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Posted: 9/22/2020 9:09:38 PM EDT
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Mine is almost exactly like that one!!!



Here I was building mine to be similar to Danish P320 so now my M18 looks like this!
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I'm not sure the pictured one is anything like kit in the article.

The kit is issued with a black grip and 15rd mags so I'm wondering if it's an X-Compact grip. It also says nothing about the safety, and that's not a "user level" change.

They're have been a few configurations SIG has floated to USSOCOM as an "MHS SOPMOD" in both full size and carry configurations. I'm making the assumption that the pictured configuration is another one, but not the one the article mentions.

Here are the other "MHS SOPMOD" pictures that have been floating around.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/Sig_Mil_03-958x639-1603540.jpg
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/98D429C0-965F-4F38-87FB-358C477A6CCD-1603541.jpg

Judging by the wording, this is something slightly different.
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My guess is that it is the X Carry (but why black?? Must be wrong hopefully) as the X Compact dust cover / pic rail would not sit flush with the M18 slide. But onto the important question and that is who makes the RMR adapter???

ETA: WTF??? No safety??? Dammit I cut the safety notch in mine
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Ok I went back and read the part about the 15 round magazines... that seems a little dumb if that is the only option. Great for concealed though.
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Ok I went back and read the part about the 15 round magazines... that seems a little dumb if that is the only option. Great for concealed though.
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Still works with 17rd, 21rd, etc, obviously.  Same principle behind the G19 within USSOCOM
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Ok, so a safety delete is included in the kit too?

I kinda like that setup. Almost feels like I need another M18 to screw around with.

Slide looks out of battery
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Ok, so a safety delete is included in the kit too?

I kinda like that setup. Almost feels like I need another M18 to screw around with.

Slide looks out of battery


Correct, no safety.  Yeah, it is OOB
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It’s just stupid to think the military is ever going to actually utilize all the gimmicky “modularity” features of the P320. They should’ve bought Glocks and been done with it. /Sarc

OH wait this is a tech thread...

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That is a very technically intriguing firearm.

Link Posted: 9/28/2020 4:51:33 AM EDT
It wouldn't surprise me if Sig dumped the original grips. At this point everyone wants either the X-Series grips or the WC grips. I liked the X series grips until I got the WC grip. THAT grip should be the he standard issue grip.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Sig dumped the original grips. At this point everyone wants either the X-Series grips or the WC grips. I liked the X series grips until I got the WC grip. THAT grip should be the he standard issue grip.
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I like the x grips. But I prefer the regular.
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Flat trigger?


I didn't realize how easy the trigger swap was.
I already had notched out the grip for the safety. But where is the safety elimination coming from?

The x grips are not comfortably with the safety
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What about the magwell?
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They mean the integrated flare of the polymer inside the grip module itself, not a secondary piece that gets attached
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Video says with or without manual safety, when discussing the X grips.

Seems too many Optional choices to nail down what exactly the m18X is, for now?
Be interesting to see what Sig will market as the m17/18X line.
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Mine is almost exactly like that one!!!

https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/img_3779.jpg

Here I was building mine to be similar to Danish P320 so now my M18 looks like this!
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@coregon this video someone posted in the Danish P320 thread seems to indicate there are multiple variants of the "M18X"

Both the FDE X-Carry pictured in the article, and the black X-Compact kit. Is this correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5zoqgBoeQ
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a “family” of guns - some already out there with SMU’s.
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Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a “family” of guns - some already out there with SMU’s.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".




I love pissing off Glock fanboyz!

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Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a “family” of guns - some already out there with SMU’s.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.
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I really really want to see what those guns actually are.
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I really really want to see what those guns actually are.


My guess is a P320 X Full Size Pro (short dust cover) with a DPP.
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The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.



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That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0900a-1591368.jpg


Yep, it was yours I saw.  I'd be willing to bet it didn't ship from Sig with a small grip installed, and the unit swapped that on there for the end user.  Its only a single data point, but someone out there actually used the various grip modules provided.

The internet swore up and down that would never happen and the modularity was a waste of money


Those are cool handguns to have in the collection.  I really missed out by not buying one when they were released.
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See my comments above about SMU's already fielding unit spec'd guns
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Yep, it was yours I saw.  I'd be willing to bet it didn't ship from Sig with a small grip installed, and the unit swapped that on there for the end user.  Its only a single data point, but someone out there actually used the various grip modules provided.

The internet swore up and down that would never happen and the modularity was a waste of money


Those are cool handguns to have in the collection.  I really missed out by not buying one when they were released.
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0900a-1591368.jpg


Yep, it was yours I saw.  I'd be willing to bet it didn't ship from Sig with a small grip installed, and the unit swapped that on there for the end user.  Its only a single data point, but someone out there actually used the various grip modules provided.

The internet swore up and down that would never happen and the modularity was a waste of money


Those are cool handguns to have in the collection.  I really missed out by not buying one when they were released.


my Surplus gun came with a well used Large grip module on it.
Link Posted: 10/9/2020 10:12:43 PM EDT
What frame is the best for concealed carry if the stock frame is too big?
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That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0900a-1591368.jpg


I wonder if the PVD finish on the actual mil guns is thicker or a different formula than what is found on the civilian M17/M18. One of my M18s is showing a lot of holster wear. Even leather vice jaws wear the finish on it is so thin.
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I wonder if the PVD finish on the actual mil guns is thicker or a different formula than what is found on the civilian M17/M18. One of my M18s is showing a lot of holster wear. Even leather vice jaws wear the finish on it is so thin.
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0900a-1591368.jpg


I wonder if the PVD finish on the actual mil guns is thicker or a different formula than what is found on the civilian M17/M18. One of my M18s is showing a lot of holster wear. Even leather vice jaws wear the finish on it is so thin.


Troy Coyote Tan cerakote is an option for refinishing.
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Cerakote on the left, factory finish on the right.
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Troy Coyote Tan cerakote is an option for refinishing.
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@jackal-FnM

Who did your cerakote?
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Who did your cerakote?
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Troy Coyote Tan cerakote is an option for refinishing.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/457660/3FC6C96F-EAE9-4D9D-BD0E-66360CD95A69_jpe-1628675.JPG

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@jackal-FnM

Who did your cerakote?


Area 15 in Mesa, AZ
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I wonder if the PVD finish on the actual mil guns is thicker or a different formula than what is found on the civilian M17/M18. One of my M18s is showing a lot of holster wear. Even leather vice jaws wear the finish on it is so thin.
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There are multiples, yes.  Think of M17X/M18X as a "family" of guns - some already out there with SMU's.

Love. This.

I was assured multiple times over by the internet that "those units who chose their own guns would never choose the P320 MHS family" and "the military will never utilize such pointless and gimmicky modularity".


The redemption feels good

I saw on this site someone got a surplus M17 that had a fairly well used size small grip on it.  That tells me the big army was using the various grip modules as well, another thing GD said would never happen.

That may have been mine. I'm still waiting on FOIA, but according to someone here who looked it up, it was assigned to D Co., 1/506th INF.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0896a-1591365.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/img_0900a-1591368.jpg


I wonder if the PVD finish on the actual mil guns is thicker or a different formula than what is found on the civilian M17/M18. One of my M18s is showing a lot of holster wear. Even leather vice jaws wear the finish on it is so thin.


I have a civilian P320-M17, a commemorative M17, and an actual army issued “surplus” M17.

The civilian gun had the most consistent color and finish, slightly lighter than the other 2. It has some minor holster wear from 2 classes and 1 USPSA match I used it in.

The commemorative and army issued gun are both slightly darker but less uniform in color. The commemorative lives in a show case on a bookshelf in my office so the finish is unmarred. The Army issued gun has TONs of holster wear. Worse than my civilian gun that I put The miles on. I think they all look cool, but they’re guns and it’s not about how they look.

I have another SIG coyote PVD “pro” slide actually on my gun now. That slide’s finish seems to be holding up better. It’s uniform in color and slightly darker than my civilian M17 but not as dark as the other 2.
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Intresting. Thanks for the info.
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@Coregon - Two questions, 1. How many different SMU variants are you currently aware of and are there details/pics you can share of more of them, and 2. Can you start a thread in GD on this subject so that we can all bask in the delicious tears of unfathomable sadness from the Gaston gang?
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@Coregon - Two questions, 1. How many different SMU variants are you currently aware of and are there details/pics you can share of more of them, and 2. Can you start a thread in GD on this subject so that we can all bask in the delicious tears of unfathomable sadness from the Gaston gang?
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See my comments above about SMU's already fielding unit spec'd guns


@Coregon - Two questions, 1. How many different SMU variants are you currently aware of and are there details/pics you can share of more of them, and 2. Can you start a thread in GD on this subject so that we can all bask in the delicious tears of unfathomable sadness from the Gaston gang?


I tried that in GD. Had a few bites, but not many takers. LOL

Here is the thread
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@Coregon - Two questions, 1. How many different SMU variants are you currently aware of and are there details/pics you can share of more of them, and 2. Can you start a thread in GD on this subject so that we can all bask in the delicious tears of unfathomable sadness from the Gaston gang?
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See my comments above about SMU's already fielding unit spec'd guns


@Coregon - Two questions, 1. How many different SMU variants are you currently aware of and are there details/pics you can share of more of them, and 2. Can you start a thread in GD on this subject so that we can all bask in the delicious tears of unfathomable sadness from the Gaston gang?


1)

2) haha
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 11:26:38 AM EDT
Any word if SIG will be offering a M18 Commemorative?
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I think it’s time we have a dedicated “P320 in the military” thread in this subforum - Oh look, I just made one
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfT2miPvgnw



I am a Glock guy, who has purchased two stripped FCUs, and is looking for build ideas. That's definitely going to be one of them.
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