month! I started with a 9mm Carry model, then got a 9mm Tank Commander, then finally this MAC JSOC. The jury is still out until I get a range session in with them, but so far I'm super pleased. I have a feeling this won’t be the only one. I’m eyeing a 1911A1 US Army, B45R Duty, Raider, and B9R Carry to add to the collection. |
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I've been eyeing the 9mm Tank Commander, but they are working on an aluminum frame version called the Aviator. I might wait for that.
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Originally Posted By HD2006: I have a feeling this won’t be the only one. I’m eyeing a 1911A1 US Army, B45R Duty, Raider, and B9R Carry to add to the collection. View Quote They have a tendency to multiply quickly. My 1911 collection started off many many moons ago with a simple cheap RIA to see if I liked the platform. I did, and that gun has since become my testbed for making 1911 modifications. After that it was my TRP Operator, a couple of Kimber's (long gone), a few Colts (all but 1 gone), then i kinda stepped away from the platform for a bit. Till the Tisas caught my eye after reading so many positive reviews about them. Bought my first Tisas, the Carry SS45, then a Stingray B9BA, then the 1911A1, and now waiting for the MAC JSOC. They really are a bangin deal for the $$, hence why they can multiply so quickly. |
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Originally Posted By sgtlmj: I've been eyeing the 9mm Tank Commander, but they are working on an aluminum frame version called the Aviator. I might wait for that. View Quote I just got a 9mm Tank Commander and it's a pretty decent clone of the 1970's-80's Colt Combat Commander (steel frame). If Tisas makes one exactly like that but with an aluminum frame, it would be an excellent clone of the original Colt Commander (later named the Colt Lightweight Commander). |
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Oh god... burn it! Knife-MAC is corny as hell. They are on a wrong-path on the US side, but I must say that Turkey is nailing it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Originally Posted By dmk0210: They also give you a cool MAC branded cleaning mat with it. ![]() Oh god... burn it! Knife-MAC is corny as hell. They are on a wrong-path on the US side, but I must say that Turkey is nailing it. You know what they say about opinions... ![]() |
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"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."
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^ Looks nice!
I was also considering some wrap around Pachmayrs for that retro vibe. I just really like the OEM grips though. |
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I’m really hoping they do a MEU-SOC replica!!!!! I’ll be all over that one !!!
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every time I open this thread it gets better.
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
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Either I’m confused, or there is a lot of confusion in this thread.
As far as I can tell, the MAC 1911 has nothing to do with Tisas. It looks like someone bought the old Military Armament Corporation (that used to make MAC-10’s) and is now operating out of Tennessee. They offer a few shotgun clones, and this 1911. MAC is the company that manufacturers this 1911. I’m not sure why everyone says this is from Tisas. Am I missing something? MAC website |
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MAC is the company that imports these shotguns and 1911s but not the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted By OSU_Buckeyes: Either I’m confused, or there is a lot of confusion in this thread. As far as I can tell, the MAC 1911 has nothing to do with Tisas. It looks like someone bought the old Military Armament Corporation (that used to make MAC-10’s) and is now operating out of Tennessee. They offer a few shotgun clones, and this 1911. MAC is the company that manufacturers this 1911. I’m not sure why everyone says this is from Tisas. Am I missing something? MAC website View Quote MAC and SDS have the same address in Tn. |
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Originally Posted By OSU_Buckeyes: That makes sense. So Tisas manufacturers them in Turkey, then MAC imports them? View Quote The owners manual for my Tisas 1911s and the one that came with my MAC JSOC have the exact same warranty, word for word and the same exact contact info. Much of the text is exactly the same as well. The MAC JSOC is actually a Tisas 1911 Match 45 finished differently and with the rear sight mount modified: https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-match-45/ (plus a few other differences: different ambi safety, vertical rear slide serrations, no forward slide serrations, different grips and different engraving) ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: That is correct. Tisas 1911s are sold in the US under the names Tisas, SDS, and MAC. https://sdsimports.com/about-sds-imports/ The owners manual for my Tisas 1911s and the one that came with my MAC JSOC have the exact same warranty, word for word and the same exact contact info. Much of the text is exactly the same as well. The MAC JSOC is actually a Tisas 1911 Match 45 finished differently and with the rear sight mount modified: https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-match-45/ (plus a few other differences: different ambi safety, vertical rear slide serrations, no forward slide serrations, different grips and different engraving) https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/149/1089/Tisas_10100511_Right__23912.1686240770.jpg https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/197/984/MAC_10100536_Right__10112.1686240782.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By OSU_Buckeyes: That makes sense. So Tisas manufacturers them in Turkey, then MAC imports them? The owners manual for my Tisas 1911s and the one that came with my MAC JSOC have the exact same warranty, word for word and the same exact contact info. Much of the text is exactly the same as well. The MAC JSOC is actually a Tisas 1911 Match 45 finished differently and with the rear sight mount modified: https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-match-45/ (plus a few other differences: different ambi safety, vertical rear slide serrations, no forward slide serrations, different grips and different engraving) https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/149/1089/Tisas_10100511_Right__23912.1686240770.jpg https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/197/984/MAC_10100536_Right__10112.1686240782.jpg SDS Imports is the importer. Tisas is the 1911 manufacturer. MAC and Tisas are both brands under the SDS Imports umbrella. I confirmed that the MAC JSOC is manufactured by Tisas in a different thread. As posted above, the JSOC appears to be an offshoot of the Tisas Match. |
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Virgin slide is still the most appropriate, but I could tolerate the Doodie Burd Match engraving on the JSOC more easily than the Knife MAC logo + three line engraving.
At least you wouldn't see it in the holster... |
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Virgin slide is still the most appropriate, ... View Quote However, for $700 forget about the clone aspect and just consider it a nice low cost blaster / range toy. It's got a nice finish, nice front and rear checkering, great sights, great trigger with adjustable overtravel, a good magwell, and a supposedly match barrel with a nice target crown. The gun really feels good in the hand. |
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One thing of note:
This sight arrangement might not fit with some holsters. If you have a favorite holster you planned on using you might want to compare it to the pics to save some possible disappointment. |
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Virgin slide is still the most appropriate, but I could tolerate the Doodie Burd Match engraving on the JSOC more easily than the Knife MAC logo + three line engraving. At least you wouldn't see it in the holster... View Quote So Kalashnikev101, what do you think about the markings on the MAC JSOC? I dont think youve made it clear yet! |
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911: So Kalashnikev101, what do you think about the markings on the MAC JSOC? I dont think youve made it clear yet! View Quote Thinking further.... it's either the perfect time to grab a Raider NOW- before it goes over to the knife-MAC brand and gets the cartoon treatment OR, PERHAPS the worst time to buy a JSOC, because they may come to their senses and improve their product while saving manufacturing operations and setup time. High quality clones, with clone-correct or no markings, and a little Knife-MAC medallion on the grips (that we could pop out) would be ideal. |
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Picked mine up today at lunch. Didn’t have much time to mess with it. Will post pictures later.
Initial impressions are good. I’m brand new to 1911’s, but looking it over it seemed very nice. The guy at the FFL really liked it as well. The logo grips really grew on me, I actually sort of like them and will probably leave them on. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By HD2006: Picked mine up today at lunch. Didn't have much time to mess with it. Will post pictures later. Initial impressions are good. I'm brand new to 1911's, but looking it over it seemed very nice. The guy at the FFL really liked it as well. The logo grips really grew on me, I actually sort of like them and will probably leave them on. ![]() View Quote I put a little blue Loctite on the set screw, then adjusted it. Tighten it until it is just too short where it won't trip the hammer, then back it off about half a turn. You'll have a super short trigger reset. It's pretty sweet. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: Don't forget it has an overtravel adjustment screw on the trigger too. If you lock the slide back and pull the trigger, you can see where the set screw stops how far the trigger can be pressed. I put a little blue Loctite on the set screw, then adjusted it. Tighten it until it is just too short where it won't trip the hammer, then back it off about half a turn. You'll have a super short trigger reset. It's pretty sweet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By HD2006: Picked mine up today at lunch. Didn't have much time to mess with it. Will post pictures later. Initial impressions are good. I'm brand new to 1911's, but looking it over it seemed very nice. The guy at the FFL really liked it as well. The logo grips really grew on me, I actually sort of like them and will probably leave them on. ![]() I put a little blue Loctite on the set screw, then adjusted it. Tighten it until it is just too short where it won't trip the hammer, then back it off about half a turn. You'll have a super short trigger reset. It's pretty sweet. That’s for the tip, I’ll do that! |
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Originally Posted By Larrys1911: So Kalashnikev101, what do you think about the markings on the MAC JSOC? I dont think youve made it clear yet! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Larrys1911: Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Virgin slide is still the most appropriate, but I could tolerate the Doodie Burd Match engraving on the JSOC more easily than the Knife MAC logo + three line engraving. At least you wouldn't see it in the holster... So Kalashnikev101, what do you think about the markings on the MAC JSOC? I dont think youve made it clear yet! ![]() |
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"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."
Song dynasty poet |
Originally Posted By HD2006: SDS Imports is the importer. Tisas is the 1911 manufacturer. MAC and Tisas are both brands under the SDS Imports umbrella. I confirmed that the MAC JSOC is manufactured by Tisas in a different thread. As posted above, the JSOC appears to be an offshoot of the Tisas Match. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HD2006: Originally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By OSU_Buckeyes: That makes sense. So Tisas manufacturers them in Turkey, then MAC imports them? The owners manual for my Tisas 1911s and the one that came with my MAC JSOC have the exact same warranty, word for word and the same exact contact info. Much of the text is exactly the same as well. The MAC JSOC is actually a Tisas 1911 Match 45 finished differently and with the rear sight mount modified: https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-match-45/ (plus a few other differences: different ambi safety, vertical rear slide serrations, no forward slide serrations, different grips and different engraving) https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/149/1089/Tisas_10100511_Right__23912.1686240770.jpg https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3vxd7ju6xz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/197/984/MAC_10100536_Right__10112.1686240782.jpg SDS Imports is the importer. Tisas is the 1911 manufacturer. MAC and Tisas are both brands under the SDS Imports umbrella. I confirmed that the MAC JSOC is manufactured by Tisas in a different thread. As posted above, the JSOC appears to be an offshoot of the Tisas Match. I’ll try to post pic’s tomorrow. The underside of the dust cover is marked Tisas on these. |
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View Quote https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/ |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: The Stakeout is closer. Just add the trigger and safety from the Duty and a set of Pachmayr grips. https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/ View Quote The feature set is appealing, but "THE STAKEOUT!" billboarded on the slide makes it a NO GO. Reworking the GI is a more tasteful option, and more correct. |
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: The feature set is appealing, but "THE STAKEOUT!" billboarded on the slide makes it a NO GO. Reworking the GI is a more tasteful option, and more correct. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Originally Posted By dmk0210: The Stakeout is closer. Just add the trigger and safety from the Duty and a set of Pachmayr grips. https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/ The feature set is appealing, but "THE STAKEOUT!" billboarded on the slide makes it a NO GO. Reworking the GI is a more tasteful option, and more correct. I think a “Service Special” with a black finish and without the logo would be close enough to get my money. Parked/gray just doesn’t do it for me on a meu-soc. |
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