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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:20:08 AM EDT
Having read so many posts about women problems (stolen money, cheating, etc.), I'm curious as to whether some of you look back to when you first met your significant other and noticed any clues to their behaviour. Did you previously catch them lying? "borrowing" your things? Any inconsistencies in behaviour?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:50:42 AM EDT
When you have to start dealing to support your habit.....that might be a clue. But that's all right, I got the boy, the house, the car. 20 years later and she and new hubby lost their house and have to rent a sh#*hole throwing $1200.00 out the window every month. Life has it's rewards.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:16:55 AM EDT
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it.

I thought that my ex-wife and I saw eye to eye on the direction our life together was going to go. We had a long "heart to heart" before I proposed and a few of them after. Didn't make one bit of difference. Once she accepted my proposal NOTHING that I wanted mattered, it was all about "compromise" (ie: I had to "compromise" to accept what *she* wanted) and once child #2 was born she "just wasn't happy anymore". Ergo, *I* must be the cause of her unhappiness so I was fired.

She ended up with what seemed to be a great guy. Turned out he was a compulsive liar who every detail about his life was a fabrication. He stole money from my ex and was seeing someone else who he ended up having a kid with. When discovered and confronted he simply got in his car and drove away. My ex hasn't seen or heard from him in since that day.

My last GF was the most perfect match in the world for me. We saw eye to eye on 95% of everything... in the beginning. Over the course of 4 1/2 years she became a different person. NONE of the original goals and plans we had going into the relationship mattered to her by the time we got to the end.

They still do to me and I'm in the process of moving on with my life (and chasing those same dreams and goals).

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:23:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it.

I thought that my ex-wife and I saw eye to eye on the direction our life together was going to go. We had a long "heart to heart" before I proposed and a few of them after. Didn't make one bit of difference. Once she accepted my proposal NOTHING that I wanted mattered, it was all about "compromise" (ie: I had to "compromise" to accept what *she* wanted) and once child #2 was born she "just wasn't happy anymore". Ergo, *I* must be the cause of her unhappiness so I was fired.

She ended up with what seemed to be a great guy. Turned out he was a compulsive liar who every detail about his life was a fabrication. He stole money from my ex and was seeing someone else who he ended up having a kid with. When discovered and confronted he simply got in his car and drove away. My ex hasn't seen or heard from him in since that day.

My last GF was the most perfect match in the world for me. We saw eye to eye on 95% of everything... in the beginning. Over the course of 4 1/2 years she became a different person. NONE of the original goals and plans we had going into the relationship mattered to her by the time we got to the end.

They still do to me and I'm in the process of moving on with my life (and chasing those same dreams and goals).

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



That is about the long and the short of it.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:24:57 AM EDT
I think they show subtle hints of their true personalities. Men just don't recognize them till later on after the ring is on the finger.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:26:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it.

I thought that my ex-wife and I saw eye to eye on the direction our life together was going to go. We had a long "heart to heart" before I proposed and a few of them after. Didn't make one bit of difference. Once she accepted my proposal NOTHING that I wanted mattered, it was all about "compromise" (ie: I had to "compromise" to accept what *she* wanted) and once child #2 was born she "just wasn't happy anymore". Ergo, *I* must be the cause of her unhappiness so I was fired.

She ended up with what seemed to be a great guy. Turned out he was a compulsive liar who every detail about his life was a fabrication. He stole money from my ex and was seeing someone else who he ended up having a kid with. When discovered and confronted he simply got in his car and drove away. My ex hasn't seen or heard from him in since that day.

My last GF was the most perfect match in the world for me. We saw eye to eye on 95% of everything... in the beginning. Over the course of 4 1/2 years she became a different person. NONE of the original goals and plans we had going into the relationship mattered to her by the time we got to the end.

They still do to me and I'm in the process of moving on with my life (and chasing those same dreams and goals).

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



Yep. Or hide their true intent.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:29:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 9:29:58 AM EDT by thelastgunslinger]

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it.

I thought that my ex-wife and I saw eye to eye on the direction our life together was going to go. We had a long "heart to heart" before I proposed and a few of them after. Didn't make one bit of difference. Once she accepted my proposal NOTHING that I wanted mattered, it was all about "compromise" (ie: I had to "compromise" to accept what *she* wanted) and once child #2 was born she "just wasn't happy anymore". Ergo, *I* must be the cause of her unhappiness so I was fired.

She ended up with what seemed to be a great guy. Turned out he was a compulsive liar who every detail about his life was a fabrication. He stole money from my ex and was seeing someone else who he ended up having a kid with. When discovered and confronted he simply got in his car and drove away. My ex hasn't seen or heard from him in since that day.

My last GF was the most perfect match in the world for me. We saw eye to eye on 95% of everything... in the beginning. Over the course of 4 1/2 years she became a different person. NONE of the original goals and plans we had going into the relationship mattered to her by the time we got to the end.

They still do to me and I'm in the process of moving on with my life (and chasing those same dreams and goals).

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



Yep. Or hide their true intent.



And THAT is the truth right there.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:50:58 AM EDT
The first clue I had was when the home porn collellction disappeared. I figured it wasnt going well then.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:54:47 AM EDT
FWIW, some men change.


Many women never do.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:58:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 9:58:52 AM EDT by LWilde]

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it.

I thought that my ex-wife and I saw eye to eye on the direction our life together was going to go. We had a long "heart to heart" before I proposed and a few of them after. Didn't make one bit of difference. Once she accepted my proposal NOTHING that I wanted mattered, it was all about "compromise" (ie: I had to "compromise" to accept what *she* wanted) and once child #2 was born she "just wasn't happy anymore". Ergo, *I* must be the cause of her unhappiness so I was fired.

She ended up with what seemed to be a great guy. Turned out he was a compulsive liar who every detail about his life was a fabrication. He stole money from my ex and was seeing someone else who he ended up having a kid with. When discovered and confronted he simply got in his car and drove away. My ex hasn't seen or heard from him in since that day.

My last GF was the most perfect match in the world for me. We saw eye to eye on 95% of everything... in the beginning. Over the course of 4 1/2 years she became a different person. NONE of the original goals and plans we had going into the relationship mattered to her by the time we got to the end.

They still do to me and I'm in the process of moving on with my life (and chasing those same dreams and goals).

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



Yep. Or hide their true intent.



And THAT is the truth right there.


+1

This is what the angry wimmiz in loose shoes have done with all their feminazy bullshit!

MizLWilde------><------LWilde
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:00:59 AM EDT
They, women, are the ultimate con artists... By the time you figure it out, you are usually too deep in.
Men are great con artists for about 4wks-8wks... Then our true side comes out.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:06:13 AM EDT



women and clues.

two things [most] guys on the internet need to get.

at least, that's what i thought this thread was going to be about...

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:06:57 AM EDT
Imports are more straightforward than domestics.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:09:06 AM EDT
Tag. I'm just watching.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:39:48 AM EDT
Women and clues? Women don't have clues.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:56:43 AM EDT
ahem.....have any gentlemen here in the room never lied to a woman? Ever made your job out to be more than it really is? hinted that you make big bucks while you barely make ends meet? If so, please stand up and post.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 11:04:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sigarkar:
ahem.....have any gentlemen here in the room never lied to a woman? Ever made your job out to be more than it really is? hinted that you make big bucks while you barely make ends meet? If so, please stand up and post.



Lied, yes. The rest of it, no.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 11:08:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By sigarkar:
ahem.....have any gentlemen here in the room never lied to a woman? Ever made your job out to be more than it really is? hinted that you make big bucks while you barely make ends meet? If so, please stand up and post.



Lied, yes. The rest of it, no.



+1

(once told a woman that she didn't look fat in that dress)
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 2:50:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

<snip>

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.




Yup, Airwolf speaks the truth. I heard it a little differently:

Men get married thinking the woman won't change,
Women get married thinking the man will change,
and they're both wrong.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 2:53:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it........

IRepeat after me: Women change, men don't.


I disagree. Everyone changes. The issue is whether the changes force you further apart from your spouse over time.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:50:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sigarkar:
ahem.....have any gentlemen here in the room never lied to a woman? Ever made your job out to be more than it really is? hinted that you make big bucks while you barely make ends meet? If so, please stand up and post.



Me. Married a co-worker.
Never seriously dated anyone but her and the one before; and I downplayed my job on that one, too.

Larry
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:05:23 PM EDT
Let's face it; most guys, in the early phases of the relationship, are only thinking about one thing: PIE!



The rest of the stuff is either ignored (shame on the guy), or cleverly hidden away (shame on the girl), until it's too late.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:33:24 PM EDT
kind of sums it up from an old fraiser episode

"men don't use sex to get what we want. Sex IS what we want."

simple as that.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:43:09 PM EDT
Love is a mutual thing. Don't let yourself be blinded by lust or lies or deciet which is what a non-mutual relationship is. The woman has to put her fair share in. Any woman that expects you to worship her or bend over backwards for you is not worth the trouble. There are tell-tale signs of selfishness and when you see them, run.

It just gets worse over the years and your marraige day is the "top of the hill", it's just a downhill slope from there so if your relationship isn't perfect, run as soon as marraige is first brought up.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:45:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.
<snip>

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



That is by far the stupidist thing you have ever wrote.


Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:49:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AcidGambit:
They, women, are the ultimate con artists... By the time you figure it out, you are usually too deep in.
Men are great con artists for about 4wks-8wks... Then our true side comes out.




Way back when, while in Interrogator school, one of the instructors said something that has come back to haunt me and I have learned is the ultimate truth and the only thing men will ever truly know about women.


Women are the ultimate natural interrogator. They learn early on how to manipulate their parents and move from there to manipulating situations to their advantage. They are born into it. They never stop until the day they die. That is why women are the ultimate interrogators.

After 15 years of marriage and having absolutely no future to look forward to because she constantly manipulated our bank account into a negative balance, I am getting divorced. Period, end of story.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:50:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.
<snip>

Repeat after me: Women change, men don't.



That is by far the stupidist thing you have ever wrote.


Sgat1r5



And a good evening to you too.

Really, I *did* overstate a tad.

The quote from JavaMan is closer to what I was thinking.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:52:03 PM EDT

If you want some kind of a clue as to how a women is, look at her mother,
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:53:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:

And a good evening to you too.

Really, I *did* overstate a tad.

The quote from JavaMan is closer to what I was thinking.



Good evening!

And yes, Javaman's example is alot more accurate, I knew you were smarter than that.

I knew women changed, how can you not know this?

The key to marriage is having God involved in the marriage and that BOTH people view is as for life.

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:54:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:

And a good evening to you too.

Really, I *did* overstate a tad.

The quote from JavaMan is closer to what I was thinking.



Good evening!

And yes, Javaman's example is alot more accurate, I knew you were smarter than that.

I knew women changed, how can you not know this?

The key to marriage is having God involved in the marriage and that BOTH people view is as for life.

Sgat1r5


Yes. It is because a religious marraige will incorporate family values and morals. And that is why marraiges get so ugly nowadays. No sense of family or values. It's all about the money.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:01:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:12:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SP1Grrl:
Bah, the Mr. knew I was a bitch before he married me, and nothing's changed.

I'm just tagging this to watch the women bashing unfold.



You just called yourself a bitch, why would you even get upset at anything else said after this point about women when you would call yourself that?

Sgat1r54
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:16:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SP1Grrl:
Bah, the Mr. knew I was a bitch before he married me, and nothing's changed.

I'm just tagging this to watch the women bashing unfold.





Ah, just screw the women bashing. As a matter of fact, screw all of the bashing of both of the sexes. I'm just tagging this thread and replying to your post so that I can (hopefully) talk you into posting some of those game camera pics of you going to the bathroom at 3 o'clock in the morning. I can just imagine what it must have been like trying to get up (while half awake) just to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and then---------FLASH!!!!!!------You're on candid camera!
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:22:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 6:24:41 PM EDT by Hokie]

Originally Posted By ElevenO:


....lol....and here I was thinking this thread wouldn't entertain me....
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:26:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.




Thats all we need to remember.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:29:07 PM EDT
I dont trust women that keep lots of guys friends around and do things with them after we are going out for awhile.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 7:08:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PsyWarrior:

Originally Posted By AcidGambit:
They, women, are the ultimate con artists... By the time you figure it out, you are usually too deep in.
Men are great con artists for about 4wks-8wks... Then our true side comes out.




Way back when, while in Interrogator school, one of the instructors said something that has come back to haunt me and I have learned is the ultimate truth and the only thing men will ever truly know about women.


Women are the ultimate natural interrogator. They learn early on how to manipulate their parents and move from there to manipulating situations to their advantage. They are born into it. They never stop until the day they die. That is why women are the ultimate interrogators.

After 15 years of marriage and having absolutely no future to look forward to because she constantly manipulated our bank account into a negative balance, I am getting divorced. Period, end of story.



I use to tell my X, the FBI and ABI could not hold a candle to her. And the rest of what you said was pretty much how it was for me.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:44:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By walttx:
If you want some kind of a clue as to how a women is, look at her mother,



That hasn't been the case for me. My wife is the exact opposite of her mother. which is good.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 8:59:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 9:00:45 PM EDT by Frankenpez]

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Women change. Men don't.

That's my take on it........

IRepeat after me: Women change, men don't.


I disagree. Everyone changes. The issue is whether the changes force you further apart from your spouse over time.



+1
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:03:19 PM EDT
"I think of a man, then I take away reason, and accountability"


Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:15:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 9:16:42 PM EDT by eye_spy]
he
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:24:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eye_spy:
Getting popcorn, waiting for the ladies of ARFCOM to chime in and go ballistic!



OK women, here's your chance. Guys apparently feel fycked over by women who lie and cheat. What do you have to say? Are men the same way?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:41:46 PM EDT
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

Roy
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:48:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sigarkar:

Originally Posted By eye_spy:
Getting popcorn, waiting for the ladies of ARFCOM to chime in and go ballistic!



OK women, here's your chance. Guys apparently feel fycked over by women who lie and cheat. What do you have to say? Are men the same way?



Not Ballistic, men are entertaining, so victimized, poor guys
Really? Guys feel f*cked over by women who lie and cheat? No way!!
Heres another question, do you men think women feel "fycked" over by men who lie and cheat?
I never knew there were so many perfectly sweet guys getting torn apart by evil womenz till I started reading here.

Duh. It sucks to be a decent person and get lumped with the assholes of the world whether you are male or female. After all the crap I have been through, I am still dumb enough to hope someday to find a REAL man!! By the way, what is that?

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:00:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By syntax:

Originally Posted By sigarkar:

Originally Posted By eye_spy:
Getting popcorn, waiting for the ladies of ARFCOM to chime in and go ballistic!



OK women, here's your chance. Guys apparently feel fycked over by women who lie and cheat. What do you have to say? Are men the same way?



Not Ballistic, men are entertaining, so victimized, poor guys
Really? Guys feel f*cked over by women who lie and cheat? No way!!
Heres another question, do you men think women feel "fycked" over by men who lie and cheat?
I never knew there were so many perfectly sweet guys getting torn apart by evil womenz till I started reading here.

Duh. It sucks to be a decent person and get lumped with the assholes of the world whether you are male or female. After all the crap I have been through, I am still dumb enough to hope someday to find a REAL man!! By the way, what is that?




/Austin Powers/ What's a real man? Baby, you're looking at him. /Austin Powers/



Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:02:43 PM EDT
Not even gonna read all this bullshit. Some of you guys need to look in the mirror. If every woman you know has changed,been a bitch, etc. it might just be you. Glass houses I say.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:05:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The key to marriage is having God involved in the marriage and that BOTH people view is as for life.

Sgat1r5



You forgot the Screaming Monkey Sex.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:06:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Glass houses I say.




That's why I dress in the basement
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:11:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sigarkar:

Originally Posted By syntax:

Originally Posted By sigarkar:

Originally Posted By eye_spy:
Getting popcorn, waiting for the ladies of ARFCOM to chime in and go ballistic!



OK women, here's your chance. Guys apparently feel fycked over by women who lie and cheat. What do you have to say? Are men the same way?



Not Ballistic, men are entertaining, so victimized, poor guys
Really? Guys feel f*cked over by women who lie and cheat? No way!!
Heres another question, do you men think women feel "fycked" over by men who lie and cheat?
I never knew there were so many perfectly sweet guys getting torn apart by evil womenz till I started reading here.

Duh. It sucks to be a decent person and get lumped with the assholes of the world whether you are male or female. After all the crap I have been through, I am still dumb enough to hope someday to find a REAL man!! By the way, what is that?




/Austin Powers/ What's a real man? Baby, you're looking at him. /Austin Powers/



If that is a clue, I shall remain clueless, thank you
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